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curlie467
3,503 posts
70 months
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norfolkscooby said: No, but he won't be able to keep with those 2 all season. I think he can, remember that this is the first season in the top class that he has started uninjured! If he can stay that way he can easily fight with those two. A lot of people seem to have overlooked Spies so far this year after just one crappy race, he will be up there too.
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sprinter1050
10,124 posts
96 months
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MrKipling43
5,294 posts
85 months
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Have the Dukes got the new motor for Jerez? Not the 60 degree V, but the thinner casing?
Could be a factor? At least in the sense that they'll be less embarrassing rather than back at the sharp end!
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Fleegle
10,634 posts
45 months
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I shall miss visiting Jerez this year
Had a good crack the last couple of years.
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y2blade
46,290 posts
84 months
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MrKipling43 said: Have the Dukes got the new motor for Jerez? Not the 60 degree V, but the thinner casing?
Could be a factor? At least in the sense that they'll be less embarrassing rather than back at the sharp end! Let's hope so.
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sprinter1050
10,124 posts
96 months
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MrKipling43 said: Have the Dukes got the new motor for Jerez? Not the 60 degree V, but the thinner casing?
Could be a factor? At least in the sense that they'll be less embarrassing rather than back at the sharp end! Are you sure about the 60 deg thing? I thought 70 was favourite if not 75 and I can't see how a thinner casing would help them.
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MrKipling43
5,294 posts
85 months
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sprinter1050 said: Are you sure about the 60 deg thing? I thought 70 was favourite if not 75 and I can't see how a thinner casing would help them. Fairly sure it's 60, but I might be wrong. Thinner casing will reduce weight significantly since, IIRC, they're still using the motor that was used as a stressed part of the old monocoque chassis design - now they've moved to a twin spar (yawn) the heavier engine means pretty awful mass centralisation. I think they were working on a lighter motor to tide them over until they build a tight-v V4.
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Yazza54
9,439 posts
50 months
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MrKipling43 said: sprinter1050 said: Are you sure about the 60 deg thing? I thought 70 was favourite if not 75 and I can't see how a thinner casing would help them. Fairly sure it's 60, but I might be wrong. Thinner casing will reduce weight significantly since, IIRC, they're still using the motor that was used as a stressed part of the old monocoque chassis design - now they've moved to a twin spar (yawn) the heavier engine means pretty awful mass centralisation. I think they were working on a lighter motor to tide them over until they build a tight-v V4. Are they actually building a new narrow v engine or is this all speculation so far? Likewise where did you hear about the thin casing jobbie? Makes sense though since its no longer a stressed member. They obviously have a bit of a mishmash of spec at the moment. Wouldn't be surprised if they began to improve as the months go by.
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sprinter1050
10,124 posts
96 months
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It all sounds like sticking plaster solutions to me. I guess the factory has been showing reluctance all along to accept the flaws of the Ducati & avoided a complete re-write from the tyres up. Instead they seem to be conceding bit by bit instead of working on the whole item. Steel trellis to CF chassis Alloy swingarm to CF Turn in/front end probs still exist Rossi & Burgess press for twin spar alloy frame from the CF item 90 degree L-shape V4 motor now getting criticised so talk about 75deg V Then 70 deg with/without thinner casings Now 60deg Hmm- make up your own minds. Anybody fancying offering them a new design ? 
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graphene
877 posts
24 months
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CS, JL, DP all retire through either breakdowns or crashes.
Spies takes win after titanic battle with Cal.
Hayden or Bradl take last spot on the podium.
Or, nothing as interesting will happen, and the same top three, and next top three, will cross the line in a new order.
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996 sps
Original Poster
5,641 posts
85 months
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sprinter1050 said: Could spice things up nicely, Edwards for a first win in Moto GP on a CTR bike.
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FourWheelDrift
56,447 posts
153 months
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Rain predicted for Sunday = CRT surprises
I think Randy will be ahead of a Ducati or two, dry or wet.
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Ray Luxury-Yacht
6,374 posts
85 months
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sprinter1050 said: If it's wet - Spies and possibly Crutchlow?
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egor110
2,027 posts
72 months
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Busa mav said: I think its possible , the Rossi problem is giving him new confidence . So where are your predictions ? or are you waiting until Sunday  Ok here we go: 1- pedrobot 2- stoner 3- lorenzo 4- spies 5- dovi 6- hayden
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egor110
2,027 posts
72 months
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said: If it's wet - Spies and possibly Crutchlow? Why not stoner? If i think back to june 2011 it was wet at silverstone and he won that by 15 seconds.
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Ray Luxury-Yacht
6,374 posts
85 months
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egor110 said: Busa mav said: I think its possible , the Rossi problem is giving him new confidence . So where are your predictions ? or are you waiting until Sunday Ok here we go: 1- pedrobot 2- stoner 3- lorenzo 4- spies 5- dovi 6- hayden Not bad, but I reckon more like: 1- stoner 2- lorenzo 3- spies 4- crutchlow 5- dovi 6- rossi I think pedrobot will crash or fade away towards the end. But I'll have a tenner on him getting the holeshot and leading for about 8 to 10 laps.
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egor110
2,027 posts
72 months
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said: Not bad, but I reckon more like:
1- stoner
2- lorenzo
3- spies
4- crutchlow
5- dovi
6- rossi
I think pedrobot will crash or fade away towards the end. But I'll have a tenner on him getting the holeshot and leading for about 8 to 10 laps. To be honest i have no reason for not including cal, and would love rossi to put on a good show (or just give up and come to brit superbikes  ) i wonder if bautista can get in the top 6 this time?
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Ray Luxury-Yacht
6,374 posts
85 months
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egor110 said: Ray Luxury-Yacht said: Not bad, but I reckon more like:
1- stoner
2- lorenzo
3- spies
4- crutchlow
5- dovi
6- rossi
I think pedrobot will crash or fade away towards the end. But I'll have a tenner on him getting the holeshot and leading for about 8 to 10 laps. To be honest i have no reason for not including cal, and would love rossi to put on a good show (or just give up and come to brit superbikes ) i wonder if bautista can get in the top 6 this time? Dunno - I reckon Alvaro isn't a natural Alien - consistent-ish etc., but hasn't shown what I would call flashes of brilliance or win / bin mentality, like - I hate to say it  poor Marco...
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Turn7
9,341 posts
90 months
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No Tobe for Jerez, hes doing BTCC. Still Got Jules & Spalders tho
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Ray Luxury-Yacht
6,374 posts
85 months
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Turn7 said: No Tobe for Jerez, hes doing BTCC. Still Got Jules & Spalders tho Ah yeah - I watched BTCC from Brands the other week, and was surprised to hear Tobe's dulcet tones commentating. Have to say, fair play to him - he was as good as he is with the bikes - has obviously swatted up on his cars and drivers. Do we know why he's splitting his time between cars and bikes? For me, Moto GP IS Tobe and Jules - it's not the same without them both! Spalders is pretty good - but I really miss Randy - that was the 'dream team' for me! Or maybe I'm just getting old and nostalgic
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