Stoner retires

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krissstephen

170 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I can see crutchlow getting a factory ride next year whether it's on a Yamaha or Honda.

Spies to Honda, crutchlow to Yamaha.

twizellb

2,774 posts

213 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Fair play to him,he could have won another 2 or 3 titles.
It will make the musical chairs very,very interesting though.scratchchin

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Bluequay said:
Fleegle said:
Bluequay said:
Fair play to him, I think he's already proved that he's been the best rider over the last 6 years or so.
The stats show its not that obvious in terms of championships
What do the stats say about what a succession of other world class riders have been able to achieve on a Ducati. Apart from one wet dry victory for caparossi it's the square root of fk all!

Caparossi couldn't ride it, melandri couldn't ride it, Rossi can't ride it, Hayden can barely ride it. Stoner something like 23 wins from 61 races on it. 35 wins from the last 80 races in total. The best of the last 6 years no question.
That's not quite what you said though.

What you're saying is he was the only one that could tame the Ducati. It's not like he won 6 championships though, in fact in the 6 years you are quoting, he won 2, the same number as Rossi, and 1 more than Lorenzo and Hayden

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Fleegle said:
Bluequay said:
Fleegle said:
Bluequay said:
Fair play to him, I think he's already proved that he's been the best rider over the last 6 years or so.
The stats show its not that obvious in terms of championships
What do the stats say about what a succession of other world class riders have been able to achieve on a Ducati. Apart from one wet dry victory for caparossi it's the square root of fk all!

Caparossi couldn't ride it, melandri couldn't ride it, Rossi can't ride it, Hayden can barely ride it. Stoner something like 23 wins from 61 races on it. 35 wins from the last 80 races in total. The best of the last 6 years no question.
That's not quite what you said though.N

What you're saying is he was the only one that could tame the Ducati. It's not like he won 6 championships though, in fact in the 6 years you are quoting, he won 2, the same number as Rossi, and 1 more than Lorenzo and Hayden
What I said was he's been the best rider, meaning from the start of the 800 era through now, he's won 2 out of the 5 titles, and he missed a large part of the 2009 season through illness, he's also won the most races. Who do you think has been better? Did anybody else win an 800cc race on more than one make of bike? Let alone a championship?

Biker's Nemesis

38,733 posts

209 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I'm a bit shocked but fair play too the lad. I hope he enjoys his family life after all isn't that what life is all about.

I hope he wins the championship this year and leaves the sport as champion.

paranha

633 posts

243 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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So from a 12year old on dirt tracks in AUS--to coming to UK and living with parents in a M-home while learning his trade he progresses to MGP with various success, and Ducati World champ-the ONLY rider who tamed the machine to be World Champ-
Signed by Honda to show again how expert he IS!!!--Great family and now daughter to enjoy with his deserved wealth---and YOU want to do him Down, cos he KNOWS WHEN to retire--Good Luck Casey---in whatever you choose--Enjoy you family Real Time--

A Lorenzo Addict!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Bluequay said:
Fleegle said:
Bluequay said:
Fleegle said:
Bluequay said:
Fair play to him, I think he's already proved that he's been the best rider over the last 6 years or so.
The stats show its not that obvious in terms of championships
What do the stats say about what a succession of other world class riders have been able to achieve on a Ducati. Apart from one wet dry victory for caparossi it's the square root of fk all!

Caparossi couldn't ride it, melandri couldn't ride it, Rossi can't ride it, Hayden can barely ride it. Stoner something like 23 wins from 61 races on it. 35 wins from the last 80 races in total. The best of the last 6 years no question.
That's not quite what you said though.N

What you're saying is he was the only one that could tame the Ducati. It's not like he won 6 championships though, in fact in the 6 years you are quoting, he won 2, the same number as Rossi, and 1 more than Lorenzo and Hayden
What I said was he's been the best rider, meaning from the start of the 800 era through now, he's won 2 out of the 5 titles, and he missed a large part of the 2009 season through illness, he's also won the most races. Who do you think has been better? Did anybody else win an 800cc race on more than one make of bike? Let alone a championship?
I don't deny he is good, but the best rider acolade goes to the rider that has won the most championships, and in the period you set out it isn't that clear cut.

Don't worry, he'll be back to add to his tally of titles

-Pete-

2,896 posts

177 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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"There are a lot of things that have disappointed me, and also a lot of things I have loved about this sport, but unfortunately the balance has gone in the wrong direction."

Anyone care to speculate what these things were? Although not a fan I admire his ability, and I thought he had a pretty good career, maybe apart from the sceptical media coverage when he had the food intolerance problem?

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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You mean 'bitty' ?

vonhosen

40,271 posts

218 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Good luck to the fella.
He's a bit dry for my liking, but no denying he is a class act.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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If he's not enjoying it then fair play to him. It's a shame for us though, as he'll always be the "what if" factor in any discussion about great riders & champions.

I think the Simoncelli incident and having a new baby is what's pushing this decision. Does he want a child being brought up as an orphan (worst case) or with a Dad who's a stranger, when he can be there all the time.

How many of us would have quit work if we could financially when kids were involved?

Remember to us his job is a dream job, to him it's a pay cheque and he doesn't need any more of them.

Edited by LoonR1 on Thursday 17th May 19:22

RemaL

24,973 posts

235 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Bloody hell. always thought how would he ride now he has a kid.

or was it the wife telling him what to do?

Rubin215

3,993 posts

157 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Multi-millionaire + beautiful wife + small child = Early retirement.

No-brainer really.

-Pete-

2,896 posts

177 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Fleegle said:
You mean 'bitty' ?
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Walter Sobchak

5,723 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Wow, that's young to retire, lucky him!!, I'm sure he will be missed in the sport but he's doing what makes him happy so fair play to him.

John D.

17,924 posts

210 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I'm surprised by this. Reckon he'll be back after a couple of years.

Conian

8,030 posts

202 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I've not been a Stoner fan since he's been in motogp, but right now I respect the guy.
I've said for ages that he's not enjoying it and I respect him for coming on out and saying it.
I hope he regains his love for it and comes back some day, n who knows I may even cheer him on.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

187 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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-Pete- said:
"There are a lot of things that have disappointed me, and also a lot of things I have loved about this sport, but unfortunately the balance has gone in the wrong direction."

Anyone care to speculate what these things were? Although not a fan I admire his ability, and I thought he had a pretty good career, maybe apart from the sceptical media coverage when he had the food intolerance problem?
This explains it better....

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99662

Rat_Fink_67

2,309 posts

207 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I can't 'til Valencia is out the way and he spits out what all these things are that have changed so much and disappointed him, I'm sure he'll pull no punches!

amare32

2,417 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Very shocked to hear that he is retiring. With a daughter now, I'm sure the deaths of Simoncelli and Tomizawa amongst others does put things in perspective and he wants to be around to see her grow up.