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Yazza54
Original Poster
9,796 posts
51 months
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Since I've got my mojo back a little and enjoying riding much more, was just wondering how safe it is getting close to the edge of the tyre... Behold the chicken strips  Is it ok to ride on the edge of the tyre or are they not designed run there? As I can see the direction arrows an Michelin man there. Probably daft questions but I don't wanna go off the edge of the tyre/try to get rid of the strips and there be no grip there! It'd also be nice to get my knee down, but considering I'm not far from the edge of the tyres I always feel miles away. Still learning... Loving biking again anyway. 
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MJDM
594 posts
49 months
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Down to the edge is all good I reckon!
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btdk5
1,187 posts
60 months
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Your knee will be on the floor long before you ride off the edge.
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Yazza54
Original Poster
9,796 posts
51 months
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Btw the rear is a Michelin pilot road, the old style not a 2 compound. Doesn't half feel a hard compound when I press it but grip feels ok.
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GTIR
19,231 posts
136 months
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You've got a way to go.  It may not look much but that chicken gap equates to quite an lean angle! Remember that the tyre is made of rubber which is bendy so you'll not actually riding on a teeny part of the tyre per se as you look at it. It does flatten out somewhat. I find that my right hand (sitting on bike) has far less chicken on it then the left, in fact it has no chicken and about 2mm on the left.
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Fleegle
10,799 posts
46 months
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pozi
813 posts
57 months
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If you still have a Michelin man on display then you need to try harder.
At least behead the little git!!
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Chilli
16,141 posts
106 months
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Keep at it....when the man has gone completely, then you're putting in the required effort!
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Rubin215
1,449 posts
26 months
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You ride like a big-girls-blouse and are obviously unsuited to motorcycles.
I suggest you donate your bike to me before you hurt yourself...
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shanes
819 posts
25 months
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get it over to the edge 
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hostyle
1,034 posts
86 months
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That's cheating! You haven't used the middle part! 
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Yazza54
Original Poster
9,796 posts
51 months
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shanes said: get it over to the edge Let's just bear in mind that my riding consists of riding to work an weekend blats, not ragging it round sepang every week 
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Mike600F
684 posts
26 months
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Tried to get rid of mine on the track on Saturday, got bout 2mm left both sides, just don't have the bottle to lean it further. Yet. . .
Strange thing was I was happy getting on the throttle (progressively) whilst lent over, so there was plenty more grip. Just have a mental block with leaning further; my brain just keeps telling me they'll let go. . .
I felt the same way when my cs were an inch though, so it's just a confidence thing: they'll get smaller with time as you get more comfortable with leaning it over.
Note - it doesn't half feel quick when your head is low whilst trying to 'kiss the mirror' and get your knee down on the track. How stoner gets his head 3 inches from the tarmac is mind boggling. . . .
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LoonR1
12,756 posts
47 months
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Knee down on the road? Waste of time IMO.
Chicken strips? Not much of a sign on roads either. Different styles of riding have different lean angles.
Next time we're out I'll show you the state of my track tyres compared to the road tyres.
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sc0tt
7,715 posts
71 months
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LoonR1 said: Knee down on the road? Waste of time IMO.
Ill +1 that. Still buying bits for my bike 
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mr wiki
373 posts
76 months
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I have only got a few mm of stip on the RH side of my tyre (about where the serial number is in the top pic) yet far far way from kneew down? - I do think the edge of the tyre will be gone before I get my knee down?
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Yazza54
Original Poster
9,796 posts
51 months
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LoonR1 said: Knee down on the road? Waste of time IMO.
Chicken strips? Not much of a sign on roads either. Different styles of riding five different lean angles.
Next time we're out I'll show you the state of my track tyres compared to the road tyres. I don't disagree, it'd just be nice to do. I'll probably save that till I get on a trackday
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nomski
12 posts
14 months
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It's weird how as soon as you start riding you want to completely max out your tyres and get your elbow down like Stoner. I'm the exactly the same! Who starts playing tennis and is disappointed if they don't serve at 130mph in the first few months? I agree on the knee down road thing, I've only got my knee down in normal (if a little spirited) road conditions a handful of times and it probably not exactly best practice as on most roads you need to be really motoring to lean that far over. You can of course find a quiet roundabout and force the issue with a few laps to build confidence, just build speed slowly and you'll be scratching in no time! The fear of lean is due to 1000's of years of evolution as bipeds. When we run the most we can lean is around 20 degrees before our feet start to suffer from loss of traction, you just need to unlearn a few thousand years of ancestral practice and you'll be all good. The thing I struggle with most is the question of where does the grip end? I've had a few little slides on corner exits and some front end chatter round Charlies at Cadwell Park due to my forks having a tendency to bottom out high speeds and lean angles  but I still cant get a reliable idea of when it switches from amazing cornering to face in tyre wall. @mrwiki you could lean almost as far as you like without getting your knee down, it's more a body position thing than anything, if your body position is "correct" then you can get your knee down a fair way from the edge of the tyre. You will find though that as your body position improves you can carry a ton more speed through a corner for the same amount of lean angle.
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Jazoli
3,426 posts
120 months
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Yazza54 said: I don't disagree, it'd just be nice to do. I'll probably save that till I get on a trackday I thought you'd already done it? Followed by arse/elbow head etc
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Yazza54
Original Poster
9,796 posts
51 months
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Jazoli said: Yazza54 said: I don't disagree, it'd just be nice to do. I'll probably save that till I get on a trackday I thought you'd already done it? Followed by arse/elbow head etc Well there is that
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