2012 Superbike group test
Discussion
spareparts said:
Sadly, consistent with increasing numbers of reports: the Panigale just isn't cutting it.
Why have ducati released a bike with a map that gives such a s
te torque curve. That is absolutely atrocious for such a (relatively) expensive bike.It will make it *feel* like it has a massive top end rush, but that's just a symptom of it getting back on track again, rather than *real* power. Interesting to see who whether that's as a result of fuelling alone or whether the ignition curve is also crap.
StuB said:
Am I missing something or is that just some graphs I can see?
Means nothing really does it or than for marketing types in sharp suits.
I agree,they are all superbly capable bikes.Means nothing really does it or than for marketing types in sharp suits.
Have a test ride and pick the one that suits you best,cant see what difference
there is between 160 and 170hp for riding on the road except for bragging rights in the pub
Shame ther isnt an 1198 torque in their to compare for you, Ducati have lost the fantastic grunt that motor had in their chase for peak HP to match the fours.
The 1198 has the best motor, for the road, than any other bike ive ridden, the IL4s just dont interest me at all now,far too rev happy.
The 1198 has the best motor, for the road, than any other bike ive ridden, the IL4s just dont interest me at all now,far too rev happy.
podman said:
Shame ther isnt an 1198 torque in their to compare for you, Ducati have lost the fantastic grunt that motor had in their chase for peak HP to match the fours.
The 1198 has the best motor, for the road, than any other bike ive ridden,
The 1198 has the best motor, for the road, than any other bike ive ridden,
100ftlbs torque king on the road, plus 189hp (crank) = win win. Brilliant motor for the road with so much tractability.bass gt3 said:
Try the new '12 Blade. Sublime motor.
Only tried the '10 Blade and that was brilliant too. But with the Blade, no one aspect ever stands out- the whole package feels so dense and perfectly matched between every component. Must try out the '12 Blade sometime...
spareparts said:
Only tried the '10 Blade and that was brilliant too. But with the Blade, no one aspect ever stands out- the whole package feels so dense and perfectly matched between every component. Must try out the '12 Blade sometime...
i had an 09 blade prior to mt RSV4 and whilst it didn't excell at any one thing, it was a solid 8.5-9 in every dept. The new one is the same but better, so a solid 9 across the board. So easy to ride but poke it and it goes. very tractable motor, no steps, powerbands etc, very like the crossplane crank R1 in that it's turbine like, just relentless go. A couple of friends have them now and they are superb machines, and for the money, very hard to beeat i think.
Try one.
And for the record, i am a Ducati fan boy!! Got an 1198 in a 996 that weighs 168 kgs fully fueled and all fluids. Now that really goes!!!!
podman said:
The 1198 has the best motor, for the road, than any other bike ive ridden, the IL4s just dont interest me at all now,far too rev happy.
I agree, don't think I'll bother with IL4s again, I much prefer V-Twin power delivery!The 1198 has relentless drive almost from tick over!
bass gt3 said:
i had an 09 blade prior to mt RSV4 and whilst it didn't excell at any one thing, it was a solid 8.5-9 in every dept. The new one is the same but better, so a solid 9 across the board. So easy to ride but poke it and it goes. very tractable motor, no steps, powerbands etc, very like the crossplane crank R1 in that it's turbine like, just relentless go.
A couple of friends have them now and they are superb machines, and for the money, very hard to beeat i think.
Try one.
And for the record, i am a Ducati fan boy!! Got an 1198 in a 996 that weighs 168 kgs fully fueled and all fluids. Now that really goes!!!!
Pics / vids please, that sounds fA couple of friends have them now and they are superb machines, and for the money, very hard to beeat i think.
Try one.
And for the record, i am a Ducati fan boy!! Got an 1198 in a 996 that weighs 168 kgs fully fueled and all fluids. Now that really goes!!!!
g cool 
bass gt3 said:
spareparts said:
Only tried the '10 Blade and that was brilliant too. But with the Blade, no one aspect ever stands out- the whole package feels so dense and perfectly matched between every component. Must try out the '12 Blade sometime...
i had an 09 blade prior to mt RSV4 and whilst it didn't excell at any one thing, it was a solid 8.5-9 in every dept. The new one is the same but better, so a solid 9 across the board. So easy to ride but poke it and it goes. very tractable motor, no steps, powerbands etc, very like the crossplane crank R1 in that it's turbine like, just relentless go. A couple of friends have them now and they are superb machines, and for the money, very hard to beeat i think.
Try one.
And for the record, i am a Ducati fan boy!! Got an 1198 in a 996 that weighs 168 kgs fully fueled and all fluids. Now that really goes!!!!
You hit the nail on the head about the Blade... It has a turbine motor. Almost electric in feel it is so smooth and linear. For track use it must be brilliant.
But I like my power with a bit of 1198 rough
Fleegle said:
All those stats are irrelevant to the typical Honda rider that rides like a fanny
...and to all the Ducati riders that bang on about torque and have rushed out to buy a Panigale that makes it's power like a weak IL4 thou 
Kind of confirms my suspicion that a good proportion of Duke riders buy the latest Duke because it's the latest Duke, rather than because of torque/v-twin power curve.I'm not saying it's a worse bike than the 1198 as I like IL4 power deliveries. Just saying - that's all.
Reading these graphs and scores, along with VB's opinions on a day spent with an RC8R, I think it needs to go back on my test ride list. It really looks like the pinnacle of V-twin-ness these days.
3doorPete said:
Fleegle said:
All those stats are irrelevant to the typical Honda rider that rides like a fanny
...and to all the Ducati riders that bang on about torque and have rushed out to buy a Panigale that makes it's power like a weak IL4 thou Kind of confirms my suspicion that a good proportion of Duke riders buy the latest Duke because it's the latest Duke, rather than because of torque/v-twin power curve.I'm not saying it's a worse bike than the 1198 as I like IL4 power deliveries. Just saying - that's all.
Reading these graphs and scores, along with VB's opinions on a day spent with an RC8R, I think it needs to go back on my test ride list. It really looks like the pinnacle of V-twin-ness these days.
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