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LiamB

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Well, first big problem with my bike has just hit me.

The Kickstart will not spark (Hopefully it is just a spark plug or HT Lead)

And the clutch cable has snapped (I think)

Does anyone here know any decent mobile mechanic's on the London area as I can't get out any other way..


Cheers.

LordFlathead

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LiamB said:
Well, first big problem with my bike has just hit me.

The Kickstart will not spark (Hopefully it is just a spark plug or HT Lead)

And the clutch cable has snapped (I think)

Does anyone here know any decent mobile mechanic's on the London area as I can't get out any other way..


Cheers.
Lost me there Liam. The kickstart will not spark? What do you mean? Does the engine turn over on the kickstart, and if you have a plug in it there is no spark?

What are the symptoms of the clutch - can you pull it in and does it feel the same? Or are you saying that the two are somehow connected?

Oh and whats the bike? smile

LiamB

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LordFlathead said:
Lost me there Liam. The kickstart will not spark? What do you mean? Does the engine turn over on the kickstart, and if you have a plug in it there is no spark?

What are the symptoms of the clutch - can you pull it in and does it feel the same? Or are you saying that the two are somehow connected?

Oh and whats the bike? smile
Sorry, just pissed off atm so I rush typed it.

Basically, when I kick it, there is no sound, it won't spark the engine at all so, it won't start.

And the clutch, I can pull all the way in, and it won't disengage.


Bike is a Husqvarna CH Racing 50.

AceOfHearts

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LiamB said:
Sorry, just pissed off atm so I rush typed it.

Basically, when I kick it, there is no sound, it won't spark the engine at all so, it won't start.

And the clutch, I can pull all the way in, and it won't disengage.


Bike is a Husqvarna CH Racing 50.
Have you pulled the plug and actually checked the spark? Does the kick start turn the engine over?

Have a look at the end of the clutch lever where the cable goes in, and follow the cable all the way to the engine, is the cable still attached at both ends. If the cable is snapped when you pull the lever in the arm on the engine will not move. The cable would be easy to replace if this is the problem and you fancy doing it youself?


LiamB

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AceOfHearts said:
Have you pulled the plug and actually checked the spark? Does the kick start turn the engine over?

Have a look at the end of the clutch lever where the cable goes in, and follow the cable all the way to the engine, is the cable still attached at both ends. If the cable is snapped when you pull the lever in the arm on the engine will not move. The cable would be easy to replace if this is the problem and you fancy doing it youself?
No, having trouble removing the plug at the moment, being a bugger to get off.

And the arm doesn't move on the engine, so I really hope a snapped cable is the case as they are only £17. Quite fancy trying to replace it myself as well.
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AceOfHearts

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No, having trouble removing the plug at the moment, being a bugger to get off.

And the arm doesn't move on the engine, so I really hope a snapped cable is the case as they are only £17. Quite fancy trying to replace it myself as well.
If the clutch lever is pulling the end of the cable but the engine arm isnt moving then it will be a broken cable. If you are new to bike mechanics it will be a good job to start on (will not take very long and not a lot to get wrong smile)

LiamB

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AceOfHearts said:
If the clutch lever is pulling the end of the cable but the engine arm isnt moving then it will be a broken cable. If you are new to bike mechanics it will be a good job to start on (will not take very long and not a lot to get wrong smile)
Great, will get one ordered.
Sort of new to mechanics. I fiddle with car engines a bit, but it's only an A-Series 998 engine, so not much.

Cheers mate, now I have to try and diagnose the problem with the kickstart.

zippo

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LiamB said:
Cheers mate, now I have to try and diagnose the problem with the kickstart.
You haven't by accident hit the kill switch have you?

LiamB

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zippo said:
You haven't by accident hit the kill switch have you?
Nope, I have a kill button haha. Unless that is stuck in.

zippo

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Might be worth checking

LiamB

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Kill button is not stuck.
Still can't get the spark plug off..

mrdelmonti

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Can you get the HT lead to arc to the engine casing or a screwdriver?

Yazza54

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No pesky coil wires come loose, no splits in the ht lead? Is the plug solid in the head?? If so probably been in there a while!

Clutch just sounds like knackered cable.

LiamB

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Yazza54 said:
No pesky coil wires come loose, no splits in the ht lead? Is the plug solid in the head?? If so probably been in there a while!

Clutch just sounds like knackered cable.
Will check all this tomorrow, when it's light.

But the Plug is well and truly stuck there.

Yazza54

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LiamB said:
Yazza54 said:
No pesky coil wires come loose, no splits in the ht lead? Is the plug solid in the head?? If so probably been in there a while!

Clutch just sounds like knackered cable.
Will check all this tomorrow, when it's light.

But the Plug is well and truly stuck there.
Was it difficult to take the plug cap off?

If you have a spare plug stick it in the cap and rest the plug against the head or something metallic and kick it or get someone to kick it and look for a spark.


If you weren't a gazillion miles away I'd pop round, someone close by on here may offer though but it'll be something or nothing.

Once you've verified there is actually no spark we can go from there... any chance it's flooded?

Just to clarify, you said 'problem with kickstart'? If it spins over the kickstart is fine, thats the only purpose it serves and is not linked in any way to the ignition.

Edited by Yazza54 on Wednesday 25th July 23:06

LiamB

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Was it difficult to take the plug cap off?

If you have a spare plug stick it in the cap and rest the plug against the head or something metallic and kick it or get someone to kick it and look for a spark.
No, the plug cap came off with ease.

Will look around for a plug tomorrow.

LiamB

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I think, I may be a speshal child.


Surely, if the clutch is slightly stuck in, the kickstart won't engage will it?

Been up thinking about it and this just hit me. The clutch feels slightly disengaged if I remember. Like it was stuck on biting point.

As, when it did start (Before everything went wrong) the bike felt like it was pulling away before I even let the clutch out.


PLEASE LET IT BE THIS!


Edit: Then again, there seems to be compression in the kick start when it is a really slow kick.. but when a normal kick, no compression at all.

Edited by LiamB on Thursday 26th July 02:50

Yazza54

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LiamB said:
I think, I may be a speshal child.


Surely, if the clutch is slightly stuck in, the kickstart won't engage will it?

Been up thinking about it and this just hit me. The clutch feels slightly disengaged if I remember. Like it was stuck on biting point.

As, when it did start (Before everything went wrong) the bike felt like it was pulling away before I even let the clutch out.


PLEASE LET IT BE THIS!


Edit: Then again, there seems to be compression in the kick start when it is a really slow kick.. but when a normal kick, no compression at all.

Edited by LiamB on Thursday 26th July 02:50
Kickstart or starter motor usually drives a ring gear on the clutch basket so shouldn't make a difference of the clutch is engaged or disengaged. There may be some engines that work slightly different, but I thought your clutch was completely engaged anyway as the arm wasnt moving?


Has it been running rough at all recently? Hope you haven't got a hole the piston!

Edited by Yazza54 on Thursday 26th July 07:08

LiamB

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Yazza54 said:
Kickstart or starter motor usually drives a ring gear on the clutch basket so shouldn't make a difference of the clutch is engaged or disengaged. There may be some engines that work slightly different, but I thought your clutch was completely engaged anyway as the arm wasnt moving?


Has it been running rough at all recently? Hope you haven't got a hole the piston!

Edited by Yazza54 on Thursday 26th July 07:08
My Kickstart doesn't work when the clutch is pulled in. And yes, the arm does not move, but the clutch may still be slightly disengaged.

Yazza54

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LiamB said:
Yazza54 said:
Kickstart or starter motor usually drives a ring gear on the clutch basket so shouldn't make a difference of the clutch is engaged or disengaged. There may be some engines that work slightly different, but I thought your clutch was completely engaged anyway as the arm wasnt moving?


Has it been running rough at all recently? Hope you haven't got a hole the piston!

Edited by Yazza54 on Thursday 26th July 07:08
My Kickstart doesn't work when the clutch is pulled in. And yes, the arm does not move, but the clutch may still be slightly disengaged.
It shouldn't be!
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