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Driller
Original Poster
5,238 posts
147 months
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You never see this in the spec whereas it's a staple for comparing sports cars. Just wondering why.
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sprinter1050
10,133 posts
96 months
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It's too small a number to be recordable 
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Rat_Fink_67
1,285 posts
75 months
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0-60 are massively inconsistent where bikes are concerned, a lot of it is down to the rider, the surface, tyres etc etc. You can see group tests in magazines where there'll be a 600cc machine half a second quicker to 60 than a big thou' superbike. All superbikes are capable of around 3 seconds dead to 60, some less. Getting one to do it is a different story though, and don't forget they only have one tyre for traction. In gear acceleration figures are a lot more relevant for bikes.
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H100S
953 posts
42 months
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John D.
9,556 posts
78 months
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H100S said: Rat fink got it in one.  Largely irrelevant for bikes compared to cars. All bikes are quick off the mark.
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Carl-H
755 posts
75 months
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Pretty pointless for bikes. A 600 would be very very similar to a 100, and something like an ER-6 is probably only a second or two off the 600. It would all depend on the rider too. Would a light or heavy rider be best is another variable, in a car the lighter the better but on a bike a heavier rider could use his weight to keep the front down.
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y2blade
46,412 posts
84 months
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Several bikes of various sizes can do 0-60 in slightly under 3 seconds. Including the Honda CBR600RR, Honda Fireblade, Suzuki GSXR1000, Kawasaki ZX-14, BMW S1000RR, etc. etc. etc. That seems to be about the limit because anything faster would just flip the bike over backwards.
As it is, it takes a VERY skilled rider to do it, so you'll find all kinds of 0-60 numbers for these bikes, depending on who was riding it.
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Rick448
1,072 posts
93 months
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As the replies above really, it is not really a relevant figure for bikes or cars. Surely the 30 - 60* etc figures are more "real world" as this is used to overtake. - insert 2 numbers of choice.
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Shadow R1
1,525 posts
45 months
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0 - 60 is all about the launch, plus wheelbase, as we only need 1st gear (110mph 1st on the R1).
Something like a busa, will be good because it has a long wheelbase, plus low down weight.
1\4 mile is possibly a better benchmark.
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Neal H
110 posts
63 months
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If bike manufacturers started quoting performance figures the road safety lobby would catch on and demand that anything with more than 30hp must be immediately banned.
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uk_vette
2,779 posts
73 months
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I would suggest for bikes, a time of 0 to 100 would give a better time separation.
0 to 60 on a bike is the blink of an eye.
Or perhaps a figure from 70 to 140 ?
vette
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redstu
2,056 posts
108 months
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40-70 in top is the one for me, I'm too lazy to change down!
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Mr2Mike
9,488 posts
124 months
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uk_vette said: I would suggest for bikes, a time of 0 to 100 would give a better time separation. Zero to anything is not a sensible statistic for a bike because launching a bike perfectly and consistently is very difficult.
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H100S
953 posts
42 months
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Roll on acceleration in 5 th gear times would be a great indicator of a bikes performance. 5Th gear would cover most bikes then 30 to 70 would be a good range while keeping it legal. I imagine a 1000cc machine would really show a clean pair of heels to a 600cc bike then as 0-60 is a poor indicator of performance on a motorbike.
Would love to see this done with a mix of bikes such as Kawasaki Ninga250 v ER6 v ZX6 V ZX10 V ZZR1400 to see how they varied.
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FunkyNige
4,931 posts
144 months
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Carl-H said: Pretty pointless for bikes. A 600 would be very very similar to a 100, and something like an ER-6 is probably only a second or two off the 600. It would all depend on the rider too. Would a light or heavy rider be best is another variable, in a car the lighter the better but on a bike a heavier rider could use his weight to keep the front down. I agree, as soon as you get up to 600cc the 0-60 times are very similar, even slow bikes like my SV650 (3.6s) are pretty similar to modern superbikes like the R1 (2.9s) so quoting the times is pretty irrelevant when you compare them to the spread you get with modern cars. Once you get to the 1/4 mile times they start spreading out a bit (11.8s and 10.05s)
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PaulMoor
918 posts
32 months
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I think the real reason is 0-60 dosn't sell bikes. We all know the advantages and dissadvantages of diffrent bikes and knowing that a k1300 is 0.3 seconds faster to 60 than a GSXR600 adds nothing to that and tells you nothing about the diffrences in the bikes.
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3doorPete
6,870 posts
103 months
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H100S said: Roll on acceleration in 5 th gear times would be a great indicator of a bikes performance. 5Th gear would cover most bikes then 30 to 70 would be a good range while keeping it legal. I imagine a 1000cc machine would really show a clean pair of heels to a 600cc bike then as 0-60 is a poor indicator of performance on a motorbike.
Would love to see this done with a mix of bikes such as Kawasaki Ninga250 v ER6 v ZX6 V ZX10 V ZZR1400 to see how they varied. I see that measure as pointless. My 600RR outperforms my Ducati 996, but the Ducati would romp a 30-70 in 5th against the 600. On the 600 I would be in 2nd gear for that increment, so saying a 600 is low performance due to a 5th gear roll on test is not true. You'd also find that large capacity nakeds would piss that test as they have a big engine and short gearing. Bikes already have a decent performance benchmark - quarter mile and magazine test lap times. On the road, the engine capacity and configuration will tell you the rest of the story. 0-60s haven't changed for years. 90s bikes like ZZR1100s had long wheelbases, more weight and short 1st gears, so 0-60 in a similar time to the latest short wheelbase lighter, more powerful, S1000RRs. I once read a test where a stock 99 Hayabusa with about 15 psi in the rear tyre ran a 1.9 sec 0-60. Unlike 99% of cars 0-60 on a bike is more about rider ability than the bike - Everything 600cc and upwards hits 60 in 1st so you are looking at balancing throttle, wheelie, wheelspin, clutch.
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H100S
953 posts
42 months
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3doorPete said: H100S said: Roll on acceleration in 5 th gear times would be a great indicator of a bikes performance. 5Th gear would cover most bikes then 30 to 70 would be a good range while keeping it legal. I imagine a 1000cc machine would really show a clean pair of heels to a 600cc bike then as 0-60 is a poor indicator of performance on a motorbike.
Would love to see this done with a mix of bikes such as Kawasaki Ninga250 v ER6 v ZX6 V ZX10 V ZZR1400 to see how they varied. I see that measure as pointless. My 600RR outperforms my Ducati 996, but the Ducati would romp a 30-70 in 5th against the 600. On the 600 I would be in 2nd gear for that increment, so saying a 600 is low performance due to a 5th gear roll on test is not true. You'd also find that large capacity nakeds would piss that test as they have a big engine and short gearing. Bikes already have a decent performance benchmark - quarter mile and magazine test lap times. On the road, the engine capacity and configuration will tell you the rest of the story. 0-60s haven't changed for years. 90s bikes like ZZR1100s had long wheelbases, more weight and short 1st gears, so 0-60 in a similar time to the latest short wheelbase lighter, more powerful, S1000RRs. I once read a test where a stock 99 Hayabusa with about 15 psi in the rear tyre ran a 1.9 sec 0-60. Unlike 99% of cars 0-60 on a bike is more about rider ability than the bike - Everything 600cc and upwards hits 60 in 1st so you are looking at balancing throttle, wheelie, wheelspin, clutch. You make some good points however my suggestion is not pointless, as you said a CBR600RR would beat the performance of the Ducati but with the measurement I suggested the Ducati would perform well therefore it would demonstrate performance differently making it valid. Different riders ride differently, have different demands hence many choices of bike out there for us all.
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BlackPrince
785 posts
38 months
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American mags used to do it (every bike every got the same 2.8 time though).
Aprilia claims their RSV4 does it in 2.5 secs in this beautiful advert (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmrifjXStSY&feature=autoplay&list=ULJxm3YQdF8io&playnext=1)
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gradderszx10r
209 posts
13 months
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There are no 0-60 mph quotes on a bike because they unfortunatly cannot say its 3.2 seconds on a specific bike but if your names Jamie Harris its considerably faster lol
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