Baron Von Grumble

[3DP]

RemaL said:

Biker's Nemesis said:

RemaL said:

I know we are all different but if the riding position is poor/extreme then that ticks this bike off my "next bike list". The 1299 is at the top but I was hoping in the spring to get a test ride. Just hope it's not as bad as they say I was edging by bets that I would like the R1 as it's grown on me a lot since it came out.

I've not ridden the M verson but the normal R1 has plenty of room and felt exactly like my 2004 R1.

The 1299 has really wide bars and is a touch more comfortable than the new R1

They feel like a nice comfortable double bed after riding a Fireblade

I found the blade to be really comfy and having toured on it would be happy to get a bike that is as good for all day riding as well as a blast and TD.

+1 Find the Blade the most comfortable riding position of any of the sports bikes. Especially the 2014 on as bars and rear sets are better positioned. Find my Blade far more comfy than my 04 R1 and loads more comfy than the 1198. My issues are lower back and neck, so basically anything with a pitched forward body position or very low bars is a problem. Seats that also slope down to the tank are an issue too.

Edited by 3DP on Monday 16th November 17:09

Edited by 3DP on Monday 16th November 17:10

[Steve Bass]

3DP said:

RemaL said:

Biker's Nemesis said:

RemaL said:

I know we are all different but if the riding position is poor/extreme then that ticks this bike off my "next bike list". The 1299 is at the top but I was hoping in the spring to get a test ride. Just hope it's not as bad as they say I was edging by bets that I would like the R1 as it's grown on me a lot since it came out.

I've not ridden the M verson but the normal R1 has plenty of room and felt exactly like my 2004 R1.

The 1299 has really wide bars and is a touch more comfortable than the new R1

They feel like a nice comfortable double bed after riding a Fireblade

I found the blade to be really comfy and having toured on it would be happy to get a bike that is as good for all day riding as well as a blast and TD.

+1 Find the Blade the most comfortable riding position of any of the sports bikes. Especially the 2014 on as bars and rear sets are better positioned. Find my Blade far more comfy than my 04 R1 and loads more comfy than the 1198. My issues are lower back and neck, so basically anything with a pitched forward body position or very low bars is a problem. Seats that also slope down to the tank are an issue too.

Not sure how BvG reckons the R1M has an extreme riding position. When I rode the R1, which is identical to the M, it was a very natural, relaxed position. The only oddity for me was the distance to the bum stop.
Rather try one out before you take peoples word as gospel

[Reardy Mister]

Which just goes to show that in order to review bikes, its more important to have lots of people who regularly tune in, than to be good at reviewing bikes.

[3DP]

Steve Bass said:

3DP said:

RemaL said:

Biker's Nemesis said:

RemaL said:

I know we are all different but if the riding position is poor/extreme then that ticks this bike off my "next bike list". The 1299 is at the top but I was hoping in the spring to get a test ride. Just hope it's not as bad as they say I was edging by bets that I would like the R1 as it's grown on me a lot since it came out.

I've not ridden the M verson but the normal R1 has plenty of room and felt exactly like my 2004 R1.

The 1299 has really wide bars and is a touch more comfortable than the new R1

They feel like a nice comfortable double bed after riding a Fireblade

I found the blade to be really comfy and having toured on it would be happy to get a bike that is as good for all day riding as well as a blast and TD.

+1 Find the Blade the most comfortable riding position of any of the sports bikes. Especially the 2014 on as bars and rear sets are better positioned. Find my Blade far more comfy than my 04 R1 and loads more comfy than the 1198. My issues are lower back and neck, so basically anything with a pitched forward body position or very low bars is a problem. Seats that also slope down to the tank are an issue too.

Not sure how BvG reckons the R1M has an extreme riding position. When I rode the R1, which is identical to the M, it was a very natural, relaxed position. The only oddity for me was the distance to the bum stop.
Rather try one out before you take peoples word as gospel

Fair point - riding positions are incredibly subjective as everyone is shaped a little different and have bodies that react differently to the particular stresses one position gives.

[Steve Bass]

3DP said:

Steve Bass said:

3DP said:

RemaL said:

Biker's Nemesis said:

RemaL said:

I know we are all different but if the riding position is poor/extreme then that ticks this bike off my "next bike list". The 1299 is at the top but I was hoping in the spring to get a test ride. Just hope it's not as bad as they say I was edging by bets that I would like the R1 as it's grown on me a lot since it came out.

I've not ridden the M verson but the normal R1 has plenty of room and felt exactly like my 2004 R1.

The 1299 has really wide bars and is a touch more comfortable than the new R1

They feel like a nice comfortable double bed after riding a Fireblade

I found the blade to be really comfy and having toured on it would be happy to get a bike that is as good for all day riding as well as a blast and TD.

+1 Find the Blade the most comfortable riding position of any of the sports bikes. Especially the 2014 on as bars and rear sets are better positioned. Find my Blade far more comfy than my 04 R1 and loads more comfy than the 1198. My issues are lower back and neck, so basically anything with a pitched forward body position or very low bars is a problem. Seats that also slope down to the tank are an issue too.

Not sure how BvG reckons the R1M has an extreme riding position. When I rode the R1, which is identical to the M, it was a very natural, relaxed position. The only oddity for me was the distance to the bum stop.
Rather try one out before you take peoples word as gospel

Fair point - riding positions are incredibly subjective as everyone is shaped a little different and have bodies that react differently to the particular stresses one position gives.

Exactly. I think it's kind of disingenuous when reviewers comment on ergos as what I find comfy might be hell for the next person. I'm more comfortable on Superbikes than anything else, not found one that's as bad as reviewers would have you believe

Edited by Steve Bass on Monday 16th November 17:22

[LoonR1]

Despite the revered status he seems to hold with many, I'd take his reviews with a pinch of salt. He was a rolling roadblock at Oulton Park this year and should've been in Inters where he'd have been mid pack at best. His only skill seems to be to waffle on endlessly whilst filtering in London. That requires a completely different type of bike to an R1M

[obscene]

LoonR1 said:

Despite the revered status he seems to hold with many, I'd take his reviews with a pinch of salt. He was a rolling roadblock at Oulton Park this year and should've been in Inters where he'd have been mid pack at best. His only skill seems to be to waffle on endlessly whilst filtering in London. That requires a completely different type of bike to an R1M

Sounds like BVG is a good billy BS'er.

[Tribal Chestnut]

obscene said:

LoonR1 said:

Despite the revered status he seems to hold with many, I'd take his reviews with a pinch of salt. He was a rolling roadblock at Oulton Park this year and should've been in Inters where he'd have been mid pack at best. His only skill seems to be to waffle on endlessly whilst filtering in London. That requires a completely different type of bike to an R1M

Sounds like BVG is a good billy BS'er.

Well, one of them is.

(joking, before toys get thrown)

[SAS Tom]

obscene said:

LoonR1 said:

Despite the revered status he seems to hold with many, I'd take his reviews with a pinch of salt. He was a rolling roadblock at Oulton Park this year and should've been in Inters where he'd have been mid pack at best. His only skill seems to be to waffle on endlessly whilst filtering in London. That requires a completely different type of bike to an R1M

Sounds like BVG is a good billy BS'er.

Pretty much, I was on the same day as Loon and was expecting BvG to be pretty quick given his videos and the amount of td's he does. He's in this video from about 12:30 onwards; http://youtu.be/VDA5PTjX1P4 for reference I've not done many td's and I'm on a road Thunderace not a fancy blade.

Since then I've taken his videos with a pinch of salt.

[Biker's Nemesis]

SAS Tom said:

Since then I've taken his videos with a pinch of salt.

Have you seen how slow my video's are?

[EvoBarry]

He doesn't pretend to be a riding god though does he, nor does he claim his reviews are to be taken as gospel, he's just fortunate enough to be able to do what he does and posts his thoughts on the bikes he gets to ride? I'd do the same if I wasn't a boring with no charisma on camera.

As for his pace on track, again, he does it 'cos he loves it not because he fancies his chances in BSB surely? For what its worth, looking at Toms vid there, he's only 4/5 seconds faster than I managed on my first ever bike trackday there, and I was on an old K8 road bike with Pilot4s, and I don't claim to be a riding guru either.. I bet he's having fun though.

As for people taking his reviews seriously, I would suggest its them with the problem not BvG?

[Steve Bass]

EvoBarry said:

As for people taking his reviews seriously, I would suggest its them with the problem not BvG?

BvG's normal faire of "thought of the day" whilst filtering etc is fine as a non serious interlude in an otherwise boring day, if that's your thing......
But if he's going to be providing bike reviews, then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a serious review, with info, insight and maybe a bit of humour if possible. But be accurate and informative. People watch reviews for buying cues.
If you can't take his reviews seriously, then what the point of them?? Seriously??

[jackh707]

I think that's where 44 teeth comes in.

[Tall_Paul]

Steve Bass said:

BvG's normal faire of "thought of the day" whilst filtering etc is fine as a non serious interlude in an otherwise boring day, if that's your thing......
But if he's going to be providing bike reviews, then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a serious review, with info, insight and maybe a bit of humour if possible. But be accurate and informative. People watch reviews for buying cues.
If you can't take his reviews seriously, then what the point of them?? Seriously??

Reviews are one person's opinions. I'd rather have the opinion of a regular biker, who commutes, does stupid stuff and so on. Most of the superbike reviews are done by ex-racers on a track, at least in BvG and 44th reviews they talk about real world stuff.

His video "R1M - an everyday bike?" looks at stuff none of the 'proper' reviews do, they're all about the track performance. His videos are him blathering on about random stuff, real world stuff - the 44teeth videos are the more serious side. Mostly.

https://youtu.be/6ImoDvnscjY

Edited by Tall_Paul on Tuesday 17th November 00:30

[Sushifiend]

Steve Bass said:

EvoBarry said:

As for people taking his reviews seriously, I would suggest its them with the problem not BvG?

BvG's normal faire of "thought of the day" whilst filtering etc is fine as a non serious interlude in an otherwise boring day, if that's your thing......
But if he's going to be providing bike reviews, then I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a serious review, with info, insight and maybe a bit of humour if possible. But be accurate and informative. People watch reviews for buying cues.
If you can't take his reviews seriously, then what the point of them?? Seriously??

You're not paying for the review though. If you were buying a magazine you'd expect different things from a bike review than you would from a vlogger on Youtube whose primary goal is to entertain. I don't think anyone (least of all BvG) expects anyone to use his "review" as a solid basis for a buying decision. BvG is catering to those of us who already like his sense of expression, those of us who would love a new £20k sportsbike but could never justify one or those of us still at school and dreaming one day of owning a "jizz machine". I'm sure that jizz stuff is meant to appeal to spotty schoolkids and it's one of the things I really don't like. I I find his videos entertaining and worth watching or I wouldn't do so.

[eddd1e]

EvoBarry said:

He doesn't pretend to be a riding god though does he, nor does he claim his reviews are to be taken as gospel, he's just fortunate enough to be able to do what he does and posts his thoughts on the bikes he gets to ride? I'd do the same if I wasn't a boring with no charisma on camera.

As for his pace on track, again, he does it 'cos he loves it not because he fancies his chances in BSB surely? For what its worth, looking at Toms vid there, he's only 4/5 seconds faster than I managed on my first ever bike trackday there, and I was on an old K8 road bike with Pilot4s, and I don't claim to be a riding guru either.. I bet he's having fun though.

As for people taking his reviews seriously, I would suggest its them with the problem not BvG?

+1

[moanthebairns]

Who is ever going to buy a bike because BVG rates it. It doesn't matter how slow or fast he is around Oulton Park. Or how much you love him, your just going to watch that review as something to pass the time.

I find him incredibly annoying and about as funny as Miranda Hart on her period, I just don't get that "Spice World" humour. But others do so Good luck to him. I cant help but think people now feel like he owes them something. He's just clowning about on bikes giving you free videos to pass the time. They're not meant to be digested and taken apart. Its just like someone writing a review of something on here, a bit of fun.

[bennyb24]

FWIW I did go and have a test ride after watching one of his videos - he got rid of the s1000rr and raved about the pane 899.... so figured it would be worth a bash - but I just hated the 899 - so ever since I take everything he says with a pinch of salt.

I hope the fueling isnt quite as bad as everybody reports on the Yam as I have signed up for a 2016 R1M - but there is a tuner just down the road from me - so sure they can do some magic wizzardry with flashing and ecu's and stuff I dont understand - some of the Americans on T'internet reckon they have it sorted so no real dramas there.

[moanthebairns]

He liked the 899, I take back what I said the man hasn't got a fking clue.

[Reardy Mister]

bennyb24 said:

FWIW I did go and have a test ride after watching one of his videos - he got rid of the s1000rr and raved about the pane 899.... so figured it would be worth a bash - but I just hated the 899 - so ever since I take everything he says with a pinch of salt.

I hope the fueling isnt quite as bad as everybody reports on the Yam as I have signed up for a 2016 R1M - but there is a tuner just down the road from me - so sure they can do some magic wizzardry with flashing and ecu's and stuff I dont understand - some of the Americans on T'internet reckon they have it sorted so no real dramas there.

You saw the "review" of the 899 and on the strength of that, went and test rode one?