Michelin Pilot Road 3 Update...
Discussion
Well thats just the thing on my Blade I am riding in dry weather unless caught out. I do enjoy lots of grip and I do tend to throw the bike around a bit.
However if I was looking for road bias all weather tyres for my Multistrada, which is ridden regardless condition (however I am pleasure only rider mainly and rarely do commutes) then the PR3 sounds good. Saying that I have just stuck some Angel GT's on the bike.
However if I was looking for road bias all weather tyres for my Multistrada, which is ridden regardless condition (however I am pleasure only rider mainly and rarely do commutes) then the PR3 sounds good. Saying that I have just stuck some Angel GT's on the bike.
Silver993tt said:
epends on your riding. If you doing just dry weather riding the PP3's are fine but in any damp/wet conditions the PR3/PR4 are leagues ahead of the PP3.
Absolute nonsense... I've ridden on both tyres! - the PP3's are VERY close to the ability of the PR3's in the wet. Totally rock solid.Mr OCD said:
Hooli said:
Just ordered another PR3 rear to replace mine, there is enough life in the front to last so it's rude not to keep them matching.
Not fancy trying the PR4?jammy_basturd said:
Is it at all possible that the two of you had different experiences due to completely different bikes, suspension setups and riding styles?
Indeed it is ... but as I said I've experienced both tyres for myself on the same hardware therefore I know that on the R1 the PP3's have very similar wet grip. Certainly not enough of a difference to pick one tyre over the other in that respect - certainly not at my level anyway. However, the front PP3 tyre is simply astounding compared to the PR3 when pushing on and this is the main reason for me choosing them as well as being better suited to track days.Both tyres are very good... I'd have no issues riding on either in any conditions but I do prefer the PP3's as a good all-round sports tyre... if I was riding something less capable then I'd probably use the PR3 / PR4 but the R1's do seem to push the front tyre due to the weight over the front.
Mr OCD said:
I've done 13,000 miles on Pilot Road 3's on an R1...
I've done 12,000 miles on Pilot Power 3's on an R1...
In Sun, Rain and Snow on the road ... and also used them on Track.
Disagree all you like.
So you've never used the PR4? Was fantastic on my ZZR1400 which is one of the most capable bikes on the road and significantly better than the PP3 in a range of road conditions and surfaces. I've also had an R1, bought in April 1998, one of the originals.I've done 12,000 miles on Pilot Power 3's on an R1...
In Sun, Rain and Snow on the road ... and also used them on Track.
Disagree all you like.
Edited by Silver993tt on Thursday 7th August 13:48
jammy_basturd said:
Is it at all possible that the two of you had different experiences due to completely different bikes, suspension setups and riding styles?
I can see what your trying to do here... it was a good effort. 
On another note but related. I would always run matched tyres. I would rather bin a good tyre with some life in it then run mismatched tyres. I think I have a OCD (no pun intended) when it comes to matching tyres.
Question: How resistant are the PP3 to squaring? I found my S02 Bridgestone getting a tiny bit square after a 800 mile run through France. However the tyre already have 1000 hard wales hooning miles on it.
te and the other isn't?Renn Sport said:
I can see what your trying to do here... it was a good effort.
On another note but related. I would always run matched tyres. I would rather bin a good tyre with some life in it then run mismatched tyres. I think I have a OCD (no pun intended) when it comes to matching tyres.
Question: How resistant are the PP3 to squaring? I found my S02 Bridgestone getting a tiny bit square after a 800 mile run through France. However the tyre already have 1000 hard wales hooning miles on it.
I've had a PP3 on for all season, meaning a trackday and probably 1500-2000 miles. Most of the miles have been commuting in a pretty straight line.On another note but related. I would always run matched tyres. I would rather bin a good tyre with some life in it then run mismatched tyres. I think I have a OCD (no pun intended) when it comes to matching tyres.
Question: How resistant are the PP3 to squaring? I found my S02 Bridgestone getting a tiny bit square after a 800 mile run through France. However the tyre already have 1000 hard wales hooning miles on it.
Silver993tt said:
o you've never used the PR4? Was fantastic on my ZZR1400 which is one of the most capable bikes on the road and significantly better than the PP3 in a range of road conditions and surfaces. I've also had an R1, bought in April 1998, one of the originals.
The PR4 is the only tyre in the Michelin range I have not used... clearly it is better suited to a heavy touring bike like a ZZR1400 but then they are the types of bikes Michelin has aimed this tyre at... As I said the PP3 is a better tyre on a lightweight R1 compared to the PR3's which are not well suited (the front especially) and has similar wet weather grip to the PR3. This is my opinion and what I have found from doing over 50,000 miles on R1's in the past four years... mainly on Michelin tyres.Edited by Silver993tt on Thursday 7th August 13:48
I wouldn't say a ZZR1400 was one of the most capable bikes on the road either... but that's for another discussion.
I've gotten over 5k + a trackday from my PP3s and they still haven't squared off.
I even accidentally ran the front wheel the wrong way round for a few weeks, which included a midnight blat from Oxford to London in probably the most torrential rain I've ever experienced. Even with what looked like an inch of standing water and it being almost impossible to see where the bloody road was going, I remember thinking at the time, "thank God I've got these fancy Michelins on"
What a knobber
I even accidentally ran the front wheel the wrong way round for a few weeks, which included a midnight blat from Oxford to London in probably the most torrential rain I've ever experienced. Even with what looked like an inch of standing water and it being almost impossible to see where the bloody road was going, I remember thinking at the time, "thank God I've got these fancy Michelins on"
What a knobber
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