Michelin Pilot Road 3 Update...
Discussion
moanthebairns said:
how many track days 
... each set of tyres probably does two track days ... rest is commuting / smile miles.As I've said before I do 330 miles a week up and down the M62 hence the mileage I get from tyres...
If I used the bike for smile miles / track days only I'd be lucky to get half the usual mileage...
moanthebairns said:
right explains a lot. understandable with commuting miles
so would you say 4-5 track days if they were only used for that
I have mentioned this before but it gets ignored when I mention the mileage I get from tyres hence the 'twisting' the throttle banter ... so would you say 4-5 track days if they were only used for that
I'd be lucky to get 4-5 track days in honesty given by the wear on my rear ... I'd say 3-4 max.
RemyMartin said:
I've done around 2-3k on the PR4 in just about every condition. Monsoon rain to baking hot and they are utterly joyous and superb. My eyes have been opened to how fast you can corner in the wet. Worth evert Penny in my opinion.
No previous fully road orientated tyres though, my previous datum is pilot power 2 and 3s and conti sport attacks.
On the same bike? Interested in comparisons between pilot road 4 and pilot power 3... No previous fully road orientated tyres though, my previous datum is pilot power 2 and 3s and conti sport attacks.
RemyMartin said:
Sadly not the same bike. So comparisons are slightly skewed. Even so the pr4 is an amazing tyre, worth the price alone for the wet weather grip.
Not too fussed by wet weather grip as the pilot power 3's are fine. More considering the handing of the bike on a sports tyre compared to a sports touring tyre. Hooli said:
I've found recently that pr3s work better with a couple of psi less than pr2s. I'm running mine 2psi lower than book pressures, all the vagueness and twitchyness Lent over has gone.
Never had that issue... sounds like your suspension needs work... 
I didn't like the front tyre myself... when pushing on it moves a little which makes my butt pucker up...
Farrant said:
Trashed my rear in 6k miles... How some of you get 10k+ I'll never know. PR4 next I think.
+1 on the front end, don't like to push the front hard at all with these on. Only thing I don't like about them.
Said before it's the style of the bike combined with you being able to use the throttle harder at low speed without the concern of the bike high siding or flipping you ... +1 on the front end, don't like to push the front hard at all with these on. Only thing I don't like about them.
theshrew said:
I'm looking for some new tyres ATM looking at Pilot power 3's but just noticed I can get Pilot Power a lot cheaper.
Anyone used them what are they like ? Worth paying the extra for the 3's since I'm slower than a snail + possibly selling my bike soon.
Pay the extra for the Power 3's ... Ignore the 'pilot road' recommendations. Anyone used them what are they like ? Worth paying the extra for the 3's since I'm slower than a snail + possibly selling my bike soon.
cdrick4 said:
Get more mileage with PR3's. The Q3's are worth considering also. I heard many great things about them.
That's just it I don't get a massive amount of difference... an extra 2-3k miles tops ... and the front PP3 tyre is leagues ahead of the PR3 ... I buy the PP3's for that reason alone.Silver993tt said:
epends on your riding. If you doing just dry weather riding the PP3's are fine but in any damp/wet conditions the PR3/PR4 are leagues ahead of the PP3.
Absolute nonsense... I've ridden on both tyres! - the PP3's are VERY close to the ability of the PR3's in the wet. Totally rock solid.jammy_basturd said:
Is it at all possible that the two of you had different experiences due to completely different bikes, suspension setups and riding styles?
Indeed it is ... but as I said I've experienced both tyres for myself on the same hardware therefore I know that on the R1 the PP3's have very similar wet grip. Certainly not enough of a difference to pick one tyre over the other in that respect - certainly not at my level anyway. However, the front PP3 tyre is simply astounding compared to the PR3 when pushing on and this is the main reason for me choosing them as well as being better suited to track days.Both tyres are very good... I'd have no issues riding on either in any conditions but I do prefer the PP3's as a good all-round sports tyre... if I was riding something less capable then I'd probably use the PR3 / PR4 but the R1's do seem to push the front tyre due to the weight over the front.
Silver993tt said:
o you've never used the PR4? Was fantastic on my ZZR1400 which is one of the most capable bikes on the road and significantly better than the PP3 in a range of road conditions and surfaces. I've also had an R1, bought in April 1998, one of the originals.
The PR4 is the only tyre in the Michelin range I have not used... clearly it is better suited to a heavy touring bike like a ZZR1400 but then they are the types of bikes Michelin has aimed this tyre at... As I said the PP3 is a better tyre on a lightweight R1 compared to the PR3's which are not well suited (the front especially) and has similar wet weather grip to the PR3. This is my opinion and what I have found from doing over 50,000 miles on R1's in the past four years... mainly on Michelin tyres.Edited by Silver993tt on Thursday 7th August 13:48
I wouldn't say a ZZR1400 was one of the most capable bikes on the road either... but that's for another discussion.
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