Any fast bikes wanting to take on supercars?

Any fast bikes wanting to take on supercars?

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spareparts

6,777 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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fergus said:
Your beetle is currently one of the quicker std 0-100 cars I think. Nice bit of kit. PDK I presume? Does it have launch control functionality?
7.2 TurboS only came as PDK, and LC is standard. It has become quicker as the motor is now fully bedded in and is bog standard. I heard that there will be a Ruf'd 7.2 TurboS at the event (likely with modified non-VTG turbos) that should run a Veyron close through the quarter mile. Quite a few tuned 1k hp GTRs I suspect which will be fun to see which survive themselves.

srob

11,623 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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moanthebairns said:
srob said:
moanthebairns said:
srob said:
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?

I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
to be fair its is a trying to do 200 mph on the M9, especially on a 600.
Exactly!

It's easy to roll your eyes and declare something is easy, but unless you've actually done it I don't really get how you can say that?!

If someone has done an actual 200mph and says it's easy, I'll listen to them! I don't think I actually know anyone that has done it...
NOTE: I never said it was easy at any point to do 200 mph I was merely trying to be slightly witty.

It appears I failed
Nah I know you didn't. I was kinda agreeing with you thumbup

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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spareparts said:
fergus said:
Your beetle is currently one of the quicker std 0-100 cars I think. Nice bit of kit. PDK I presume? Does it have launch control functionality?
7.2 TurboS only came as PDK, and LC is standard. It has become quicker as the motor is now fully bedded in and is bog standard. I heard that there will be a Ruf'd 7.2 TurboS at the event (likely with modified non-VTG turbos) that should run a Veyron close through the quarter mile. Quite a few tuned 1k hp GTRs I suspect which will be fun to see which survive themselves.
Whatever all that stuff means, I'm beginning to get the impression that them car lads seem to be playing their "I've got a modded...." card which suggests to me the earlier comment about "showing up with a race prepped bike being a bit unfair" is now redundant smile Has it now become a Run wot You Brung event ?

Peterrim

8 posts

133 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Aah, it's a shame the event is full, I should have liked the chance to put my taxed & tested home-built turbo bike against some fast cars, and show that upstart The Zedhed the way home biggrin


srob

11,623 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Is it me, or has BB just got a lot more interesting scratchchin

The Zedhed

14 posts

133 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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srob said:
Exactly!

It's easy to roll your eyes and declare something is easy, but unless you've actually done it I don't really get how you can say that?!

If someone has done an actual 200mph and says it's easy, I'll listen to them! I don't think I actually know anyone that has done it...
No trumpet blowing at all here but if I went through the timing lights at 200mph I would be severely dissapointed. There would be something wrong with the bike.

200mph is easy, on the right machine winkwink


Mr Rimmer, you do make me laugh tongue out

Busa mav

2,562 posts

155 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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The Zedhed said:
No trumpet blowing at all here but if I went through the timing lights at 200mph I would be severely dissapointed. There would be something wrong with the bike.
you need to post the pic of the last engine " that had something wrong with it " biggrin

Gary11

4,162 posts

202 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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srob said:
You may be, but give it another couple of hours and there'll be a thread linking to this one on general gassing, then there'll be an invasion of people with Calibras with drain exhausts baosting about how they 'owned' a GSXR1000 or some ste!
LOL joking aside on that new A130 in essex I did a rolling start squirt (60mph) against an R6 in a Jaguar XKR cab it was so funny just floored it traction light was flashing at 70mph! and got away from him when I turned off at the next junction he gave me a huge thumbs up whilst shaking his head...bet he thought silly old git in his Jag they have got some midrange though!
App for any impending chav input forthcoming.It was nearly as much fun as mashing scoobys off the lights in the old mans car LOL!

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

217 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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srob said:
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHnNxMJLfvA

srob said:
I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
Lack of space. Not many things do 200mph.

srob

11,623 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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The Zedhed said:
No trumpet blowing at all here but if I went through the timing lights at 200mph I would be severely dissapointed. There would be something wrong with the bike.

200mph is easy, on the right machine winkwink


Mr Rimmer, you do make me laugh tongue out
I don't doubt it, on the right bike!

I still don't know anyone who's done it though - and I know a GP winner, an ex wheelie world speed record holder and an ex European stunt champion amongst others. If it was that easy, I'm pretty sure one of those fruitloops woulda done it by now hehe

spareparts

6,777 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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sprinter1050 said:
spareparts said:
fergus said:
Your beetle is currently one of the quicker std 0-100 cars I think. Nice bit of kit. PDK I presume? Does it have launch control functionality?
7.2 TurboS only came as PDK, and LC is standard. It has become quicker as the motor is now fully bedded in and is bog standard. I heard that there will be a Ruf'd 7.2 TurboS at the event (likely with modified non-VTG turbos) that should run a Veyron close through the quarter mile. Quite a few tuned 1k hp GTRs I suspect which will be fun to see which survive themselves.
Whatever all that stuff means, I'm beginning to get the impression that them car lads seem to be playing their "I've got a modded...." card which suggests to me the earlier comment about "showing up with a race prepped bike being a bit unfair" is now redundant smile Has it now become a Run wot You Brung event ?
I don't think a 'race prepped bike' would be meaningfully quicker in a straight line over a standard superbike, unless the 'race prepped bike' were actually a dragbike of some kind.

fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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spareparts said:
I don't think a 'race prepped bike' would be meaningfully quicker in a straight line over a standard superbike, unless the 'race prepped bike' were actually a dragbike of some kind.
+1. "race prepared" normally refers to circuit racing, where apart from superbikes, most engine tuning is very limited (headgaskets, exhausts, and remapping).

A drag bike, or bike built specifically for vmax runs is not "race prepared" (being pedantic)

Peterrim

8 posts

133 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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The Zedhed said:
Mr Rimmer, you do make me laugh tongue out
You do the same to me - now kindly keep your trousers pulled up biggrin

Phil610

14 posts

133 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Some mph figures from my bike. 0-60=1.4seconds, 0-100=2.8 seconds, 0-200=7.6 seconds. The bike has been down the 900meter straight at Snetterton at 203.9mph from a standing start. BSB's on the day were comming off the bend onto the straight at 70-80, the fastest one reaching 177mph. The bike has had the front wheel off the floor at over 220mph with the back tyre spinning out. They are a handfull to ride hard but produce the finest adrenaline for that fix few ever get the chance to experience.
The day looks to be fantastic for those lucky enough to be there. There is always going to be an element of who or what is ultimatly the quickest but there will always be ultimate respect between competitors as they are the only people that know just what is involved.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Is that with or without the ponytail?

LordFlathead

9,641 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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bogie said:
I guess this is one of the questions they expect to answer on the day; just how easy is it for average Joe to extract the claimed performance from their vehicle
Good call. This is the exact reason I want to find out. I'm definitely average Joe and never pretended to be anything other. I've not had the opportunity on the road to do a flat balls out start nor even begun so find the limits of my bike nor would I publicly and this is the reason I wanted to go smile

To those that say the standard bikes will let the side down, I'm sorry for having an almost standard bike but I'm sure the cagers will appreciate how fast their tuned cars are against a relatively standard ZZR1400. For me, it's not about winning with the biggest numbers, it's all about a learning opportunity that I would never have on a public road.. don't get me wrong though I will still be trying my damnedest to get the best speeds attainable.

To be honest I'm more worried about getting a bad start and throwing it down the track, there are big risks here despite the excellent approach to safety and mitigation.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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mister_ee said:
LoonR1 said:
I'm still running the HP4 in so that's out. One of the S1000RRs would do just as good a job. Thing is I'm not interested in going flat out in a straight line. No real skill needed to do that.
I'm sorry but that is absolute balls, fair enough if you're not interested but to say it takes no skill to get a bike flat out is just plain wrong, I've done RWB at Elvington and getting the last few mph out of a bike is not as simple as it sounds and until you've done it you won't know, it's like saying road racing is a piece of piss cos all you have to do is brake later and go faster round corners than the other guys, sounds easy when you put it like that
No it's not balls. I can twist the throttle on my bike and pin it in 1st, 2nd and 3rd with ease in a straight line, he other gears are not done, as I don't fancy that on the road. I might not wring that extra 2mph at the top end, but so what? If I go on a diet and lose a stone or two, I'll repeat the exercise and find that 2mph.

Complete and utter waste of time IMO.

There is absolutely no skill at all in pinning a roadbike through the gears in a straight line until you get to the very top end and then it's only about holding on.

fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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LoonR1 said:
No it's not balls. I can twist the throttle on my bike and pin it in 1st, 2nd and 3rd with ease in a straight line, he other gears are not done, as I don't fancy that on the road. I might not wring that extra 2mph at the top end, but so what? If I go on a diet and lose a stone or two, I'll repeat the exercise and find that 2mph.

Complete and utter waste of time IMO.

There is absolutely no skill at all in pinning a roadbike through the gears in a straight line until you get to the very top end and then it's only about holding on.
What about the launch, or would you rely on software? There is a lot of skill in a non LC assisted take off.

LiamB

7,940 posts

144 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Go to about 1 minute in this video:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=046_1366837297


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996 sps

6,165 posts

217 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Gary11 said:
LOL joking aside on that new A130 in essex I did a rolling start squirt (60mph) against an R6 in a Jaguar XKR cab it was so funny just floored it traction light was flashing at 70mph! and got away from him when I turned off at the next junction he gave me a huge thumbs up whilst shaking his head...bet he thought silly old git in his Jag they have got some midrange though!
App for any impending chav input forthcoming.It was nearly as much fun as mashing scoobys off the lights in the old mans car LOL!
Honestly you do sound a tad clueless.