Any fast bikes wanting to take on supercars?
Discussion
LoonR1 said:
I'm still running the HP4 in so that's out. One of the S1000RRs would do just as good a job. Thing is I'm not interested in going flat out in a straight line. No real skill needed to do that.
I'm sorry but that is absolute balls, fair enough if you're not interested but to say it takes no skill to get a bike flat out is just plain wrong, I've done RWB at Elvington and getting the last few mph out of a bike is not as simple as it sounds and until you've done it you won't know, it's like saying road racing is a piece of piss cos all you have to do is brake later and go faster round corners than the other guys, sounds easy when you put it like that
Yazza54 said:
I just hope that the SCD lot only put tuned cars against tuned bikes. Otherwise putting a 1000bhp tuned car against a standard production bike proves nothing and isn't a remotely level playing field.
Hoping these two turbo nutters posting above level it out for us
Either way it doesn't prove anything, it's only a bit of fun anyway. Just can't stand those tests where all the car boys cream themselves because a car that's been tuned and had tens of thousands spent on it beats a bike that's just rolled out of the showroom, so none of that please!
Thanks for the feedback. The runs won't be scientific, just in the name of fun! Hoping these two turbo nutters posting above level it out for us
Either way it doesn't prove anything, it's only a bit of fun anyway. Just can't stand those tests where all the car boys cream themselves because a car that's been tuned and had tens of thousands spent on it beats a bike that's just rolled out of the showroom, so none of that please!
mister_ee said:
I'm sorry but that is absolute balls, fair enough if you're not interested but to say it takes no skill to get a bike flat out is just plain wrong, I've done RWB at Elvington and getting the last few mph out of a bike is not as simple as it sounds and until you've done it you won't know, it's like saying road racing is a piece of piss cos all you have to do is brake later and go faster round corners than the other guys, sounds easy when you put it like that
Ok, so aside from getting a good launch and not missing any gears, what is so hard about it?I'm not being facetious btw, this is a genuine question.
fergus said:
"I was just getting out of 2nd, when we went super sonic..."
That's some pretty tall gearing you're running there. What sort of power do you have, as to get to 192 in 3rd also needs a fair bit of torque.
Out of interest, what do you use the rce bike for? Drag Racing? Sounds very impressive either way.
Is your bike able to see off Jack Frost's turbo 'Busa (248mph, standing mile & 278 vmax IIRC)?
Plenty of power and torque especially as this is only 1152cc, I'm not able to give exact figues as we have yet to get a decent dyno pull beyound 23psi ~ 500hp then the tyre turns to smoke. I have run 42psi on the track but that was a slight mistake That's some pretty tall gearing you're running there. What sort of power do you have, as to get to 192 in 3rd also needs a fair bit of torque.
Out of interest, what do you use the rce bike for? Drag Racing? Sounds very impressive either way.
Is your bike able to see off Jack Frost's turbo 'Busa (248mph, standing mile & 278 vmax IIRC)?
Race one is mainly for topspeed. No way of seeing Jack off as he's got more power (bigger more modern motor) and he's significatly smaller than me which makes a big difference on a bike.
Getting a quick launch on a bike is the hardest part. Thereafter, if you have a quickshifter this takes care of keeping gear changes (and the bike) stable.
Most of the fast cars will be able to deploy launch control, should be hitting 100mph in around 6 secs, and running the quarter mile somewhere between 10-11 seconds, all day long by keeping the pedal to the metal. Even the S1000RR or similar high powered bikes with average riders do not stand a chance.
Tuned cars will be even quicker than the numbers above.
Most of the fast cars will be able to deploy launch control, should be hitting 100mph in around 6 secs, and running the quarter mile somewhere between 10-11 seconds, all day long by keeping the pedal to the metal. Even the S1000RR or similar high powered bikes with average riders do not stand a chance.
Tuned cars will be even quicker than the numbers above.
spareparts said:
Getting a quick launch on a bike is the hardest part. Thereafter, if you have a quickshifter this takes care of keeping gear changes (and the bike) stable.
Most of the fast cars will be able to deploy launch control, should be hitting 100mph in around 6 secs, and running the quarter mile somewhere between 10-11 seconds, all day long by keeping the pedal to the metal. Even the S1000RR or similar high powered bikes with average riders do not stand a chance.
Tuned cars will be even quicker than the numbers above.
? The new La Ferrari, which has around 800hp, weighs nothing and has a lot of very trick launch and e-diff settings, "only" does 0-100 in around late 6.X seconds.Most of the fast cars will be able to deploy launch control, should be hitting 100mph in around 6 secs, and running the quarter mile somewhere between 10-11 seconds, all day long by keeping the pedal to the metal. Even the S1000RR or similar high powered bikes with average riders do not stand a chance.
Tuned cars will be even quicker than the numbers above.
Agree, that unless you can do a full bore race start on a bike, you don't stand a chance. This normally involves dropping/slipping the clutch at around 7-9k rpm, making sure you don't flip it. Not easy.
srob said:
MrKipling43 said:
Ok, so aside from getting a good launch and not missing any gears, what is so hard about it?
I'm not being facetious btw, this is a genuine question.
Maybe ask the Campbell family, or Andy Green?I'm not being facetious btw, this is a genuine question.
MrKipling43 said:
Well, yeah obvisouly, but we're talking about doing 200mph on a road bike on an airfield here, right? Not exactly pushing the envelope of what's possible on land. I thought we'd discounted drag racing and world speed record attempts a while ago?
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
Whilst we are playing Top Trumps again
surely there are many off the shelf road bikes that do 1/4 miles in 10-11secs ...with the gizmos switched on and a few practice runs ?
how many off the shelf road going supercars do sub 10secs 1/4 miles ? a Veyron?
forget the modified stuff, otherwise you are into anything goes, and it just depends what turns up on the day. You need to follow proper drag racing class rules to make it meaningful in any way
I guess this is one of the questions they expect to answer on the day; just how easy is it for average Joe to extract the claimed performance from their vehicle
surely there are many off the shelf road bikes that do 1/4 miles in 10-11secs ...with the gizmos switched on and a few practice runs ?
how many off the shelf road going supercars do sub 10secs 1/4 miles ? a Veyron?
forget the modified stuff, otherwise you are into anything goes, and it just depends what turns up on the day. You need to follow proper drag racing class rules to make it meaningful in any way
I guess this is one of the questions they expect to answer on the day; just how easy is it for average Joe to extract the claimed performance from their vehicle
fergus said:
spareparts said:
Getting a quick launch on a bike is the hardest part. Thereafter, if you have a quickshifter this takes care of keeping gear changes (and the bike) stable.
Most of the fast cars will be able to deploy launch control, should be hitting 100mph in around 6 secs, and running the quarter mile somewhere between 10-11 seconds, all day long by keeping the pedal to the metal. Even the S1000RR or similar high powered bikes with average riders do not stand a chance.
Tuned cars will be even quicker than the numbers above.
? The new La Ferrari, which has around 800hp, weighs nothing and has a lot of very trick launch and e-diff settings, "only" does 0-100 in around late 6.X seconds.Most of the fast cars will be able to deploy launch control, should be hitting 100mph in around 6 secs, and running the quarter mile somewhere between 10-11 seconds, all day long by keeping the pedal to the metal. Even the S1000RR or similar high powered bikes with average riders do not stand a chance.
Tuned cars will be even quicker than the numbers above.
Agree, that unless you can do a full bore race start on a bike, you don't stand a chance. This normally involves dropping/slipping the clutch at around 7-9k rpm, making sure you don't flip it. Not easy.
srob said:
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?
I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
to be fair its is a I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
trying to do 200 mph on the M9, especially on a 600. moanthebairns said:
srob said:
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?
I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
to be fair its is a I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
trying to do 200 mph on the M9, especially on a 600. trying to do 200 on a 50 down an alleyway. spareparts said:
Is the new Fezza that slow? My Beetle stands a chance then! Re the bike, my 1098R struggles to keep the front on the floor under WOT in any of the first 4 gears - no way can it keep up -off the line-. A superbike only stands a chance if they were doing roll-on 30-150mph drags...
Your beetle is currently one of the quicker std 0-100 cars I think. Nice bit of kit. PDK I presume? Does it have launch control functionality?moanthebairns said:
srob said:
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?
I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
to be fair its is a I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
trying to do 200 mph on the M9, especially on a 600. It's easy to roll your eyes and declare something is easy, but unless you've actually done it I don't really get how you can say that?!
If someone has done an actual 200mph and says it's easy, I'll listen to them! I don't think I actually know anyone that has done it...
srob said:
moanthebairns said:
srob said:
Why have you discounted them? All Andy Green did was open the throttles, didn't he?
I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
to be fair its is a I know that on paper any of us could do 200mph on a bike. I do wonder why so few are in the club though, if it's that easy? And don't pretend you wouldn't want to be able to say that you'd done a true 200mph!
trying to do 200 mph on the M9, especially on a 600. It's easy to roll your eyes and declare something is easy, but unless you've actually done it I don't really get how you can say that?!
If someone has done an actual 200mph and says it's easy, I'll listen to them! I don't think I actually know anyone that has done it...
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