Mock my Riding Position

Mock my Riding Position

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amancalledrob

1,248 posts

134 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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mu0n said:
I never really understand why most riders ride with their feet out like ducks – I am pretty sure I don’t?
I've always heard it referred to as 'commuter foot'. Balls of feet just feels so much more in control and yes you need to move your feet for brakes/gear but you don't use rear brake much unless you're in traffic or doing a u-turn and it's no great hardship just to move your foot when you need to grab a gear

Fleegle

16,689 posts

176 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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I'm with Fats on this.

It all comes with time and increase in speed - the most important thing is to go out and enjoy yourself, concentrating more on doing your own thing and feeling comfortable than trying to emulate the Rossi's, Stoners et al.

The first thing to do when on trackdays is learn lines...even if your pace is pedestrian. Body positioning should come naturally as you increase your speed. Your feet will find themselves going in the right place through a number of reasons a) because the faster you go the more your bike will lean and the more your boots will scrape b) the faster you go the more you will push into the pegs - not very easy to do with the balls of your feet when you are cranked over

mu0n

2,348 posts

133 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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amancalledrob said:
I've always heard it referred to as 'commuter foot'. Balls of feet just feels so much more in control and yes you need to move your feet for brakes/gear but you don't use rear brake much unless you're in traffic or doing a u-turn and it's no great hardship just to move your foot when you need to grab a gear
Yeah I rarely use my rear brake, maybe occasionally to make sure it still works and so I still have a feel for it.

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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mu0n said:
Yeah I rarely use my rear brake, maybe occasionally to make sure it still works and so I still have a feel for it.
I use mine quite a lot to balance the bike before applying the front brake, and also a lot in traffic, i.e. to slow down on the approach to a roundabout so i can down change and blip the throttle all at the same time..


Fats25

6,260 posts

229 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Graham said:
mu0n said:
Yeah I rarely use my rear brake, maybe occasionally to make sure it still works and so I still have a feel for it.
I use mine quite a lot to balance the bike before applying the front brake, and also a lot in traffic, i.e. to slow down on the approach to a roundabout so i can down change and blip the throttle all at the same time..
That is a different thread. It pops up about once a month on here! wink

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Fats25 said:
That is a different thread. It pops up about once a month on here! wink
I only use my back brake if I'm riding without my leathers or all weather biking on my way to ask what bike I should buy or how much it costs to do a DAS test.



Fleegle

16,689 posts

176 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Prof Prolapse said:
Fats25 said:
That is a different thread. It pops up about once a month on here! wink
I only use my back brake if I'm riding without my leathers or all weather biking on my way to ask what bike I should buy or how much it costs to do a DAS test.
What is this back brake you talk of?

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

216 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Fleegle said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Fats25 said:
That is a different thread. It pops up about once a month on here! wink
I only use my back brake if I'm riding without my leathers or all weather biking on my way to ask what bike I should buy or how much it costs to do a DAS test.
What is this back brake you talk of?
I only use my back brake to keep the front end down over Ago's leap on my way to another 130mph+ lap....

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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MrKipling43 said:
I only use my back brake to keep the front end down over Ago's leap on my way to another 130mph+ lap....
170 for me.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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mu0n said:
I never really understand why most riders ride with their feet out like ducks – I am pretty sure I don’t?
I invariably ride with my instep on the footrest and toes hanging forwards. Partly to reach the brake better, but partly so that I don't need to bend my knees so much.

I never ride on tracks though.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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moanthebairns

Original Poster:

17,939 posts

198 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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that is exactly how I looked on Morrison forecourt a few weeks ago with the daytona.

I'm a riding god!

mu0n

2,348 posts

133 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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There's a clip of a rider going around a bend quick and low (I doubt as low as that?) and he ends up high siding... what would cause that? Losing rear wheel traction (going too fast?) it gripping and tossing the rider over the other way.

moanthebairns

Original Poster:

17,939 posts

198 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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I really should have cleaned the bike looking back at it.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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mu0n said:
There's a clip of a rider going around a bend quick and low (I doubt as low as that?) and he ends up high siding... what would cause that? Losing rear wheel traction (going too fast?) it gripping and tossing the rider over the other way.
Panicking and shutting the gas too quickly?

<strokes his Keith Code-esque beard>

moto_traxport

4,237 posts

221 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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As Fats said, don't worry about too much about your position. Your style is your style and trying to modify it under extreme stress doesn't generally work.

amancalledrob said:
mu0n said:
I never really understand why most riders ride with their feet out like ducks – I am pretty sure I don’t?
I've always heard it referred to as 'commuter foot'. Balls of feet just feels so much more in control and yes you need to move your feet for brakes/gear but you don't use rear brake much unless you're in traffic or doing a u-turn and it's no great hardship just to move your foot when you need to grab a gear
My style incorporates duck feet!



I have tried to change it but you tend to go back to what you know when trying to go fast. I move the inside foot up but outside one stubbornly stays where it is and looks rubbish. I console myself that Troy Bayliss used to do the same thing.

Wildfire

9,789 posts

252 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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I'm on my first track day week after next. It's a novice day at Brands. Very nervous, but looking forward to it, even if it's to say I've done one.

(praying I don't bin it!)

moanthebairns

Original Poster:

17,939 posts

198 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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for the next one I'm just going to ride like I do on roads I know.

hang off a little more, adopt the feet thing (surprisingly comfey) and maybe try putting some air in my tyres.

just checked them, 26 psi on the back I just topped them up 2 weeks ago!!!

I did wonder why the fk they squirmed so much on the track (pr3s)

mckeann

2,986 posts

229 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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26 cold is probably about right on a warm track, even on road tyres

redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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MC Bodge said:
You need to hang off more which would allow you to keep the bike more upright. Also try lifting your head and looking through the exit of corner. It looks like you are trying to count brush strokes in the red and white paint.

Other than that, it looks to be a fair effort, Mr Bodge.