Motorcycle Roof Rack

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3DP

9,917 posts

234 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Has anyone noticed that all of these lashed up roof mounted designs are in the 3rd world on clapped out stters?

If I was in the 3rd world and had a stter, I'd be less worried about adapting my car to carry a motorcycle on the roof and would be devoting my time to fitting a Ma Deuce to the load bed of a 25 year old HiLux.

fk motorbikes - there's nothing cooler than having your very own mobile heavy machine gun platform. It's only a matter of time before a civil war/revolution/breakdown of government happens in these countries and it's not very often in life that you may have the opportunity to be referred to as a 'War Lord'.


blugnu

1,523 posts

241 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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What could possibly go wrong?

http://fragg.me/video/dirt-bike-car-roof

Deisel Weisel

2,532 posts

184 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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blugnu said:
What could possibly go wrong?

http://fragg.me/video/dirt-bike-car-roof
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redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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3DP said:
Has anyone noticed that all of these lashed up roof mounted designs are in the 3rd world on clapped out stters?
I know it has it's fair share of problems, but wouldn't go so far as to call US/California "3rd world".

As for clapped out stters, no shortage of those here, probably more so than in California as used car values tend to much lower in the UK. thumbup

blugnu

1,523 posts

241 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Deisel Weisel said:
blugnu said:
What could possibly go wrong?

http://fragg.me/video/dirt-bike-car-roof
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Works for me. Here is a direct link to the file though.

http://embed.fragg.me/00071/200711/moto-toit-voitu...

redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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blugnu said:
What could possibly go wrong?

http://fragg.me/video/dirt-bike-car-roof
What could go wrong?. Well you could wreck your trailer in addition to the bike. scratchchin



3DP

9,917 posts

234 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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redtwin said:
3DP said:
Has anyone noticed that all of these lashed up roof mounted designs are in the 3rd world on clapped out stters?
I know it has it's fair share of problems, but wouldn't go so far as to call US/California "3rd world".

As for clapped out stters, no shortage of those here, probably more so than in California as used car values tend to much lower in the UK. thumbup
Land of the free and also alas, the mildly retarded.

I have a 2008 Chevrolet Matiz as a tow car - it's about as st as st gets, but at no point have I ever thought that what I really need is a roof based motorcycle transport solution.

srob

11,588 posts

238 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Has the OP declared how he proposes to get the bike on/off this contraption?

Assuming the carrier is what; 1.5m off the groud and the ramp is (a very steep!) 2:1 you'd need a 3m long ramp. And you'd need it ~1200mm wide so you could make sure the bike doesn't topple over?

So that's a ramp that's 3x1.2m. You'd need a way to carry that. Maybe he could design something to carry that too. Perhaps something that - I dunno - is towed behind the car? Some kind of a trailer...

Actually, maybe he could modify a motrobike trailer to carry the ramp?

And another trailer to carry the hernia he'd pop out pushing the bike up there hehe

R1gtr

3,426 posts

154 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Why don't you just attach a crane to the side of the car to lift the bike on and off? I mean why wouldn't that work?

snowdude2910

754 posts

164 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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I don't think it's unachievable but the question is why? there are so many better ways to transport a bike.
The roof strength shouldn't be a problem I've turned cars on their roofs before and they don't even crush a little bit with 10x the weight of a bike supported on the roof.
Lifting a 120kg bike onto the roof with 2 people is doable but a pain in the arse.
Strapping it to the rack would be a bit dodgy or through the car even worse so not sure on that one maybe to solid points under the car?
2 straps through the frame to the front and rear tow eyes would stop the missile effect and massively reduce pressure on the roofrack mounts.
So all in all u bolt a piece of metal guttering to your roofrack and go for it be sure to post pics.

Deisel Weisel

2,532 posts

184 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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blugnu said:
Deisel Weisel said:
blugnu said:
What could possibly go wrong?

http://fragg.me/video/dirt-bike-car-roof
Error Loading Media. File Could Not Be Played.
Works for me. Here is a direct link to the file though.

http://embed.fragg.me/00071/200711/moto-toit-voitu...
HOLY MOLY! eek Poor bike frown

ram7577

271 posts

140 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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As a bit of an aside item - is there a motorbike trailor you can buy than can convert into a regular bogey for taking rubbish to skip etc?

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

157 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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ram7577 said:
As a bit of an aside item - is there a motorbike trailor you can buy than can convert into a regular bogey for taking rubbish to skip etc?
Not as far as I know. But, obviously, the best way of carrying rubbish to the dump would be to put it on the roof. -

Trailers are so yesterday...

srob

11,588 posts

238 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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snowdude2910 said:
I don't think it's unachievable but the question is why? there are so many better ways to transport a bike.
The roof strength shouldn't be a problem I've turned cars on their roofs before and they don't even crush a little bit with 10x the weight of a bike supported on the roof.
Lifting a 120kg bike onto the roof with 2 people is doable but a pain in the arse.
Strapping it to the rack would be a bit dodgy or through the car even worse so not sure on that one maybe to solid points under the car?
2 straps through the frame to the front and rear tow eyes would stop the missile effect and massively reduce pressure on the roofrack mounts.
So all in all u bolt a piece of metal guttering to your roofrack and go for it be sure to post pics.
You reckon you could lift a 120kg bike onto the roof of a car?!


snowdude2910

754 posts

164 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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srob said:
You reckon you could lift a 120kg bike onto the roof of a car?!
Just the other day me and a mate lifted a 200kg srad onto the back of a flatbed with a full tank of fuel so I cant see a mx bike weighing nigh on half the weight being a problem

underwhelmist

1,857 posts

134 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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I had a hankering for pre-GM Saab 900 recently, and while researching I read that the door handles on these were designed as structural features. Thus, the car could be pulled out of snowdrifts and ditches, etc. by its door handles.

These would obviously make ideal lashing points for tying a roof mounted bike down, and the shape of the old 3 door hatch means there's practically a built in ramp anyway.

Also my kids made me watch an episode of top gear where they dropped a Saab on its roof to demonstrate its strength. I think I've identified a suitable development mule.

srob

11,588 posts

238 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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snowdude2910 said:
Just the other day me and a mate lifted a 200kg srad onto the back of a flatbed with a full tank of fuel so I cant see a mx bike weighing nigh on half the weight being a problem
Yeah, I've lifted bikes onto trailers and into vans and stuff but I've never had to walk up the back of a car with one!

Or, do you mean lifting it on from the side? The handlebars would be far above head height so how are you going to stop it toppling? A flatbed's chest height at most, not head height!

And generally I haven't minded if the van/trailer gets scuffed en route to getting the bike on when we lift them. Would the average punter be happy with a big scrape out of their car?

Nope.


Fleegle

16,689 posts

176 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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underwhelmist said:
I had a hankering for pre-GM Saab 900 recently, and while researching I read that the door handles on these were designed as structural features. Thus, the car could be pulled out of snowdrifts and ditches, etc. by its door handles.

These would obviously make ideal lashing points for tying a roof mounted bike down, and the shape of the old 3 door hatch means there's practically a built in ramp anyway.

Also my kids made me watch an episode of top gear where they dropped a Saab on its roof to demonstrate its strength. I think I've identified a suitable development mule.
How do you get in the car once you have strapped the bike down?

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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Fleegle said:
How do you get in the car once you have strapped the bike down?
From underneath. You'll need to make some sort of trapdoor device and spend a few quid rerouting the mechanical stuff under the car, but so what.

I'm starting to think this idea has legs. Instead of spending a couple of hundred quid on a trailer you could spend tens of thousands on modifying a car to make this roof rack system work.

RizzoTheRat

25,139 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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Fleegle said:
How do you get in the car once you have strapped the bike down?
Have you never watched The Dukes of Hazzard? I can't believe the defeatest attitude some of you lot have. smile