Motorcycle Roof Rack

[einsign]

[VidalBaboon]

LoonR1 said:

ram7577 said:

LoonR1 said:

1. The roof would collapse
2. The ratchet straps would destroy the car
3. The car would probably tip over at the first corner
4. How would you get it off?
5. How woul you get it back on again when you've not got the winch
6. Plod would have a field day if they saw you
7. Your insurance would probably be invalid

Enough?

Most points you make are bks. Other than that spot on.

Go on then, point out which ones are bks.

1. It won't take much for that to give way, if thre's the slightest dent in it with the weight of a bike and holding contraption, being pulled down onto it.

2. Where would you rathchet it to, that won't mess up the car?

3. The car would be very unstable and the suspension being heavily compressed.

4. Well?

5. Ditto. I can;t see the winch contraption fitting in the car for loading and unloading

6. Over weight? Unsafe load?

7. I'm fairly happy that this is highly likely.

I've had some 'sturdy' girls on the roofs of cars before and it hasn't caved in. Just saying, like.

[LoonR1]

VidalBaboon said:

I've had some 'sturdy' girls on the roofs of cars before and it hasn't caved in. Just saying, like.

OK, so let's say Point 1 is invlaid, that still leaves 6 more to debunk. There is a difference between a fat bird and a rigid frame though.

[Corpulent Tosser]

The right car, and a suitable banking to reduce the length of ramps and just maybe

[VidalBaboon]

LoonR1 said:

1. The roof would collapse- would probably chew the gutter rails though- some bracing required & optional bubble wrap roof lining.
2. The ratchet straps would destroy the car- Doubtfull, just open the windows and loop it through with bailing twin.
3. The car would probably tip over at the first corner- go slower around corners?
4. How would you get it off?- 11krpm & on the back wheel
5. How woul you get it back on again when you've not got the winch- 11krpm & on the back wheel
6. Plod would have a field day if they saw you- drive faster, or climb out and deploy motorbike if unable shake panda car.
7. Your insurance would probably be invalid- that's for tax-payers anyway, don't bother.

Enough?

Easy!

Edited by VidalBaboon on Sunday 9th June 12:34

[Mr Snap]

einsign said:

Does something like this actually exist, if not why not?

Yes, things like this exist.


















But only in the minds of UKIP supporters...

[Hooli]

LoonR1 said:

7. Your insurance would probably be invalid

How & why? I'm in no way doubting you but it's occurred to me that if it's because manufacture's limits have been ignored then would insurance also be invalid with an overloaded topbox?

Mr Snap said:

But only in the minds of EU supporters...

Fixed that for you, it's the EU that likes top heavy unstable structures on dodgy foundations after all

[LoonR1]

If there was something specifically designed for this then maybe it'd be ok. Theoretically an overloaded topic would invalidate too but unlikely in reality.

[nsr125rr]

Hooli said:

How & why? I'm in no way doubting you but it's occurred to me that if it's because manufacture's limits have been ignored then would insurance also be invalid with an overloaded topbox?

There is typically a clause in most general insurance policies excluding liability in the event that the insured has not complied with a manufacturers instructions and I imagine a motor policy would have something similar. The weight of a motorbike would almost certainly exceed the specifications for roof load on most cars.

That aside, if the bike were properly secured and the roof reinforced to take the weight, I dont see why this couldnt be done. The additional weight is the same as two passengers, and although it's on the roof so will make the car roll more in the corners, the car should be safely drivable.

Utterly pointless thread, but has proved amusing this far.

[Turbofocus]

LoonR1 said:

Go on then, point out which ones are bks.

1. It won't take much for that to give way, if thre's the slightest dent in it with the weight of a bike and holding contraption, being pulled down onto it.

This one is to be fair.

Car roofs are made out of much more than a thin sheet of metal.There is a large shell underneath the thin roof skin designed to withstand side impacts,rollovers etc.

Think of cars in scrapyards with one or even two cars stacked on their roofs.

Just to be clear though,I still think its a stupid idea.

[Alonso92]

LoonR1 said:

If there has ever been the correct time to use a meme in a thread, this has got to be it.

[heretheygo]

and you didn't think it could get even more stupid? -



the beetle I don't care for but the avant? -

Edited by heretheygo on Sunday 9th June 15:35

[Hooli]

LoonR1 said:

If there was something specifically designed for this then maybe it'd be ok. Theoretically an overloaded topic would invalidate too but unlikely in reality.

Ta, I thought it'd be something like that.

[redtwin]

The best way to avoid possible roof collapse is to just remove the roof completely.



If there is the chance of rain it may be best to keep the roof. You will need to spend a small fortune on ratchet straps though.



In all honesty a car probably isn't the best option for carrying a bike.



On another note, I wonder how many times the phrase was uttered "that will never work, only birds were meant to fly", or "don't be stupid, there is no way man can land on the moon".

[einsign]

redtwin said:

On another note, I wonder how many times the phrase was uttered "that will never work, only birds were meant to fly", or "don't be stupid, there is no way man can land on the moon".

[J B L]

3DP said:

einsign said:

Thanks, do you know who I am or what I do?

My guess is marketing...

Oi!

[Mr2Mike]

redtwin said:

On another note, I wonder how many times the phrase was uttered "that will never work, only birds were meant to fly", or "don't be stupid, there is no way man can land on the moon".

Many times no doubt, but that not what is being said here. This may be technically possible given the right car, but it is a stupid solution to a problem that has already been solved in much better ways.

[Hooli]

redtwin said:

The best way to avoid possible roof collapse is to just remove the roof completely.



If there is the chance of rain it may be best to keep the roof. You will need to spend a small fortune on ratchet straps though.



In all honesty a car probably isn't the best option for carrying a bike.



On another note, I wonder how many times the phrase was uttered "that will never work, only birds were meant to fly", or "don't be stupid, there is no way man can land on the moon".

Especially that last one which deserves an extra of it's own.

[redtwin]

Mr2Mike said:

Many times no doubt, but that not what is being said here. This may be technically possible given the right car, but it is a stupid solution to a problem that has already been solved in much better ways.

Still no reason to stifle innovation or at the very least, free thinking. Piston engines powered aircraft for many years, yet someone still pressed ahead with jet turbines. You can't convince me that no-one scoffed at Whittle and berated him for suggesting that there was an alternative.

I am not suggesting that I want to carry a motorcycle on the roof of my car, but I do think that trailers/vans have their drawbacks and I am all for someone inventing a better wheel.

The photos I posted were meant to be lighthearted, but they are examples of three people who chose try something different rather than listen to the masses who said "You can't". It may not end well, but dammit they gave it a shot.

[Mr2Mike]

redtwin said:

Still no reason to stifle innovation or at the very least, free thinking.

Innovation and free thinking are fine, but this is more like flawed thinking IMO. There are too many significant and fundamental issues to make this a useful solution for full sized bikes.

I suppose small scooters might be under the roof load limit for a useful number of cars, but you still have the problem of getting one onto the roof safely. Then again you could just drag one of the bloody things up on it's side with a winch and it wouldn't look any less crap.