Does any one here ride an ER6F?
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If you do, and follow the recent trend of sliding your bike down the road, can I have first offer of an ABS Pump?
Seriously - they are more expensive to replace than I thought, and the wifes bike has decided to stop working, and servicing the rear brakes (front still working).
If anyone hears of one going, or being broken, then let me know please. Is this part (16082).
Seriously - they are more expensive to replace than I thought, and the wifes bike has decided to stop working, and servicing the rear brakes (front still working).
If anyone hears of one going, or being broken, then let me know please. Is this part (16082).
Edited by Fats25 on Tuesday 18th June 19:00
jackh707 said:
Hi, check out the UK versys forum, everyone is very friendly and I pretty sure the parts are interchangeable.
Never heard of an ABS failure before, how old is the bike?
Is a 2008 bike - from a quick google search today, appears quite a common fault!Never heard of an ABS failure before, how old is the bike?
Good idea re the versys - will take a look......
b591 said:
I own a 2008 ER6F - you've scared me 
No help to you though, sorry.
I'm not going to say it - but if you do - you know - No help to you though, sorry.
. Let me know!!!I found this - but looks like parts changed on the 2009 model:-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151000064111?ssPageName=...
Just to give you an idea why I am not buying new and to show why I think different parts.
2006/7/8 part :
http://www.kawasakimotorcyclespares.co.uk/spares/p...
2009/10/11 part :
http://www.kawasakimotorcyclespares.co.uk/spares/p...
For now I am going to bypass the abs unit for the rear brake, and leave just the front through the ABS, and remove the lamp for the abs sensor for the MOT. Will buy some time to find the part.
now im not familiar with ABS on bikes, but if there is 2 pumps, one for the front an one for the rear, i would just remove the rear one and bypass the loom into it thinking its still working.
screw spending 850 quid for one unit, you could get a whole working bike for that
can you not take the pump to bits, see whats broken, then either bodge it back to working, or get someone to machine out a part or something? that would be my first thing i would try rather than spend 850 quid.
screw spending 850 quid for one unit, you could get a whole working bike for that
can you not take the pump to bits, see whats broken, then either bodge it back to working, or get someone to machine out a part or something? that would be my first thing i would try rather than spend 850 quid.
Cant you get the unit reconditioned?
Alternatively can you see if the are any manufacturer part numbers stamped on the unit? You might be able to find a independent who can obtain one. Eg if its a bosch unit then it would normally consist of ten numbers.
A quick google might show they are fitted to some other bikes allowing you to look at options.
Alternatively can you see if the are any manufacturer part numbers stamped on the unit? You might be able to find a independent who can obtain one. Eg if its a bosch unit then it would normally consist of ten numbers.
A quick google might show they are fitted to some other bikes allowing you to look at options.
To answer the questions above:-
1) What is wrong with it? Cannot get any fluid to move that is going through the ABS Pump for the rear brake. Remove the lines (both ends) and fluid moves fine.
2) Can you remove the rear pump and keep the front? No - it is a single unit for both.
3) Can you get a refurbed unit? I have been looking but no idea.
4) Can you keep the front running on ABS, and have the rear as manual? That was the original plan - however having spoken to Kawasaki, and my mechanic, they believe this is a risky strategy. They believe as the pump has failed on the rear brakes, and is controlled using the same diaphragm, it could fail at any time with no warning.
5) Could I could remove the unit and revert it to a non-ABS bike? Certainly could, and it has been considered - will not make a great deal of difference to the resell value, and I would just have to inform insurer that it is now a non-abs model.
If it was my bike I would probably take the risk - and run just on the front, but as it is the wifes, I have decided that I can't do that.
I have taken a punt on the part I listed above on Ebay from Holland, and hopefully will fix the issue. If it does not, then it is £200 down the drain, and I will revert it to a non-abs model.
Anyone with an ER6F - keep it safe out there, I don't want to have wasted £200 when I could have done a deal with you if you slide it down the road in the coming weeks!
1) What is wrong with it? Cannot get any fluid to move that is going through the ABS Pump for the rear brake. Remove the lines (both ends) and fluid moves fine.
2) Can you remove the rear pump and keep the front? No - it is a single unit for both.
3) Can you get a refurbed unit? I have been looking but no idea.
4) Can you keep the front running on ABS, and have the rear as manual? That was the original plan - however having spoken to Kawasaki, and my mechanic, they believe this is a risky strategy. They believe as the pump has failed on the rear brakes, and is controlled using the same diaphragm, it could fail at any time with no warning.
5) Could I could remove the unit and revert it to a non-ABS bike? Certainly could, and it has been considered - will not make a great deal of difference to the resell value, and I would just have to inform insurer that it is now a non-abs model.
If it was my bike I would probably take the risk - and run just on the front, but as it is the wifes, I have decided that I can't do that.
I have taken a punt on the part I listed above on Ebay from Holland, and hopefully will fix the issue. If it does not, then it is £200 down the drain, and I will revert it to a non-abs model.
Anyone with an ER6F - keep it safe out there, I don't want to have wasted £200 when I could have done a deal with you if you slide it down the road in the coming weeks!
Fats25 said:
5) Could I could remove the unit and revert it to a non-ABS bike?
I thought that the latest EU regs meant that MOTs had to check original fitment items were working?£850 is a ridiculous price though, they must have only been £30 or so on the parts cost of the bike when new.
Fats25 said:
To answer the questions above:-
1) What is wrong with it? Cannot get any fluid to move that is going through the ABS Pump for the rear brake. Remove the lines (both ends) and fluid moves fine.
I'd be inclined to take it apart and see how it's meant to work and why it isn't then go from there it's got to be worth a pop1) What is wrong with it? Cannot get any fluid to move that is going through the ABS Pump for the rear brake. Remove the lines (both ends) and fluid moves fine.
Hi All,
Apologies for the thread resurrection. I appear to have the same issue on a 2008 Kawa Versys model with my ABS pump.
Fats25 - if you're still around, I wanted to ask whether or not the 2009 ABS pump you got worked in the end, or whether you got it fixed another way?
I'm in the same boat where I can find a few 2009 units, but the model numbers differ.
Cheers all,
Nick
Apologies for the thread resurrection. I appear to have the same issue on a 2008 Kawa Versys model with my ABS pump.
Fats25 - if you're still around, I wanted to ask whether or not the 2009 ABS pump you got worked in the end, or whether you got it fixed another way?
I'm in the same boat where I can find a few 2009 units, but the model numbers differ.
Cheers all,
Nick
I'm still around - just not quite as vocal these days in this forum as have moved abroad, and do not have a bike yet.
To answer your question, the 2009 part did work. However after fitting we could never get the ABS light to go out on the dash. It was intermittent, but for some reason it would not always go off after the pre-engine checks. The brakes themselves worked perfectly though, and ABS functioned as expected.
To answer your question, the 2009 part did work. However after fitting we could never get the ABS light to go out on the dash. It was intermittent, but for some reason it would not always go off after the pre-engine checks. The brakes themselves worked perfectly though, and ABS functioned as expected.
neek said:
Cheers! That's useful info, will hopefully go the same route and find a replacement on ebay 
A bit more info - this is obviously a fairly common fault as my mechanic has directed two other customers my way to assist in sourcing a part (he is not great at Ebay and IT in general), and I have found all parts on foreign Ebay sites, I got mine from Holland, another from Germany, and another from France. So search the European Ebay sites as well.
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