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Mine, if anyone's interested. 112k miles and still running strong. Pic taken last summer and have split with girlfriend since so now back in the garage for the grafting of a single seat unit over the next few weeks.
Loud and low, full MCT suspension set up, often seen upper end of intermediates group at Snetterton. Love her.
Loud and low, full MCT suspension set up, often seen upper end of intermediates group at Snetterton. Love her.
graphene said:
Have you explained one of the essential Cafe racer motifs, albeit in a pejorative way? 
I don't understand your long word 
I know there's no rules on what is and isn't a caff racer, but to those who have been 'into' them since long before they became fashionable again there's certain things that go with the term. One is that they should have either clip ons or ace bars. The other is rearsets.
To me, this defines what a caff racer should look like;
There was a definate style, and it's getting all muddled up now with flat trackers, bobbers and other customs being labelled caff (or cafe) racers, which to a fan of the original, is annoying
graphene said:
What guff!!! You are merely an outrageous badge-snob, srob.
I think, what you really mean is: I like only those bikes that are flawed, decrepit, built with 19th-century tooling and where each part weighs 3x times more than is necessary
Nope, I mean get your own fI think, what you really mean is: I like only those bikes that are flawed, decrepit, built with 19th-century tooling and where each part weighs 3x times more than is necessary
king name for bikes that are simply not caff racers!!!Call them unicorns or something - leave the proper name for proper bikes
graphene said:
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I'd rather 
srob said:
I know there's no rules on what is and isn't a caff racer, but to those who have been 'into' them since long before they became fashionable again there's certain things that go with the term. One is that they should have either clip ons or ace bars. The other is rearsets.
And no more than 2 cylinders.
catso said:
And no more than 2 cylinders.
So . . . what's a Cafe Racer with a 70s Jap Four called then?Either way, in the US they seem to be called Canyon Racers.
I'm sure there's a Japan equivalent.
The original Ace Cafe - been there, lovely dishes BTW - had to be the origin so that's the 2 cil bit? HD and BMW make great Caf Racers:
Or a Duc:
Oh boyo:
Am I being a Phiistine?
Not a Philistine, but I know why people get bent out of shape about it. 
Having always loved this style of bike I used to get pissed off in the last couple years when 'Cafe Racer' got bandied about for any custom bike.
But there are so many sub genres and cultures and they are all being mixed nowadays, I don't really care if something is a Cafe, a Bobber, a Bratt or something else entirely!
I'm just glad that there are some real quality Boutique builders around like Deus, CRD, Blitz, Wrenchmonkees, Spirit of the Seventies, etc who are building fantastic looking bikes and unlike the chopper craze of the 2000's they are actually rideable.
And unlike the 'Streetfighter' craze of the 90s they don't just look like crashed sport bikes.
Happy to soak up these beautiful bikes, whatever they may be.
Having always loved this style of bike I used to get pissed off in the last couple years when 'Cafe Racer' got bandied about for any custom bike.
But there are so many sub genres and cultures and they are all being mixed nowadays, I don't really care if something is a Cafe, a Bobber, a Bratt or something else entirely!
I'm just glad that there are some real quality Boutique builders around like Deus, CRD, Blitz, Wrenchmonkees, Spirit of the Seventies, etc who are building fantastic looking bikes and unlike the chopper craze of the 2000's they are actually rideable.
And unlike the 'Streetfighter' craze of the 90s they don't just look like crashed sport bikes.
Happy to soak up these beautiful bikes, whatever they may be.
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