Cafe Racers

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CBR JGWRR

6,535 posts

150 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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srob said:
Anyone think a CG125 based caff racer would sell?

I'm not sure how fashionable they are with learner age people? Something like this;



Just curious if it'd be worth doing one.
Hmm...

I wonder.

LordFlathead

9,641 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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srob said:
I pretty much agree, but for the Square four engined featherbed cloud9

Good call. My favourite all time Norton, and rare to even see pictures these days.



catso

14,788 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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dinkel said:
So . . . what's a Cafe Racer with a 70s Jap Four called then?
A CB750?...

ram7577

271 posts

141 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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I thought the whole idea of a cafe racer was going as fast as possible at the time ergo a current cafe racer would be superbike.


WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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XS650s make cracking Cafe Racersyes

srob

11,617 posts

239 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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ram7577 said:
I thought the whole idea of a cafe racer was going as fast as possible at the time ergo a current cafe racer would be superbike.
To an extent.

It was at a time where there were definate 'scenes'. The rockers rode caff racers and scrapped with Mods (the scooerists), so they slowly exaggerated the look to make sure everyone knew they were rockers.

Rockers added the essentials of swept back pipes, clip ons, rear sets, often a fly screen (all basically trying to immitate a Manx Norton style) and the Mods did the same, adding mirrors by the ton to make sure everyone knew they were Mods.

So caff racers were certainly about going fast, but there was also a very defined style of bike.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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graphene said:
Hooli said:
Is that why they are often lighter than new bikes? wink
No, that's because the old bikes are usually half the size and have half the number of parts smile
yes

Proof you don't need all the extra 'spares' fitted these days wink

UnluckyTimmeh

3,459 posts

214 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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This will be very similar to the one i'm building...



Edited by UnluckyTimmeh on Saturday 6th July 11:46

dinkel

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26,954 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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catso said:
dinkel said:
So . . . what's a Cafe Racer with a 70s Jap Four called then?
A CB750?...
Rosscow said:
Cracking CB750 effort from Dozer:

CBR JGWRR

6,535 posts

150 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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What's a café racer with a full fairing called?

I'm considering rebuilding the CB into one.

srob

11,617 posts

239 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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CBR JGWRR said:
What's a café racer with a full fairing called?

I'm considering rebuilding the CB into one.
A few caff racers were built in period with full fairings, but generally they weren't about in that era. Later ones (from the mid-late sixties) like the Velocette Thruxton (below) were available with a full fairing, and some aftermarket firms like Avon made fairings.


CBR JGWRR

6,535 posts

150 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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That is almost exactly what I was thinking of.

LiamB

7,940 posts

144 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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srob said:
Anyone think a CG125 based caff racer would sell?

I'm not sure how fashionable they are with learner age people? Something like this;



Just curious if it'd be worth doing one.
I'd ride it.

dinkel

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26,954 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Blime!

MV Agusta. This is off course a racer . . . absolute 3 cil peach.


Guzzi.


Suzuki T500!


This Hardtail BSA rocks my boat: big time!


Honda CB 750 Cafe Racer. It looks more like a bobber than a café racer, but the name is the least important when looking at the actual bike.

Agreed!

ram7577

271 posts

141 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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srob said:
A few caff racers were built in period with full fairings, but generally they weren't about in that era. Later ones (from the mid-late sixties) like the Velocette Thruxton (below) were available with a full fairing, and some aftermarket firms like Avon made fairings.

that isn't a cafe racer, it is a standard thruxton with a half fairing

Riff Raff

5,121 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Here's one I had for a long time in a couple of iterations.

There isn't much difference between the two. The first was as bought, the second after Dave Degens had worked it over.

It is a '54 T100 engine in a '59 wideline frame.

I thought it was a bit of a bargain when I bought it as a box of bits: however it didn't run well after i'd put it back together, so I tore it apart again. It had no compression, two different sized carbs, and a Bonneville crank. The inside of the cases had lots of missing webs, so because of the Bonnie crank it had probably been raced and had a fairly serious engine failure at some point, resulting in the mangled webs.

That's when I realised I needed a professional Triumph man to work out what needed doing........




VinceFox

20,566 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Recent pic of my rc42 caff/mad max retro build...



Have a build thread if anyone wants to see it, it's turned into a real labour of love.

srob

11,617 posts

239 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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ram7577 said:
that isn't a cafe racer, it is a standard thruxton with a half fairing
Except a Thruxton is a caff racer.

Albeit a factory one, but along with the BSA Goldstar, it's probably one of the most successful factory ones.

Russ T Bolt

1,689 posts

284 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Charger500 said:
Holy crap, I guess that started live as one of these?

Not unless they changed the engine and the frame for something else.

bimsb6

8,043 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Russ T Bolt said:
Not unless they changed the engine and the frame for something else.
Not to mention every other part on it !