Mito 443 Project

[Yazza54]

No Scott I'll try and sort something next time, TBH the amount of stuff I'd changed over winter I wasn't sure how it was going to go so had nothing like that planned, pleasantly surprised everything was spot on.

[sc0tt]

Yazza54 said:

No Scott I'll try and sort something next time, TBH the amount of stuff I'd changed over winter I wasn't sure how it was going to go so had nothing like that planned, pleasantly surprised everything was spot on.

Good to hear mate!

[buzzer]

How did i miss this! just read it all, brilliant!

[Biker's Nemesis]

Does it wheelie Ryan?

[Yazza54]

Just a little

I'm crap at em though, tends to do it on its own

[Yazza54]

buzzer said:

How did i miss this! just read it all, brilliant!

Thanks

[Steve Bass]

Good to see you back on the case with this

[Yazza54]

Cheers Steve, it rides well but there will be ongoing development.

I think at some point it will be getting a Nova C/R conversion. Not the full Nova box they do a set of gears that can be swapped. I think first becomes longer then the rest are much closer. At the moment some of the gaps are a bit much. Quick shifter helps and I still don't think the needles are spot on so I'm sure I'll get it better.

[Steve Bass]

Yazza54 said:

Cheers Steve, it rides well but there will be ongoing development.

I think at some point it will be getting a Nova C/R conversion. Not the full Nova box they do a set of gears that can be swapped. I think first becomes longer then the rest are much closer. At the moment some of the gaps are a bit much. Quick shifter helps and I still don't think the needles are spot on so I'm sure I'll get it better.

From personal experience, the Nova stuff is spot on, you'll not be disappointed.
I also did this to my 250 as 1st to 2nd was comically long as standard. Even changing at 12k in 1st you dropped out of the power in 2nd. So now 1st is longer, 2nd is shorter as well as 6th. Well worth the effort..

[Yazza54]

[rigga]

Not been a fan of faired bike's for many years now, but that is stunning.

[Yazza54]

Little update



MOT on Sat went through easy, as it should it's barely been used since last MOT!



Been playing with the carbs a lot, still not right though. Waiting for some smaller needle jets from Allens to clean the mid range up, currently on the top clip and no more adjustment. It'll be more rideable once that's done because currently it's a little flat then all hell brakes loose. The way it accelerates is unreal, it makes my old R1 feel like a pushbike.



I noticed the quickshifter wasn't as slick as usual and found a rose joint in the linkage very baggy so waiting for that to come. Also I need to make some kind of cowl/attachment for the radiator to force the air through the rad more. On the plus side the yam R6 fan works fantastically well.



I've ordered a power dynamo kit too, should rev faster/harder and be kinder to the crank while retaining a reasonable bit of flywheel weight.



The only other major modification I'm tempted to do is fit a Nova Transmissions close ratio conversion, which makes 1st longer and 2nd 3rd 4th much closer. At the moment the gaps are fairly big but I think the effect of this is made considerably worse by the fact I'm running too rich in the mid range, so I'll park that idea for now.

[Biker's Nemesis]

I could do with a tab, a Marlbourgh.

[pozi]

Yazza54 said:

It'll be more rideable once that's done because currently it's a little flat then all hell brakes loose.

It's two-stroke, they are supposed to be like that

[Yazza54]

pozi said:

Yazza54 said:

It'll be more rideable once that's done because currently it's a little flat then all hell brakes loose.

It's two-stroke, they are supposed to be like that

True but it's not right at the moment. It won't make it any less mental but maybe a little more predictable in the delivery.

[Yazza54]

The infuriating side of owning a 2 stroke and generally trying to reinvent the wheel

Rang Allens performance after the next size down needle jet in attempt to clean up the mid range. "We've got no R-4 so we'll ream out some r-2s to the same spec"

Alarm bells rang, thought that must be very difficult to do but gave them the benefit of the doubt as carbs are their speciality and they must have done it before. Well fk me they must be like a dick in a shirt sleeve it's that rich it wouldn't even idle and was only marginally better when I dropped the needle right down. But still 100% worse than when I started. What a waste of time.

[Tom Logan]

Steve Bass said:

Yazza54 said:

Cheers Steve, it rides well but there will be ongoing development.

I think at some point it will be getting a Nova C/R conversion. Not the full Nova box they do a set of gears that can be swapped. I think first becomes longer then the rest are much closer. At the moment some of the gaps are a bit much. Quick shifter helps and I still don't think the needles are spot on so I'm sure I'll get it better.

From personal experience, the Nova stuff is spot on, you'll not be disappointed.
I also did this to my 250 as 1st to 2nd was comically long as standard. Even changing at 12k in 1st you dropped out of the power in 2nd. So now 1st is longer, 2nd is shorter as well as 6th. Well worth the effort..

I would consider having a higher first gear made before lashing out on a complete gear set.

For my w/cooled Fahron 430 I had a 33T 1st gear made for £80, same pitch circle as the standard 36T so a straight swop, the difference was unbelievable. I also had a long shaft made for £180 to fit a TZ dry clutch to the modded RD box as the wet clutch would slip no matter what I did to try to cure it, no hassles now. The gearset is now as near to TZ ratios as makes no difference with my motor.

the machining was done by Ellis Moore who does loads of work for the CRMC guys, might be worth considering.

[Biker's Nemesis]

Have you seen these Ryan?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381314886532

[Yazza54]

Biker's Nemesis said:

Have you seen these Ryan?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381314886532

I have... have you seen the price?

It's really nearly there, just not quite right. Dog st after tonights antics!!! But no point putting the others back in.

[Yazza54]

Tom Logan said:

Steve Bass said:

Yazza54 said:

Cheers Steve, it rides well but there will be ongoing development.

I think at some point it will be getting a Nova C/R conversion. Not the full Nova box they do a set of gears that can be swapped. I think first becomes longer then the rest are much closer. At the moment some of the gaps are a bit much. Quick shifter helps and I still don't think the needles are spot on so I'm sure I'll get it better.

From personal experience, the Nova stuff is spot on, you'll not be disappointed.
I also did this to my 250 as 1st to 2nd was comically long as standard. Even changing at 12k in 1st you dropped out of the power in 2nd. So now 1st is longer, 2nd is shorter as well as 6th. Well worth the effort..

I would consider having a higher first gear made before lashing out on a complete gear set.

For my w/cooled Fahron 430 I had a 33T 1st gear made for £80, same pitch circle as the standard 36T so a straight swop, the difference was unbelievable. I also had a long shaft made for £180 to fit a TZ dry clutch to the modded RD box as the wet clutch would slip no matter what I did to try to cure it, no hassles now. The gearset is now as near to TZ ratios as makes no difference with my motor.

the machining was done by Ellis Moore who does loads of work for the CRMC guys, might be worth considering.

I've spoken to ellis Moore before, to be honest the nova kit isn't that expensive. It's the gaps between 2nd - 3rd, 3rd- 4th that are a bit wide. The longer first is just a bonus with the kit.