Racing Silly Season - Who is going where in 2014?

Racing Silly Season - Who is going where in 2014?

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Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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I'm going to stick my neck out here

I don't think Millers style or temperament will see him do well in Moto Gp

To put him in that class without foregoing Moto2 would be fking mental


theshrew

6,008 posts

185 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Watched some interviews from bsb riders last night. Josh Brookes hoping for Wsb ride.


Lincsblokey

3,175 posts

156 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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FourWheelDrift said:
Twits alive with rumours that contracts have been signed with Jack Miller moving to a MotoGP Honda next year believed to be the LCR bike currently being ridden by Bradl. And that Maverick Vinales has signed on to MotoGP with Suzuki.
It wont be a full fat RCV, it will be one of the new proddy RCV's, Crutchlow has first refusal on that bike of bradls (as he does on the one remaining suzuki seat)

Shrewd move by vinales, but he has now pissed Honda management off for the second time.

Depsite all Repsols pushing, he wont ever get a chance with HRC now.

As for miller, that will only end one way.... (well, 2, given the huge financial penalty he would have had to pay to get out the MVDS contract!)

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Fleegle said:
I'm going to stick my neck out here

I don't think Millers style or temperament will see him do well in Moto Gp

To put him in that class without foregoing Moto2 would be fking mental
Didn't you and others say the same about Marquez? Something about him high siding himself to the moon and being taught a lesson by those who've been riding the big bikes for a while.

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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LoonR1 said:
Fleegle said:
I'm going to stick my neck out here

I don't think Millers style or temperament will see him do well in Moto Gp

To put him in that class without foregoing Moto2 would be fking mental
Didn't you and others say the same about Marquez? Something about him high siding himself to the moon and being taught a lesson by those who've been riding the big bikes for a while.
Yep, and will be the first to admit I was a mile off and I have been surprised how easy he makes it look

That doesn't alter my view on Miller though.

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

228 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Fleegle said:
Yep, and will be the first to admit I was a mile off and I have been surprised how easy he makes it look

That doesn't alter my view on Miller though.
Think I was perhaps eating a slice of the same humble pie as you on that one. Can't deny his performance.

And I'm with you on Miller too.

Lincsblokey

3,175 posts

156 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Fleegle said:
LoonR1 said:
Fleegle said:
I'm going to stick my neck out here

I don't think Millers style or temperament will see him do well in Moto Gp

To put him in that class without foregoing Moto2 would be fking mental
Didn't you and others say the same about Marquez? Something about him high siding himself to the moon and being taught a lesson by those who've been riding the big bikes for a while.
Yep, and will be the first to admit I was a mile off and I have been surprised how easy he makes it look

That doesn't alter my view on Miller though.
You simply cannot go from a 70bhp 85kg moto3 bike to a 150kg 270bhp motogp bike in one fell swoop, look how the moto3 riders (largely) struggle to adapt to 140kg/140bhp moto2 bikes in their first year, now imagine those struggles when your learning carbon brakes, advanced electronic stratagies, completely new tyres and everything else.

It will end up with miller in orbit every day of the week, and tbh im amazed at the whole thing, he hasnt shown that much more than anyone else in M3 this year, in fact for me vinales (issac) has been just as impressive and Rins & Marquez (especially AM) have been the most impressive, given they have developed a completely new bike, and got it winning.

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Lincsblokey said:
Fleegle said:
LoonR1 said:
Fleegle said:
I'm going to stick my neck out here

I don't think Millers style or temperament will see him do well in Moto Gp

To put him in that class without foregoing Moto2 would be fking mental
Didn't you and others say the same about Marquez? Something about him high siding himself to the moon and being taught a lesson by those who've been riding the big bikes for a while.
Yep, and will be the first to admit I was a mile off and I have been surprised how easy he makes it look

That doesn't alter my view on Miller though.
You simply cannot go from a 70bhp 85kg moto3 bike to a 150kg 270bhp motogp bike in one fell swoop, look how the moto3 riders (largely) struggle to adapt to 140kg/140bhp moto2 bikes in their first year, now imagine those struggles when your learning carbon brakes, advanced electronic stratagies, completely new tyres and everything else.

It will end up with miller in orbit every day of the week, and tbh im amazed at the whole thing, he hasnt shown that much more than anyone else in M3 this year, in fact for me vinales (issac) has been just as impressive and Rins & Marquez (especially AM) have been the most impressive, given they have developed a completely new bike, and got it winning.
Agree with you. Having started the season with the best package, he's not exactly been walking away with it. Marquez and Rins are making him work for it

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

228 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Strange thing is... a Team manager must disagree with us all to even consider giving JM a MotoGP contract !

Pkh72

1,517 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Or a big fat Dorna check to help get an Aussie on a better bike on the Motogp grid.

Apriliaer

848 posts

159 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Lincsblokey said:
It wont be a full fat RCV, it will be one of the new proddy RCV's, Crutchlow has first refusal on that bike of bradls (as he does on the one remaining suzuki seat)

Shrewd move by vinales, but he has now pissed Honda management off for the second time.

Depsite all Repsols pushing, he wont ever get a chance with HRC now.

As for miller, that will only end one way.... (well, 2, given the huge financial penalty he would have had to pay to get out the MVDS contract!)
Where is your source reference Bradl's bike? I could maybe see the Suzuki thing now Dovi has supposedly decided to stay for 2015.

I'd be surprised if Crutchlow's stock is that high at the moment - he's not even getting bits on the Ducati that Ianonne is; possibly Ducati hope that he'll leave?

I'd love to see JM on a MotoGP bike - no reason it would be a disaster.

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Dovisioso signed for another 2 years with Ducati.

Turn7

23,622 posts

222 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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And Miller now confirmed with HRC....

Bizaare.

Chipchap

2,590 posts

198 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Turn7 said:
And Miller now confirmed with HRC....

Bizaare.
Where did you see / read that ?

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Julian Ryder saying good sources saying Miller has signed a 3 year HRC deal, first 2 with LCR.

egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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FourWheelDrift said:
Julian Ryder saying good sources saying Miller has signed a 3 year HRC deal, first 2 with LCR.
Brave move by honda i'd of thought they'd of gone for rabat or marquez jnr, a all spanish line up would please repsol i guess.

We're in for quite a exciting time in the next few years aren't we as all the factory teams search for the there own marquez.

I'd like to see what Rabat could do on a ducati, he seems the right type of rider who works away at solving the problem rather than constantly moaning.

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

228 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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FourWheelDrift said:
Julian Ryder saying good sources saying Miller has signed a 3 year HRC deal, first 2 with LCR.
Wonder if Bradl reads Ryder's Tweets ?? biggrin: Funny way to find you're out of a ride, or is it a Moto2 entry?

DuraAce

4,240 posts

161 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Looking forward to next season already. I think it's great that some young blood is coming into the sport.

Turn7

23,622 posts

222 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Cal aslo confirmed with career killers.....

obscene

5,174 posts

186 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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sprinter1050 said:
Wonder if Bradl reads Ryder's Tweets ?? biggrin: Funny way to find you're out of a ride, or is it a Moto2 entry?
I recall seeing LCR are trying to have a two bike team but I could well be wrong. I'm hoping Scott Redding gets a better ride frown