CBTand buying a Desmo

CBTand buying a Desmo

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Hooli

32,278 posts

199 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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SteveSteveson said:
Also, whilst looking for other things called Desmo I found this comment about the ducati scooter that was round a few years back:

"A Ducati scooter. No Desmo. A perfectly good waste of inherently defective electrical everything."

rofl
Worth another rofl

daimatt

799 posts

234 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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I don't get this obsession with chicken strip size. I understand where you are coming from to a degree, but to me it's more that you are saying sports bikes shouldn't be on the road.
I can get my strips down to a centimetre on the road but I wouldn't say that's safe riding, on a track I can get rid of them all but that's a different thing. If I turn up on my CBR do I get accepted because I have no chicken strips, and if I turn up on my 996 to I get abuse because I have 1" strips? I'm the same person but my use of the bike changes peoples views of my riding and ownership. It's a new bike to me and I haven't taken it on track yet, but just by looking at the bike you won't know that. Seems a bit silly to me.

RemaL

24,967 posts

233 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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So has the OP replied to this yet

GTIR

24,741 posts

265 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Oh this again.

The usual "Chicken strips, what's the big deal" = I have massive chicken strips. blah blah blah.

I say buy the fking Desmo, whatever that is, and be done with it.
"It" being your life because you will die. It's a given. yes

theshrew

6,008 posts

183 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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RemaL said:
So has the OP replied to this yet
He's been to test ride a Desmo - last seen at the doctors with a strange ringing sound in his ears :-)

That may or may not be true


v60marko

1,048 posts

178 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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duggan said:
Hello

A few questions for the masses - appreciate your help:

1.) I have a driving liicence pre 2000 - from what I've read that means I only require a DAS to get mobile? Does that mean I don't have to CBT? And hence it's a week to get a licence?

2.) What buyers tips do I need when buying a Desmo?

Thanks.
As far as I am aware, you need to do your CBT - no big deal, it's only 2 days and a part of the DAS package that you will book yourself in for.

Buyers tips I can not offer. But to reiterate what others have said, a Desmo is probably not a great bike to learn to ride on. But it all depends what you want the Desmo for - if you just want to pose on it and go fast as fk in a straight line, do it, if you can get insured. If you want to learn to ride a bike properly, buy the Desmo, stick it in your garage for now, and get something a little less extreme / less painful to crash to learn on for a year or so.



LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Fleegle, me and BN were out on track with a guy on a Desmo last year and it wasn't that impressive in a straight line compared to a 2005 R1 being ridden by the others. Hell even I managed to overtake it. Once.

Fleegle

16,688 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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LoonR1 said:
Fleegle, me and BN were out on track with a guy on a Desmo last year and it wasn't that impressive in a straight line compared to a 2005 R1 being ridden by the others. Hell even I managed to overtake it. Once.
Yeah, but his rear tyre kept spinning 2mm on his rim so I can understand why he wasn't up to speed.

What I didn't understand was why the queen kept blocking the exit

bass gt3

10,186 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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LoonR1 said:
Fleegle, me and BN were out on track with a guy on a Desmo last year and it wasn't that impressive in a straight line compared to a 2005 R1 being ridden by the others. Hell even I managed to overtake it. Once.
I don't know where this impression that Desmo's are some MGP wannabe rocket ship. They only make around 155bhp so not exactly mega power.
However, the motor is effectively a big bang configuration so much like the latest yam R1 they have a fantastic throttle to rear wheel connection.
The chassis however is superb once ride of the nasty standard Bridgestones.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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duggan said:
Hello

A few questions for the masses - appreciate your help:

1.) I have a driving liicence pre 2000 - from what I've read that means I only require a DAS to get mobile? Does that mean I don't have to CBT? And hence it's a week to get a licence?

2.) What buyers tips do I need when buying a Desmo?

Thanks.
1) Yes. DAS. Unless you're young in which case you'll have to wait in any instance.

2) Deep pockets, and an ability to put up with everybody having an opinion.

Best of luck.

George29

14,706 posts

163 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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LoonR1 said:
Fleegle, me and BN were out on track with a guy on a Desmo last year and it wasn't that impressive in a straight line compared to a 2005 R1 being ridden by the others. Hell even I managed to overtake it. Once.
This one?



I was on track with it at Cadwell. I got past easily enough on my little 600.

v60marko

1,048 posts

178 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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George29 said:
This one?



I was on track with it at Cadwell. I got past easily enough on my little 600.
All that money on a Desmo and the number board looks like its been drawn on with tip ex and a marker pen

Fleegle

16,688 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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v60marko said:
George29 said:
This one?



I was on track with it at Cadwell. I got past easily enough on my little 600.
All that money on a Desmo and the number board looks like its been drawn on with tip ex and a marker pen
Nope, not that one. The bloke on our day would have built a garage at Cadwell especially for it

duggan

Original Poster:

909 posts

247 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Sorry for the late reply – have had a busy day. Thanks to all for the replies/ribbing/banter etc.

So first up I am talking about a Ducati Desmosedici RR. I’ve always been a car man through and through, but picked up a bike mag a while ago saw a Desmo and loved the looks. Then made the fateful mistake of watching a few YouTube videos and doing a bit or research and that was me hooked.

So combination of how it looks, how it sounds and the history if how it came about makes me just want to get one.

I also think it’ll be a reasonable investment, given:

1.) they’re unlikely to make a bike like that for the road again
2.) it really is an ultimate bike (like the F1 to cars)
3.) I feel bikes just haven’t caught up with cars on the appreciation curve (appreciate there is a more limited market, 1,500 were made etc - but significant bikes seem undervalued)

….well, that’s what I’ve told Mrs Duggan…

So, naturally, the first step is to get a licence – hence the question

I’ve also checked into insurance and there are other specialist brokers who’ll cover me – mid four figures on a few calls to them recently

Then it’s a case of getting one – prices seem to vary from 30-39k with 800-10,000 miles and only other spec differences seem to be the GP exhaust (I think this was an optional extra?) and/or the 17inch rear wheel (for tyre choice). Am fully aware that a limited carbon fibre clad is going to be expensive to repair – need to make sure I don’t drop/crash it. Would be good to hear if anyone has any other tips/things to look out for and also will be speaking to the professionals when finding the right one.

I was also looking at getting another bike (as advised by a few of you – thanks), as want to keep the miles down on the Desmo & to give me an easier ride to experience – was thinking 749R/999R.

And I would be one of those c0cks with chicken strips, but hey, we all had to start somewhere biggrin

PS – CBT now booked for next weekend and will be speaking to them about DAS/timelines – journey starts here!

v60marko

1,048 posts

178 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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duggan said:
Sorry for the late reply – have had a busy day. Thanks to all for the replies/ribbing/banter etc.

So first up I am talking about a Ducati Desmosedici RR. I’ve always been a car man through and through, but picked up a bike mag a while ago saw a Desmo and loved the looks. Then made the fateful mistake of watching a few YouTube videos and doing a bit or research and that was me hooked.

So combination of how it looks, how it sounds and the history if how it came about makes me just want to get one.

I also think it’ll be a reasonable investment, given:

1.) they’re unlikely to make a bike like that for the road again
2.) it really is an ultimate bike (like the F1 to cars)
3.) I feel bikes just haven’t caught up with cars on the appreciation curve (appreciate there is a more limited market, 1,500 were made etc - but significant bikes seem undervalued)

….well, that’s what I’ve told Mrs Duggan…

So, naturally, the first step is to get a licence – hence the question

I’ve also checked into insurance and there are other specialist brokers who’ll cover me – mid four figures on a few calls to them recently

Then it’s a case of getting one – prices seem to vary from 30-39k with 800-10,000 miles and only other spec differences seem to be the GP exhaust (I think this was an optional extra?) and/or the 17inch rear wheel (for tyre choice). Am fully aware that a limited carbon fibre clad is going to be expensive to repair – need to make sure I don’t drop/crash it. Would be good to hear if anyone has any other tips/things to look out for and also will be speaking to the professionals when finding the right one.

I was also looking at getting another bike (as advised by a few of you – thanks), as want to keep the miles down on the Desmo & to give me an easier ride to experience – was thinking 749R/999R.

And I would be one of those c0cks with chicken strips, but hey, we all had to start somewhere biggrin

PS – CBT now booked for next weekend and will be speaking to them about DAS/timelines – journey starts here!
Good on you man... Pics when you have it biggrin

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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duggan said:
And I would be one of those c0cks with chicken strips, but hey, we all had to start somewhere
Chicken strips are perfectly acceptable unless you have an expensive bike. Apparently. wink

Pics when you have it mate.


sc0tt

18,032 posts

200 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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duggan said:
Sorry for the late reply – have had a busy day. Thanks to all for the replies/ribbing/banter etc.

So first up I am talking about a Ducati Desmosedici RR. I’ve always been a car man through and through, but picked up a bike mag a while ago saw a Desmo and loved the looks. Then made the fateful mistake of watching a few YouTube videos and doing a bit or research and that was me hooked.

So combination of how it looks, how it sounds and the history if how it came about makes me just want to get one.

I also think it’ll be a reasonable investment, given:

1.) they’re unlikely to make a bike like that for the road again
2.) it really is an ultimate bike (like the F1 to cars)
3.) I feel bikes just haven’t caught up with cars on the appreciation curve (appreciate there is a more limited market, 1,500 were made etc - but significant bikes seem undervalued)

….well, that’s what I’ve told Mrs Duggan…

So, naturally, the first step is to get a licence – hence the question

I’ve also checked into insurance and there are other specialist brokers who’ll cover me – mid four figures on a few calls to them recently

Then it’s a case of getting one – prices seem to vary from 30-39k with 800-10,000 miles and only other spec differences seem to be the GP exhaust (I think this was an optional extra?) and/or the 17inch rear wheel (for tyre choice). Am fully aware that a limited carbon fibre clad is going to be expensive to repair – need to make sure I don’t drop/crash it. Would be good to hear if anyone has any other tips/things to look out for and also will be speaking to the professionals when finding the right one.

I was also looking at getting another bike (as advised by a few of you – thanks), as want to keep the miles down on the Desmo & to give me an easier ride to experience – was thinking 749R/999R.

And I would be one of those c0cks with chicken strips, but hey, we all had to start somewhere biggrin

PS – CBT now booked for next weekend and will be speaking to them about DAS/timelines – journey starts here!
Good stuff.

Now you see where I backed you up earlier, can I have a go mister. Please.

Fleegle

16,688 posts

175 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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duggan said:
stuff
I have to ask - are you okay now?

It has nothing to do with your bike choice, but while I was making sure you wasn't a troll I came across a post about your accident last year. Sounds horrific.

George29

14,706 posts

163 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Fleegle said:
Nope, not that one. The bloke on our day would have built a garage at Cadwell especially for it
hehe

Good to see at least a couple of different Desmos being tracked though!

LoonR1

26,988 posts

176 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Fleegle said:
Yeah, but his rear tyre kept spinning 2mm on his rim so I can understand why he wasn't up to speed.

What I didn't understand was why the queen kept blocking the exit
Good point, it no doubt made it unrideable wink

It was his garage and we all had to admire the bike, It was funny when he stopped talking to us after BN stuffed it up the inside of him on both his Desmo and the racebike he wheeled out just after. biggrin