Genuine visor Vs aftermarket visor

[RemaL]

Ok looking at a new visor for my new Arai Rx7 GP. visorshop want about £50 for a new dark visor but some aftermakret one's on Ebay are £20-25.

Now I understand paying a lot of money for a lid then putting a cheap visor on does seem to be a bit daft, BUT does a non genuine visor mean it's not going to do the same job? fit as well? or protect your eyes from stones etc...

i know they will not be 100% the same but thought it was worth asking


Example:
this
http://www.racevisors.co.uk/product/arai-helmet-vi...
vs this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171147307218?ssPageName=...

[J B L]

My experience: my Raid 2's genuine clear visor is perfect whilst the aftermarket dark one whistles depending on the angle of my head / wind being deflected by the screen. The fit at the bottom of the visor is not as flush as the OE.

Doesn't matter on track and twisties but can be a pain on straights, when touring for example.

[sjtscott]

I've always considered that the visor besides blocking the wind also provides an element of eye protection from flying crap be it stones, bugs etc. i.e. a confirmed tested acceptable level of impact protection by the manufacturer themselves for the visors they sell. I guess in a similar line of thinking the light/uv reduction properties of darker visors genuine vs aftermarket - I guess much in the same way to real or fake sunglasses.

Each to their own of course. If you have one of the best brand helmets in the world and want to add a cheap non genuine accessory then go ahead.

[Prof Prolapse]

Just remove the old visor and get some translucent tape and cover the cavity.

Be careful not to be surprised by anything though, or you may inadvertently remove your eyebrows.

[Pothole]

sjtscott said:

I've always considered that the visor besides blocking the wind also provides an element of eye protection from flying crap be it stones, bugs etc. i.e. a confirmed tested acceptable level of impact protection by the manufacturer themselves for the visors they sell. I guess in a similar line of thinking the light/uv reduction properties of darker visors genuine vs aftermarket - I guess much in the same way to real or fake sunglasses.

Each to their own of course. If you have one of the best brand helmets in the world and want to add a cheap non genuine accessory then go ahead.

This is just a customised version of the £100 helmet = £100 head non-argument, isn't it? Apart from anything else, I can't remember anything harder than a bee hitting my visor in 30+ years of road riding.

If the aftermarket visor has the kite marks it needs to be legal, I can't see much of a risk.

Can you, in fact, or are you just being overcautious and not thinking about it rationally?

[RizzoTheRat]

Pothole said:

I can't remember anything harder than a bee hitting my visor in 30+ years of road riding.

I've got a couple of stone chips in mine.

[sjtscott]

Pothole said:

sjtscott said:

I've always considered that the visor besides blocking the wind also provides an element of eye protection from flying crap be it stones, bugs etc. i.e. a confirmed tested acceptable level of impact protection by the manufacturer themselves for the visors they sell. I guess in a similar line of thinking the light/uv reduction properties of darker visors genuine vs aftermarket - I guess much in the same way to real or fake sunglasses.

Each to their own of course. If you have one of the best brand helmets in the world and want to add a cheap non genuine accessory then go ahead.

This is just a customised version of the £100 helmet = £100 head non-argument, isn't it? Apart from anything else, I can't remember anything harder than a bee hitting my visor in 30+ years of road riding.

If the aftermarket visor has the kite marks it needs to be legal, I can't see much of a risk.

Can you, in fact, or are you just being overcautious and not thinking about it rationally?

I've had a f**k off big rock hit mine - genuine shoei - tested personally so I know it works. Visor survived with just a mark.
My visors pick up stone chips over time I'm not imagining things. I ride all year, there is a lot more crap on the roads in winter time generally.
Sorry only 17years riding for me and just 13 year round commuting.

[PearcyK5]

I've previously ordered an aftermarket dark visor for my AGV but the fit was nowhere near as good as the genuine clear visor and the quality was inferior. I found the aftermarket visor to be more flimsy so I expect the protection wouldn't be as good. I returned the visor the next day and replaced it with a genuine one which has been flawless

[RemaL]

after so little posts seems people are already missing this bit

"BUT does a non genuine visor mean it's not going to do the same job? fit as well? or protect your eyes from stones etc..."

was a simple question" but already forgot. seems other miss the comment about daft getting a cheap visor for a expensive helmet part as well

I will ensure i try and make the question simple. Prob my mistake

Genuine visor Vs aftermarket visor: Quality vs price. Does a genuine visor provide better protection, fit etc.. than a aftermarket one?

Edited by RemaL on Tuesday 21st January 18:24

[RemaL]

PearcyK5 said:

I've previously ordered an aftermarket dark visor for my AGV but the fit was nowhere near as good as the genuine clear visor and the quality was inferior. I found the aftermarket visor to be more flimsy so I expect the protection wouldn't be as good. I returned the visor the next day and replaced it with a genuine one which has been flawless

great to see someone has get the idea about my question for example

[RemaL]

RizzoTheRat said:

Pothole said:

I can't remember anything harder than a bee hitting my visor in 30+ years of road riding.

I've got a couple of stone chips in mine.

having driven many miles in my windscreen less kit car on the motorway I can confirm fly's, rain and small stone's hurt like hell do a lid and visor do take a battering

[PearcyK5]

RemaL said:

great to see someone has get the idea about my question

[Yazza54]

I've got one of theirs on mine and it's been fine. Happy with the value for money, changed it when my original one got shattered.. fitted fine, okay impact is something that you kinda don't know till it's too late but it's had plenty of stones hit it with no probs.

[RemaL]

Yazza54 said:

I've got one of theirs on mine and it's been fine. Happy with the value for money, changed it when my original one got shattered.. fitted fine, okay impact is something that you kinda don't know till it's too late but it's had plenty of stones hit it with no probs.

One of theirs as in racescreens?

[moanthebairns]

I got an aftermarket one from racevisors......not ebay......it was fine, crashed with it still works didn't fit quite but was half the price.

unless the closing speed of a stone and yourself is something biblical I would be hugely surprised if a visor would shatter let alone result in injury to yourself. I say that as a man who used to be a material tester and would test things similar to these to destruction.

[sjtscott]

RemaL said:

after so little posts seems people are already missing this bit

"BUT does a non genuine visor mean it's not going to do the same job? fit as well? or protect your eyes from stones etc..."

was a simple question" but already forgot. seems other miss the comment about daft getting a cheap visor for a expensive helmet part as well

I will ensure i try and make the question simple. Prob my mistake

Genuine visor Vs aftermarket visor: Quality vs price. Does a genuine visor provide better protection, fit etc.. than a aftermarket one?

Edited by RemaL on Tuesday 21st January 18:24

How long is a piece of string? You can only try one and find out for yourself if you are are happy. I've looked at plenty non genuine visors at plenty of bike shows for my shoeis in my earlier years of biking when I needed to watch the pennies more, these were no where close to the same build quality/fit as the genuine ones. This is the sort of crap you'll end up buying blind off ebay.
I don't necessarily have a problem with a decent aftermarket one that meets the safety standards just my personal choice is to buy genuine ones.
For clarity http://www.bobheathvisors.co.uk/visors/stocklist.p...

I could understand your argument more if you'd not bought an Arai, seems illogical to buy one and then fit a visor lol
I know many people don't necessarily have a ton of spare cash to throw around but for the sake of 25-30 quid difference?

Maybe we need a sharp style rating system for aftermarket visors to start a new argument on here LOL

Edited by sjtscott on Tuesday 21st January 18:52

[Yazza54]

RemaL said:

Yazza54 said:

I've got one of theirs on mine and it's been fine. Happy with the value for money, changed it when my original one got shattered.. fitted fine, okay impact is something that you kinda don't know till it's too late but it's had plenty of stones hit it with no probs.

One of theirs as in racescreens?

Aye

[Biker's Nemesis]

I have always (when possible) bought aftermarket visors, I have crashed with them had road rage fisty cuffs at the side of the road and been hit by countless stones at over 150 mph on the road.

[RemaL]

sjtscott said:

RemaL said:

after so little posts seems people are already missing this bit

"BUT does a non genuine visor mean it's not going to do the same job? fit as well? or protect your eyes from stones etc..."

was a simple question" but already forgot. seems other miss the comment about daft getting a cheap visor for a expensive helmet part as well

I will ensure i try and make the question simple. Prob my mistake

Genuine visor Vs aftermarket visor: Quality vs price. Does a genuine visor provide better protection, fit etc.. than a aftermarket one?

Edited by RemaL on Tuesday 21st January 18:24

How long is a piece of string? You can only try one and find out for yourself if you are are happy. I've looked at plenty non genuine visors at plenty of bike shows for my shoeis in my earlier years of biking when I needed to watch the pennies more, these were no where close to the same build quality/fit as the genuine ones. This is the sort of crap you'll end up buying blind off ebay.
I don't necessarily have a problem with a decent aftermarket one that meets the safety standards just my personal choice is to buy genuine ones.

I could understand your argument more if you'd not bought an Arai, seems illogical to buy one and then fit a visor lol
I know many people don't necessarily have a ton of spare cash to throw around but for the sake of 25-30 quid difference?

Maybe we need a sharp style rating system for aftermarket visors to start a new argument on here LOL

in my second post i meant to say it was meant to be less about buy a expensive lid and cheap visor and more about the pro#s and cons of Genuine Vs aftermarket

[sjtscott]

RemaL said:

sjtscott said:

RemaL said:

after so little posts seems people are already missing this bit

"BUT does a non genuine visor mean it's not going to do the same job? fit as well? or protect your eyes from stones etc..."

was a simple question" but already forgot. seems other miss the comment about daft getting a cheap visor for a expensive helmet part as well

I will ensure i try and make the question simple. Prob my mistake

Genuine visor Vs aftermarket visor: Quality vs price. Does a genuine visor provide better protection, fit etc.. than a aftermarket one?

Edited by RemaL on Tuesday 21st January 18:24

How long is a piece of string? You can only try one and find out for yourself if you are are happy. I've looked at plenty non genuine visors at plenty of bike shows for my shoeis in my earlier years of biking when I needed to watch the pennies more, these were no where close to the same build quality/fit as the genuine ones. This is the sort of crap you'll end up buying blind off ebay.
I don't necessarily have a problem with a decent aftermarket one that meets the safety standards just my personal choice is to buy genuine ones.

I could understand your argument more if you'd not bought an Arai, seems illogical to buy one and then fit a visor lol
I know many people don't necessarily have a ton of spare cash to throw around but for the sake of 25-30 quid difference?

Maybe we need a sharp style rating system for aftermarket visors to start a new argument on here LOL

in my second post i meant to say it was meant to be less about buy a expensive lid and cheap visor and more about the pro#s and cons of Genuine Vs aftermarket

Sure understood, how about you make a poll to ask the masses?