A picture a day....biker banter (Vol 3)

[Mr OCD]

Shadow R1 said:

Post the graph up, when its done.

Can you also put the one from the 5vy up (if you are using the same place).

I don't have a standard 5VY graph for comparison... But yeah same place.

[Shadow R1]

Mr OCD said:

I don't have a standard 5VY graph for comparison... But yeah same place.

Fair enough.

[southgate]

I took a punt on some cheap Chinese rearsets for my blade:



These, in black:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261311472685

I'll try to take a pic of them on the bike. No complaints so far. They seem well made, look good, fit well and make the bike nicer to ride.

[scunnylad]

[Biker's Nemesis]

I have seen gains of up to 10bhp on my bikes but what is crucial is the way the fuelling is set up, what you feel when you open the throttle at any given time.

I have seen people bragging about big gains at the top end but when you look at the AFR it is usually all over the place, I have ridden mates bikes that were set up like that and what it translates to is a snatchy throttle response.

You cant beat going to a good Dyno where the operator knows what he is doing and adjusts the fueling every 250rpm or less.

I always ask for good throttle response and to hell with top end power.

[Mr OCD]

southgate said:

I took a punt on some cheap Chinese rearsets for my blade:



These, in black:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261311472685

I'll try to take a pic of them on the bike. No complaints so far. They seem well made, look good, fit well and make the bike nicer to ride.

Look like diamond copies ...

Do take some pictures ... I'm seriously considering so cheap rear sets as can't justify Gilles just get and the riding position on the blade is daft ... Proper high rear sets yet three inch hero blobs ... Lol

[Mr OCD]

Biker's Nemesis said:

I have seen gains of up to 10bhp on my bikes but what is crucial is the way the fuelling is set up, what you feel when you open the throttle at any given time.

I have seen people bragging about big gains at the top end but when you look at the AFR it is usually all over the place, I have ridden mates bikes that were set up like that and what it translates to is a snatchy throttle response.

You cant beat going to a good Dyno where the operator knows what he is doing and adjusts the fueling every 250rpm or less.

I always ask for good throttle response and to hell with top end power.

As I've been told before it's not the max figure but the way the bike makes power under the curve ... This one is going for max torque and throttle response again just like my R1 did ...

[Yazza54]

I haven't, I just doubt honda produced a bike with such a st exhaust can and mapping that Scott Davis of kearsley can add on a few bits and make 15hp.

Edited by Yazza54 on Tuesday 27th January 20:11

[Biker's Nemesis]

Mr OCD said:

As I've been told before it's not the max figure but the way the bike makes power under the curve ... This one is going for max torque and throttle response again just like my R1 did ...

Did someone mention that to you.

[Mr OCD]

Biker's Nemesis said:

Did someone mention that to you.

Yeah... Some old man...

[Mr OCD]

Yazza54 said:

I haven't, I just doubt honda produced a bike with such a st exhaust can and mapping that Scott Davis of kearsley can add on a few bits and make 15hp. You're right it does sound ridiculous.

Edited by Yazza54 on Tuesday 27th January 20:10

As I said ... I don't believe it myself mate but this is what people have found tuning these bikes ... In all honesty I don't really care - I just want a smooth bike because if I cant get this fueling sorted properly then I'm selling it in spring and buying a Yamaha.

[Yazza54]

Mr OCD said:

Yazza54 said:

I haven't, I just doubt honda produced a bike with such a st exhaust can and mapping that Scott Davis of kearsley can add on a few bits and make 15hp. You're right it does sound ridiculous.

Edited by Yazza54 on Tuesday 27th January 20:10

As I said ... I don't believe it myself mate but this is what people have found tuning these bikes ... In all honesty I don't really care - I just want a smooth bike because if I cant get this fueling sorted properly then I'm selling it in spring and buying a Yamaha.

Now you're talking sense

[Biker's Nemesis]

Mr OCD said:

Biker's Nemesis said:

Did someone mention that to you.

Yeah... Some old man...

You're no spring chicken yourself.

[Yazza54]

Mr OCD said:

southgate said:

I took a punt on some cheap Chinese rearsets for my blade:



These, in black:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261311472685

I'll try to take a pic of them on the bike. No complaints so far. They seem well made, look good, fit well and make the bike nicer to ride.

Look like diamond copies ...

Do take some pictures ... I'm seriously considering so cheap rear sets as can't justify Gilles just get and the riding position on the blade is daft ... Proper high rear sets yet three inch hero blobs ... Lol

I know I swear against chinky levers, but loads of people have Chinese rearsets. It's one of them things that either works or doesn't, so what could go wrong

Apart from them snapping or something daft!

[scunnylad]

I've got a full akra and PCV on my fireblade and I cant even remember what power it was on the dyno.

It improved the throttle response,which was the main thing,gaining a few extra horses is irrelevant
in real world on the road riding imho

[moanthebairns]

Yazza54 said:

Mr OCD said:

southgate said:

I took a punt on some cheap Chinese rearsets for my blade:



These, in black:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261311472685

I'll try to take a pic of them on the bike. No complaints so far. They seem well made, look good, fit well and make the bike nicer to ride.

Look like diamond copies ...

Do take some pictures ... I'm seriously considering so cheap rear sets as can't justify Gilles just get and the riding position on the blade is daft ... Proper high rear sets yet three inch hero blobs ... Lol

I know I swear against chinky levers, but loads of people have Chinese rearsets. It's one of them things that either works or doesn't, so what could go wrong

Apart from them snapping or something daft!

Even I haven't looked at Chinese levers. I mean it's one thing buying your bird a cheap Chinese cat suit that takes 8 weeks to come, costs half the price and falls apart putting it on. You can't really grumble for 3 quid.

It's another buying a few hundred quid rearset for the track.

[southgate]

moanthebairns said:

buying your bird a cheap Chinese cat suit that takes 8 weeks to come, costs half the price and falls apart putting it on.

Pics man, pics!

[Mr OCD]

Yazza54 said:

I know I swear against chinky levers, but loads of people have Chinese rearsets. It's one of them things that either works or doesn't, so what could go wrong

Apart from them snapping or something daft!

My thoughts as well... Loads of people swear by diamond rear sets ... Yet you can buy EXACTLY the same ones from China for under £100 or £130 from a UK supplier ...

Don't get me wrong my Gilles were just porn ... But £430! fk off ... Lol ...

[Yazza54]

Mr OCD said:

Yazza54 said:

I know I swear against chinky levers, but loads of people have Chinese rearsets. It's one of them things that either works or doesn't, so what could go wrong

Apart from them snapping or something daft!

My thoughts as well... Loads of people swear by diamond rear sets ... Yet you can buy EXACTLY the same ones from China for under £100 or £130 from a UK supplier ...

Don't get me wrong my Gilles were just porn ... But £430! fk off ... Lol ...

Yeah it's just ridiculous. I've bought a fair bit of billet aluminium to have stuff machined and I dare say the Chinese stuff is made from lower grade ally, but even the high quality stuff isn't horrifically expensive, not enough to warrant it being 4x the price.

[clen666]

Biker's Nemesis said:

You cant beat going to a good Dyno where the operator knows what he is doing and adjusts the fueling every 250rpm or less.

I always ask for good throttle response and to hell with top end power.

Who you you go to?