A picture a day....biker banter (Vol 3)
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Tim85 said:
Hooli said:
Looks a daft thing to do. What happened?
he just ran out of talent following me and panicked i guess grabbed a handfull of brake and jumped ship. To be fair it was a terrible corner and we werent even going at a fast rate. i think it was just a costly and very lucky/unlucky cock up. I defintily feel different about riding today than i did when i set off yesterday though. Ive never thought twice about my riding and my safety, ive never run wide on the road or had any instances that really shook me up but now the thought that my riding may have somehow contributed to that has really made me question my road riding. seeing a mate crash is not something i want to repeat however lightly he got off this time it could of been a lot worse. Ill never give up road riding im just having an oestrogen spike ha. im thinking about a couple of smaller engined bikes so that i can feel like im pushing whilst not encouraging my other mates to push themselves. i know its everyones responsibility to look after themselves and not go passed your limits but the fact is if i wasnt going that fast he wouldnt of been either. first time we'd ridden out together.
i was riding too quickly. gunning it everywhere and generally being a hooligan. i was in front and kept having to stop to let the others catch up. mate on thundercat was pushing hard to keep up. lad on the fazer wasn't and refused to ride beyond his comfort zone (the right thing to do looking back).
towards the end of the day my mate on the 'cat decided he wanted to be in front. not long after that he was down the bottom of a ditch with a broken bike and a sore leg. corner tightened, he panicked and froze, bike went straight on.
it made me question how i ride. if i'd taken it steady and we'd put the slowest lad at the front, we'd all have been better off. he wouldn't have felt like we'd disappeared off in front and were getting frustrated at having to stop. we'd have not ended up with a busted up mate and bike. i now only ever give it the beans when i'm on my own. in group riding i chill out.
not helped by plenty of stories from my dad of ride outs he used to go on. some deaths by people trying to keep up with faster bikes/people. putting the slowest at the front was the answer.
I'm not a woe is me type of guy and I don't blame myself but at the same time I know I could of stopped it for the sake of wanting to get a small kick out of plodding along. I think I just forget as well on the r1 cruising along in the middle of the revs in 3/4/5th is probably straining an old bandit.
I know what he's like but won't stop riding with him as he's a good mate. We usually all do our part in keeping him in check.
I need to either get a small engine/powered bike on again so I can feel like I'm pushing on and not tax anyone else or stop being a moaner and deal with it.
I know what he's like but won't stop riding with him as he's a good mate. We usually all do our part in keeping him in check.
I need to either get a small engine/powered bike on again so I can feel like I'm pushing on and not tax anyone else or stop being a moaner and deal with it.
graphene said:
Tim85 said:
I'm not a woe is me type of guy and I don't blame myself but at the same time I know I could of stopped it for the sake of wanting to get a small kick out of plodding along. I think I just forget as well on the r1 cruising along in the middle of the revs in 3/4/5th is probably straining an old bandit.
I know what he's like but won't stop riding with him as he's a good mate. We usually all do our part in keeping him in check.
I need to either get a small engine/powered bike on again so I can feel like I'm pushing on and not tax anyone else or stop being a moaner and deal with it.
In summary: I know what he's like but won't stop riding with him as he's a good mate. We usually all do our part in keeping him in check.
I need to either get a small engine/powered bike on again so I can feel like I'm pushing on and not tax anyone else or stop being a moaner and deal with it.
> I am just too fast on my R1. For the sake of my mates, I need to be slowed down |)
Riding god status achieved!
Seriously, I hope bike is soon fixed, bruises heal etc....
Biker's Nemesis said:
After 4 hours of f
king about this is where I am fitting new handlebars to that Honda. Every fking thing on that bike is a chew on.
I will never own another Honda.
These things take time on bikes that aren't just slapped together king about this is where I am fitting new handlebars to that Honda. Every fking thing on that bike is a chew on.I will never own another Honda.
What's taken so long? You haven't needed to mess with the electronic steering damper? Could you not just drop the forks down through the yokes and pop the clip ons off that way? Why's the top yoke off? (Serious questions - I don't plan to have mine in bits for many years, but the 600RR wasn't pleasant to work on).
3DP said:
These things take time on bikes that aren't just slapped together
What's taken so long? You haven't needed to mess with the electronic steering damper? Could you not just drop the forks down through the yokes and pop the clip ons off that way? Why's the top yoke off? (Serious questions - I don't plan to have mine in bits for many years, but the 600RR wasn't pleasant to work on).
Its 10 times easier to take the top yoke off than dropping the forks, the electronic steering damper is only One bolt.What's taken so long? You haven't needed to mess with the electronic steering damper? Could you not just drop the forks down through the yokes and pop the clip ons off that way? Why's the top yoke off? (Serious questions - I don't plan to have mine in bits for many years, but the 600RR wasn't pleasant to work on).
The centre nut, 2 pinch bolts and 4 handle bar bolts only took 10 minutes.
The standard bars are raised 20 or so mmm so that there is clearance for the bango bolt on the M/CI to clear in the intake tube.
I can't get the bars where I need them, infact I can't get the bars to fit in any position without the brake lever hitting the clocks/intake or the banjo bolt hitting the intake/fairing the other way.
It was worse before I cut the stay off the banjo bolt which stops it turning as you tighten it up.
The M/C reservoir either hits the screen or fairing whatever position you put the bars in.
The bars are adjustable for and aft and are eccentric so you can rotate them up/down and all around.
http://www.harris-performance.com/acatalog/Harris-...
I have dug my Brembo M/C out and will try that tomorrow to see if that offers a bit more Clarence.
I suspect I will have to fit lock stops to this pile of s
tI have fitted dozens of these types of handle bars to many bikes over the years even my 600RR and not had a snag at all.
Every god damn thing about this bike is pissing me off.
Biker's Nemesis said:
3DP said:
These things take time on bikes that aren't just slapped together
What's taken so long? You haven't needed to mess with the electronic steering damper? Could you not just drop the forks down through the yokes and pop the clip ons off that way? Why's the top yoke off? (Serious questions - I don't plan to have mine in bits for many years, but the 600RR wasn't pleasant to work on).
Its 10 times easier to take the top yoke off than dropping the forks, the electronic steering damper is only One bolt.What's taken so long? You haven't needed to mess with the electronic steering damper? Could you not just drop the forks down through the yokes and pop the clip ons off that way? Why's the top yoke off? (Serious questions - I don't plan to have mine in bits for many years, but the 600RR wasn't pleasant to work on).
The centre nut, 2 pinch bolts and 4 handle bar bolts only took 10 minutes.
The standard bars are raised 20 or so mmm so that there is clearance for the bango bolt on the M/CI to clear in the intake tube.
I can't get the bars where I need them, infact I can't get the bars to fit in any position without the brake lever hitting the clocks/intake or the banjo bolt hitting the intake/fairing the other way.
It was worse before I cut the stay off the banjo bolt which stops it turning as you tighten it up.
The M/C reservoir either hits the screen or fairing whatever position you put the bars in.
The bars are adjustable for and aft and are eccentric so you can rotate them up/down and all around.
http://www.harris-performance.com/acatalog/Harris-...
I have dug my Brembo M/C out and will try that tomorrow to see if that offers a bit more Clarence.
I suspect I will have to fit lock stops to this pile of s
tI have fitted dozens of these types of handle bars to many bikes over the years even my 600RR and not had a snag at all.
Every god damn thing about this bike is pissing me off.
Biker's Nemesis said:
Ticking time bomb.
.
No ticking, the later ones are far better and still 4 months manufacturer warranty on it..
Saying that, reading the Aprilia forums and the fact the warranty is about done 'tempted' me to look elsewhere
.You ridden the 2015 R1 yet?
They're pretty good.
Everyone raved about the great handling and steering of the fireblade which is what tempted me, everyone is going for the BMW's and Kawasaki's with all electronic rider aids etc so I just decided to be different and see how many scalps I would be able to claim.
That is still my aim, I am not One for giving up. Sticking it up the Kawasaki and BMW boys is my driving force and after being subdued for the last 3 years due to the last big injury I am gunning for everybody
I just need to get comfortable so I can ride it.
That is still my aim, I am not One for giving up. Sticking it up the Kawasaki and BMW boys is my driving force and after being subdued for the last 3 years due to the last big injury I am gunning for everybody
I just need to get comfortable so I can ride it.
Biker's Nemesis said:
Everyone raved about the great handling and steering of the fireblade which is what tempted me, everyone is going for the BMW's and Kawasaki's with all electronic rider aids etc so I just decided to be different and see how many scalps I would be able to claim.
That is still my aim, I am not One for giving up. Sticking it up the Kawasaki and BMW boys is my driving force and after being subdued for the last 3 years due to the last big injury I am gunning for everybody
I just need to get comfortable so I can ride it.
I'm just confused. You looked pretty well sorted on the r1?That is still my aim, I am not One for giving up. Sticking it up the Kawasaki and BMW boys is my driving force and after being subdued for the last 3 years due to the last big injury I am gunning for everybody
I just need to get comfortable so I can ride it.
13aines said:
Tim85 said:
he just ran out of talent following me and panicked i guess grabbed a handfull of brake and jumped ship. To be fair it was a terrible corner and we werent even going at a fast rate. i think it was just a costly and very lucky/unlucky cock up. I defintily feel different about riding today than i did when i set off yesterday though. Ive never thought twice about my riding and my safety, ive never run wide on the road or had any instances that really shook me up but now the thought that my riding may have somehow contributed to that has really made me question my road riding. seeing a mate crash is not something i want to repeat however lightly he got off this time it could of been a lot worse. Ill never give up road riding im just having an oestrogen spike ha. im thinking about a couple of smaller engined bikes so that i can feel like im pushing whilst not encouraging my other mates to push themselves. i know its everyones responsibility to look after themselves and not go passed your limits but the fact is if i wasnt going that fast he wouldnt of been either.
Sorry to hear about your mates incident, but don't let it put you off, just let the slower guys lead - simple. Then there is no pressure on them to keep up.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Edit; just plodded thru the rest of that thread. Observation skills are at Riding God level tonight.
Note sure about sticking the slow / unpredictable chaps at the front. It can result in a multiple bike incident, far better at the back, learning about speed / position / overtakes but still recognising their own limitations and letting the faster chaps go when the time comes - i.e. switched on using the brain as opposed to the dangly undercarriage.
Edited by moto_traxport on Tuesday 5th May 22:17
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