Interesting Cat & Fiddle Fail

[moanthebairns]

theshrew said:

moanthebairns said:

when I had my crash and the car pulled out infront of me (and I panicked braked and swerved, not proud of that but I did) and I started to stoppy I still remember trying to stick the rear brake on even when it was up in the air.

Id imagine most people would panic brake.

At least you got a bit of style in before you went down the road

I was adamant I could save it, it wasnt till I hit the deck I thought you clown...

[MC Bodge]

moanthebairns said:

I was adamant

Stand and deliver

[Gusto]

'scuse my ignorance, what is comfort braking?

[anonymous-user]

Gusto said:

'scuse my ignorance, what is comfort braking?

Stopping when you need a piss.
Or is that a comfort break? I never can get them the right way round.

[y2blade]

MC Bodge said:

moanthebairns said:

I was adamant

Stand and deliver

Very good

[moanthebairns]

Gusto said:

'scuse my ignorance, what is comfort braking?

using the rear when you dont need to just to "make that corner"

[DrDoofenshmirtz]

WinstonWolf said:

y2blade said:

Kawasicki said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

Haven't we all done this though...run wide on a bend?

I know I have - luckily no damage was done because the car coming the other way swerved out of my way

No. I've never steered out towards the wrong side of the road. I'm not a good rider, but I know how to steer a bike, I thought it might turn out to be handy.

"Haven't we all done this though?"....Honestly, No i have never run wide into the path of oncoming traffic.

I'm with kawasicki on this one.

Yet. You haven't done it yet...

Indeed.
It WILL happen one day...just like when you didn't check the side stand was fully deployed, and you dropped it.

[tezzer]

Greenslade said:

All the gear - no idea. He should thank his lucky stars.

Or even his Alpine Stars.

[y2blade]

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

WinstonWolf said:

y2blade said:

Kawasicki said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

Haven't we all done this though...run wide on a bend?

I know I have - luckily no damage was done because the car coming the other way swerved out of my way

No. I've never steered out towards the wrong side of the road. I'm not a good rider, but I know how to steer a bike, I thought it might turn out to be handy.

"Haven't we all done this though?"....Honestly, No i have never run wide into the path of oncoming traffic.

I'm with kawasicki on this one.

Yet. You haven't done it yet...

Indeed.
It WILL happen one day...just like when you didn't check the side stand was fully deployed, and you dropped it.

I haven't dropped any bikes off the sidestand.

I don't get the "everything is inevitable" attitude at all tbh...it's like the dumbsts that say you WILL crash while learning to wheelie....or you WILL crash if you ride a motorbike....or icing on the cake you WILL die if you ride a motorbike.

Believe it or not people do do these things without crashing/dying.

[WinstonWolf]

y2blade said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

WinstonWolf said:

y2blade said:

Kawasicki said:

DrDoofenshmirtz said:

Haven't we all done this though...run wide on a bend?

I know I have - luckily no damage was done because the car coming the other way swerved out of my way

No. I've never steered out towards the wrong side of the road. I'm not a good rider, but I know how to steer a bike, I thought it might turn out to be handy.

"Haven't we all done this though?"....Honestly, No i have never run wide into the path of oncoming traffic.

I'm with kawasicki on this one.

Yet. You haven't done it yet...

Indeed.
It WILL happen one day...just like when you didn't check the side stand was fully deployed, and you dropped it.

I haven't dropped any bikes off the sidestand.

I don't get the "everything is inevitable" attitude at all tbh...it's like the dumbsts that say you WILL crash while learning to wheelie....or you WILL crash if you ride a motorbike....or icing on the cake you WILL die if you ride a motorbike.

Believe it or not people do do these things without crashing/dying.

Ah, I remember when I was invincible, it was just before I started walking with a limp

[black-k1]

y2blade said:

...or icing on the cake you WILL die if you ride a motorbike.

Believe it or not people do do these things without crashing/dying.

But you will die if you ride a motorbike. It is just a matter of time!

That doesn't mean you will die while riding a motorbike!

I am surprised that anyone can claim they have never run wide in a corner. For all of us doing anything new, learning the limit risks pushing past it at some point and riding fast through bends, especially on the road, is likely, at some point, to find any one one of us carrying a little too much speed into a bend that is not exactly as expected.

Add to that a little bit of target fixation, which human beings get naturally and you have the perfect run wide recipe.

Well done in not having found yourself in such a situation, however, I feel safe in saying that most of us have been there.

Edited by black-k1 on Thursday 27th March 13:41

Edited by black-k1 on Thursday 27th March 13:44

[y2blade]

black-k1 said:

y2blade said:

...or icing on the cake you WILL die if you ride a motorbike.

Believe it or not people do do these things without crashing/dying.

But you will die if you ride a motorbike. It is just a matter of time!

That doesn't mean you will die while riding a motorbike!

I am surprised that anyone can claim they have never run wide in a corner. For all of us doing anything new, learning the limit risks pushing past it at some point and riding fast through bends, especially on the road, is likely, at some point, to find any one one of us carrying a little too much speed into a bend that is not exactly as expected.

Add to that a little bit of target fixation, which human beings get naturally and you have the perfect run wide recipe.

Well done in not having found yourself in such a situation, however, I feel safe in daying that most of us have been there.

Do you mind me asking if you (anyone else feel free to answer too) ever learnt to read the road and how to use/read vanishing points?

[Hooli]

y2blade said:

black-k1 said:

y2blade said:

...or icing on the cake you WILL die if you ride a motorbike.

Believe it or not people do do these things without crashing/dying.

But you will die if you ride a motorbike. It is just a matter of time!

That doesn't mean you will die while riding a motorbike!

I am surprised that anyone can claim they have never run wide in a corner. For all of us doing anything new, learning the limit risks pushing past it at some point and riding fast through bends, especially on the road, is likely, at some point, to find any one one of us carrying a little too much speed into a bend that is not exactly as expected.

Add to that a little bit of target fixation, which human beings get naturally and you have the perfect run wide recipe.

Well done in not having found yourself in such a situation, however, I feel safe in daying that most of us have been there.

Do you mind me asking if you (anyone else feel free to answer too) ever learnt to read the road and how to use/read vanishing points?

I know them things & normally do them ok however I have occasionally just loose concentration & cock up. It's typically at that sort of moment I run wide after just not turning properly.

[theshrew]

y2blade said:

Do you mind me asking if you (anyone else feel free to answer too) ever learnt to read the road and how to use/read vanishing points?

Ive seen the film and got the Primal Scream album does that count ?

Being serious read the road yes even more so since ive been riding a bike, if im honest i have never heard anyone talk about a vanishing point before. How far you can see around a blind corner or something ?

[kenno78]

black-k1 said:

For all of us doing anything new, learning the limit risks pushing past it at some point and riding fast through bends, especially on the road, is likely, at some point

I'm amazed that you feel comfortable pushing the limits on a public road.

[LoonR1]

theshrew said:

Ive seen the film and got the Primal Scream album does that count ?

Being serious read the road yes even more so since ive been riding a bike, if im honest i have never heard anyone talk about a vanishing point before. How far you can see around a blind corner or something ?

You need to come on a ride with us.

[y2blade]

Purity14 said:

y2blade said:

Do you mind me asking if you (anyone else feel free to answer too) ever learnt

When I was on the Stelvio a number of bikers were running wide which has nothing to do with vanishing points.
It solely down to them slowing down to a speed on a corner where the countersteering dynamics change.

I didn't say they did, and yes you are right knowing how to read vanishing points wouldn't prevent them fking up when they are already at low speed and tackling a hairpin....people should practice such techniques.

I was just curious as to weather riders were taught to read the road and how to use/read vanishing points anymore?
When I learnt to ride, these were covered as the basics and go a long way in preventing you entering a corner too hot in the first place.

[black-k1]

y2blade said:

Do you mind me asking if you (anyone else feel free to answer too) ever learnt to read the road and how to use/read vanishing points?

I full understand about reading the road and vanishing points, but, being human, I occasionally make a mistake. For example, when riding in France a few years ago I was riding a very nice section of road through a forest, with one sweeping bend after another. I was judging things really well with smooth in, lots of lean and lots of smooth power out. My smile was almost a mile wide until I came into a left hander that did the first 90 degrees at one radius then the next 90 degrees at a much tighter radius. All I could do was pull the bike over as far as I could, pray and run wide.

Should I have found myself in that situatuon? No.
Was it my poor riding? Yes.
Did I know what I should have done to avoid it? Yes.
Did knowing stop it happening? No!

It doesn't happen often and I work hard on my riding technique to reduce the likelihood of such things happening again but I also expect it will happen again at some point.

[Hooli]

y2blade said:

I was just curious as to weather riders were taught to read the road and how to use/read vanishing points anymore?

No, if your asking about the training I did.
Yes if you include all the stuff I've read before & since then about how to drive/ride properly.

[black-k1]

kenno78 said:

black-k1 said:

For all of us doing anything new, learning the limit risks pushing past it at some point and riding fast through bends, especially on the road, is likely, at some point

I'm amazed that you feel comfortable pushing the limits on a public road.

I don't now but I'm past my indestrctible teens and early 20's and I'm not a noobie who is pushing their limits rather than those of the road or the bike. All of us have been in at least one of those groups (sometimes both) at some point in our riding careers.