Is this too fast for the road?

Is this too fast for the road?

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LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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bass gt3 said:
Can't really see what you're all getting in a twizz about. Yes, passing the cyclist was not cool, but other than that, reminded me of a Foxtrot. Slow, Slow, Quick Quick Slow.
6/10
Agreed

shadylee

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754 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I don't think it's hard to ride as fast as he did,most of us who have moderate experience can press on like this.

But I'm getting old these days and can't be arsed with the bans,ending up in a hedge or over a car bonnet anymore really.

What I thought was worth the risk back when I was 16-21 are very different these days.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Well I'm going to say it. As soon as the decent weather turns up the. I'm off out and will probably ride faster than he did quite frequently. I'll hopefully be a bit safer too, but I'm not criticising him for doing stuff that most of us do a lot.

srob

11,623 posts

239 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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LoonR1 said:
Well I'm going to say it. As soon as the decent weather turns up the. I'm off out and will probably ride faster than he did quite frequently. I'll hopefully be a bit safer too, but I'm not criticising him for doing stuff that most of us do a lot.
I don't doubt that everyone on here has ridden faster than that on the road. Also probably made some worse decisions and mistakes and got away with it by luck.

How many of us have posted them up, proud as punch stating "this is how an RC8 should be ridden" rather than chalking them up to being daft and being thankful to have got away with them though?

Not many!

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

131 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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It's about a time and a place. Hoicking up a mono past a pub in a 30 limit around a kink in the road probably isn't the place. And yes I've consistently ridden at, or faster than that when I shouldn't have, but you get carried away in the moment at times.


bass gt3

10,205 posts

234 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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srob said:
LoonR1 said:
Well I'm going to say it. As soon as the decent weather turns up the. I'm off out and will probably ride faster than he did quite frequently. I'll hopefully be a bit safer too, but I'm not criticising him for doing stuff that most of us do a lot.
I don't doubt that everyone on here has ridden faster than that on the road. Also probably made some worse decisions and mistakes and got away with it by luck.

How many of us have posted them up, proud as punch stating "this is how an RC8 should be ridden" rather than chalking them up to being daft and being thankful to have got away with them though?

Not many!
Agree to both.
Doing it is one thing, squawking about it on YT is quite another.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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bass gt3 said:
srob said:
LoonR1 said:
Well I'm going to say it. As soon as the decent weather turns up the. I'm off out and will probably ride faster than he did quite frequently. I'll hopefully be a bit safer too, but I'm not criticising him for doing stuff that most of us do a lot.
I don't doubt that everyone on here has ridden faster than that on the road. Also probably made some worse decisions and mistakes and got away with it by luck.

How many of us have posted them up, proud as punch stating "this is how an RC8 should be ridden" rather than chalking them up to being daft and being thankful to have got away with them though?

Not many!
Agree to both.
Doing it is one thing, squawking about it on YT is quite another.
Fair points. I won't be videoing it, nor will I be giving it "Look how amazing I am".

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I don't ride, but just out of interest, if he'd've cut one of those corners a little too much and hit one of the residual puddles whilst making progress - presume it's game over?

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Tonsko said:
I don't ride, but just out of interest, if he'd've cut one of those corners a little too much and hit one of the residual puddles whilst making progress - presume it's game over?
No. Contrary to popular belief bikes can go through water without disintegrating.

bass gt3

10,205 posts

234 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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LoonR1 said:
bass gt3 said:
srob said:
LoonR1 said:
Well I'm going to say it. As soon as the decent weather turns up the. I'm off out and will probably ride faster than he did quite frequently. I'll hopefully be a bit safer too, but I'm not criticising him for doing stuff that most of us do a lot.
I don't doubt that everyone on here has ridden faster than that on the road. Also probably made some worse decisions and mistakes and got away with it by luck.

How many of us have posted them up, proud as punch stating "this is how an RC8 should be ridden" rather than chalking them up to being daft and being thankful to have got away with them though?

Not many!
Agree to both.
Doing it is one thing, squawking about it on YT is quite another.
Fair points. I won't be videoing it, nor will I be giving it "Look how amazing I am".
I've got my fair share on video but the fast runs will never see the Internet.
But I do thank the CBRHoonigan for his well timed public service broadcast. I was recently wondering " How do I ride an RC8?"
Now I know. Who'd a thunked it.

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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LoonR1 said:
No. Contrary to popular belief bikes can go through water without disintegrating.
Clearly. But when I hit water at speed in my car I can feel it wiggle as it aquaplanes - was just wondering if on two wheels it becomes a bit more exciting.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Tonsko said:
LoonR1 said:
No. Contrary to popular belief bikes can go through water without disintegrating.
Clearly. But when I hit water at speed in my car I can feel it wiggle as it aquaplanes - was just wondering if on two wheels it becomes a bit more exciting.
A very wet session for me on track admittedly with wets but at much higher pace too.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tFGrgzEqQo

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Ok, ta. Gotta love Oulton smile


LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Tonsko said:
Ok, ta. Gotta love Oulton smile
Bikes will wiggle but it's easy not to die, by the same token aqua planing a bike will have the same outcome as a car.

Fastdruid

8,649 posts

153 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Tonsko said:
Clearly. But when I hit water at speed in my car I can feel it wiggle as it aquaplanes - was just wondering if on two wheels it becomes a bit more exciting.
Not really, bike tyres tend to cut through the water better than the flatter wider car tyres.
That's not to say you can't aquaplane but there is less chance of it.

The wet itself can be rather fun though, I've had some cracking wet rides, just have to be smoother and has a far greater tendency to spin up (which riding 'only' an old 750 I don't normally have to worry about).

sc0tt

18,054 posts

202 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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srob said:
Have you agreed to join the 'let's try and get a reaction' gang?

If you think that riding was anything other than dangerous (and fast doesn't = dangerous) then you've got very different standards for ability than I have. If that cyclist had have gone round one of the countless potholes or puddles (as just one example) it'd have been catastrophic for both. Not many people expect to be buzzed on the same side of the road with a closing speed of 100mph+
Nope. I just particuarly enjoy how everyone suddenly becomes an IAM observer from their armchairs.


s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Some movements I there where I'm thinking 'blimey'. Too fast over one or two blind crests where there are junctions over the top, same on some left handers, the bike, too close for that closing speed and the wheelie is asking for trouble.

His pace, per se, I don't have an issue with as it's generally not interacting with others, but where it does so, or could do so, that's where he will get himself in a host of problems.

Trying to hard to impress the internet, or just a bad rider, time, plod and a and e will maybe tell!

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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sc0tt said:
Nope. I just particuarly enjoy how everyone suddenly becomes an IAM observer from their armchairs.
You hardly needed to be an IAM observer to see that was a stupid thing to do. The bottom line is don't post videos of yourself doing stupid things if you don't want people to criticise it.

StuB

6,695 posts

240 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Good to see that there is some con census toward 'speed' & 'fast' versus 'safe' & 'un-necessary risk' amongst us. There is clear distinction for most of us it seems.

Tell you what, I actually think (not in provocative mode) this IS useful as it's none of us so ego's less dented and bruised, we can align perception/expectation more critique ing this and it's not about right & wrong but we sure as hell need to keep learning. I like the comments about observation, perception of a line (safe with visibility is not the same as quickest always, which is important when in a 'ride out', to know who does what & if someone does back off, they will have seen something you haven't etc.) and position/proximity. Also interesting for those progressing up the scale of skill/speed, what quicker riding requires etc..

As Steve said, thanks for the public service God of the KTM RC8, whom I'm sure will be a contender for a Darwin sooner or later.

If any Squires 'locals' fancy a run out, get in touch. North & East Yorks & North Lincs are fab.

I'll defo try to make some of the Northen Monkies runs too.

Tim85

1,742 posts

136 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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LoonR1 said:
Well I'm going to say it. As soon as the decent weather turns up the. I'm off out and will probably ride faster than he did quite frequently. I'll hopefully be a bit safer too, but I'm not criticising him for doing stuff that most of us do a lot.
I think that goes for most of us on here. What i will say is that i wont be going that fast on those particular roads and especially not through villages.

I enjoy seeing people tide fast even lairy sometimes on youtube but it does baffle me how they dont get caught more often.

Im localish to squires. Well huddersfield way so will get out at some point. Squires do the worst bacon sarnies though. Undercooked fat riddled death butties