Honda MSX125 (Grom)... should I?

Honda MSX125 (Grom)... should I?

Author
Discussion

sc0tt

18,057 posts

202 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
quotequote all
Like the wheels, not a fan of the stickers. Sorry Pete.

Fleegle

16,690 posts

177 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
quotequote all
Looks too clean Pete


3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
quotequote all
It's a bit of fun really Scott - the JPS Nortons are probably a bit before your time, but as a kid they made a pretty big impact on the racing scene.

Tony - I can't help myself - I can't resist the shiny shiny, hence getting rid of most of the matt panels on it. smile

sc0tt

18,057 posts

202 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
quotequote all
3DP said:
It's a bit of fun really Scott - the JPS Nortons are probably a bit before your time, but as a kid they made a pretty big impact on the racing scene.

Tony - I can't help myself - I can't resist the shiny shiny, hence getting rid of most of the matt panels on it. smile
Can you get the honda sticker in gold?

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
quotequote all
sc0tt said:
3DP said:
It's a bit of fun really Scott - the JPS Nortons are probably a bit before your time, but as a kid they made a pretty big impact on the racing scene.

Tony - I can't help myself - I can't resist the shiny shiny, hence getting rid of most of the matt panels on it. smile
Can you get the honda sticker in gold?
I purposely bought it in silver, as it picks out the footrest hangers and MSX logo, along with a nod to the JPS Norton's that had silver stripes and in some cases, Norton in silver. Weirdly quite a lot of winter boredom thought has gone into planning this little scheme!

UnluckyTimmeh

3,470 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
quotequote all




Yeah but you haven’t got the fruit salad sweet inspired clashing of colours have you..

UnluckyTimmeh

3,470 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
quotequote all
I’ve got carbon BSTs on order and it’s off to have the ohlins fork internals in the next couple of weeks.

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th February 2018
quotequote all
UnluckyTimmeh said:




Yeah but you haven’t got the fruit salad sweet inspired clashing of colours have you..
Haha - there's a lot going on there.

What I like is that you can buy the every genuine panel and mudguard to completely change the colour for £190 brand new, or about £150 imported direct from Thailand.

Ohlins inserts I can understand, but BSTs? It already falls on its side if you sneeze! What's the thinking behind that, or is it just for bling factor?

itcaptainslow

3,710 posts

137 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
quotequote all
3DP said:
itcaptainslow said:
I agree the standard IRC’s are atrocious-can’t wait to get rid of mine. No confidence at all leaning into corners and roundabouts!
IRCs? You mean the Vee Rubber tyres?
That’s the one-my old Forza had IRC’s which were equally pony!

UnluckyTimmeh

3,470 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
quotequote all
3DP said:
Haha - there's a lot going on there.

What I like is that you can buy the every genuine panel and mudguard to completely change the colour for £190 brand new, or about £150 imported direct from Thailand.

Ohlins inserts I can understand, but BSTs? It already falls on its side if you sneeze! What's the thinking behind that, or is it just for bling factor?
Three reasons really:

1) I like how they look, I’m never selling the bike so I want to make it my own.
2) I’m doing a lot of Trackdays on it now and I’m curious to see how it goes with these.
3) Mr Harwood of bike hps is a really good sales man hehe

I’m really tempted by the finbro 200cc 4v head engine conversion.
I did look at turbo kits, but they’re all a bit overkill and real world they all seem to suffer with heat management issues from what I read.

trickywoo

11,901 posts

231 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
quotequote all
UnluckyTimmeh said:
2) I’m doing a lot of Trackdays on it now and I’m curious to see how it goes with these.
LOL

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
quotequote all
UnluckyTimmeh said:
3DP said:
Haha - there's a lot going on there.

What I like is that you can buy the every genuine panel and mudguard to completely change the colour for £190 brand new, or about £150 imported direct from Thailand.

Ohlins inserts I can understand, but BSTs? It already falls on its side if you sneeze! What's the thinking behind that, or is it just for bling factor?
Three reasons really:

1) I like how they look, I’m never selling the bike so I want to make it my own.
2) I’m doing a lot of Trackdays on it now and I’m curious to see how it goes with these.
3) Mr Harwood of bike hps is a really good sales man hehe

I’m really tempted by the finbro 200cc 4v head engine conversion.
I did look at turbo kits, but they’re all a bit overkill and real world they all seem to suffer with heat management issues from what I read.
Excellent! Where are you doing track days? Assume kart tracks? I'm keen to have a go at a kart track on it!

I've read that heat management is the main issue with the big bore kits as it's air cooled and just lacking in metal to act as heat sinks. If I go that way, it will likely just be a 140cc kit and oil cooler combo.

Have you done anything with the brakes? At the moment, I'm avoiding brake upgrades as it'll just highlight the softness of the forks, but some better pads would be nice.

Post some pics with the new wheels when they come!

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

131 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
quotequote all
3DP said:
Bit of an update. I've finished the cosmetic mods that I plan. Performance wise, I've just done the airbox mod and put in a K&N. Future work will involve forks and some engine work, but only once I can convince my kids to take an interest and help.

Some photos.









I might have a Yoshi RS9 somewhere for that. Let me know if you're interested and I'll have a rummage.

AceOfHearts

5,824 posts

192 months

Sunday 25th February 2018
quotequote all
I have seen so many of these things in SE Asia whilst I've been here. Will have to get pics of some modified ones. I would love to have a go on one

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
quotequote all
WaferThinHam said:
I might have a Yoshi RS9 somewhere for that. Let me know if you're interested and I'll have a rummage.
Thanks for offer. Coincidentally that's the very exhaust I fitted this evening after winning a bargain unfitted one on eBay!



podman

8,880 posts

241 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
quotequote all
I saw a group of 4 or 5 out on their Groms at the weekend,none wearing L plates, between them and seeing yours, I have a hankering for one myself now, they do look very funky.

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
quotequote all
podman said:
I saw a group of 4 or 5 out on their Groms at the weekend,none wearing L plates, between them and seeing yours, I have a hankering for one myself now, they do look very funky.
As long as you can get your head around a 9bhp mindset, then you'll enjoy. Tonnes of mods - you'd never get bored tinkering.

UnluckyTimmeh

3,470 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th February 2018
quotequote all
3DP said:
Excellent! Where are you doing track days? Assume kart tracks? I'm keen to have a go at a kart track on it!

I've read that heat management is the main issue with the big bore kits as it's air cooled and just lacking in metal to act as heat sinks. If I go that way, it will likely just be a 140cc kit and oil cooler combo.

Have you done anything with the brakes? At the moment, I'm avoiding brake upgrades as it'll just highlight the softness of the forks, but some better pads would be nice.

Post some pics with the new wheels when they come!
Yeah we’ve got 5 or 6 local car tracks that will let us use them. £25 for a day open pit lane.

Yeah. Any engine work seems to need an oil cooler at least. So that’s on the list when I do the engine work. I’m setting aside about £3k so when I do it, I go the whole hog sort of thing.
I’d like to go 200cc there abouts. Not for speed but for torque as I’m not the smallest so I worry about it not pulling me out of the corners when fully committed. At the moment, it’s flat out and it’s wrestling with it to keep the engine buzzing. Then you start to worry about oil starvation as it’s only 800ml in there :/

Brakes, as yet not. Like you say the forks are awful so there’s no real point. But I’m going to go for a full galfer setup as it works out as about £75 for discs and pads.

3DP

9,917 posts

235 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
quotequote all
Some Grom action today. The new tyres stick like st to a blanket, but ground clearance is a real issue. Stiffer suspension the order of the day.

Knee down @58 mph (pretty much v-max on a bend).


Wheeliezzz


Cracked 70!

itcaptainslow

3,710 posts

137 months

Thursday 5th April 2018
quotequote all
I managed 72 on mine the other day, not quite sure how!

I still need to look at replacement exhausts; was looking at the Yoshi RS2, any recommendations?