Registration for Bultaco Trials bike?

[Dunc6001]

I've owned a 350 1978 Bultaco Sherpa T for the past 10 years and only ever used it off-road.
It's not registered so no registration number or docs.
Engine and Frame number are paired so all original spec.

I can deal with the daytime MoT specifications and insurance at a later stage, but unsure of how and if I can get it registered.
I've looked at the V62 form and the first section asks for the reg number!!

Any advice anyone?

Thanks in advance

Duncan

[sc0tt]

I'm sure there was a chap on here who bought an unregistered scooter for £92.

Might be worth having a search as he went through all of the rigmarol.

[Dog Star]

No such thing as a daytime MOT.

(sorry, bugbear of mine).

[Dunc6001]

I suppose technically you are correct.
OK MoT with "no lights at time of presentation"?
It also looks like I have to get the bike Mot'd first, then insured via the VIN number, then apply for vehicle registration - so yes a rigmarole but I think worthwhile.
Will approach it one step at a time.

[Prof Prolapse]

Dog Star said:

No such thing as a daytime MOT.

(sorry, bugbear of mine).

Don't be such a pedant, that's what the MOT inspectors, insurance companies, and most individuals who have one (like me) call it.

Do you honestly think we should all say, "an MOT where at the time of test the vehicle was not fitted with lights and cannot be driven at times of low visibility", every time we mention it?

[Dog Star]

Prof Prolapse said:

Don't be such a pedant, that's what the MOT inspectors, insurance companies, and most individuals who have one (like me) call it.

I've had plenty, and never called them that; I'm most definitely not a pedantic person. I've even known people who've had the inspector scrawl "daytime use only" across the certificate.

However I'd just call it an MOT. Simple as that. Because that's what it is.

[Prof Prolapse]

I didn't wish to infer you were a pedantic person overall, I don't know you, or wish you any ill will.

However unlike 95% of the "MOTs" in existence this has stipulations which are unique. These have implications on insurance and road-worthiness.

So it's atypical compared to other MOTs, so it useful to have a name which is more descriptive, and useful. That is a basic starter for language.

There's also some great irony about arguing it's "just an MOT", when in fact the Ministry of Transport that it's names from ceased to exist in what, the 1940s? So it is in itself a misnomer, but one that's longer established, and apparently therefore has credibility.

[tricky1962]

Dunc6001 said:

I suppose technically you are correct.
OK MoT with "no lights at time of presentation"?
It also looks like I have to get the bike Mot'd first, then insured via the VIN number, then apply for vehicle registration - so yes a rigmarole but I think worthwhile.
Will approach it one step at a time.

I did this with my imported Suzuki.

It's insurance first (on VIN), then MOT then apply (I had to take it to the local DVLA office, don't know what you have to do now)

Best of luck

[srob]

Any pics?

It was a 65 Bultaco that's responsible for my left left bending the wrong way

My mates got an early 70s one he's just started trialling too (calling kickstartcarl).

[kickstartcarl]

srob said:

Any pics?

It was a 65 Bultaco that's responsible for my left left bending the wrong way

My mates got an early 70s one he's just started trialling too (calling kickstartcarl).

Yep, finished two events this year and have never enjoyed falling off a bike so much! Its amazing how easy some of the experienced gents make it look on the older, heavier machines!

For getting your bike registered (I'm no expert but) somewhere in the list should be to get the age of your bike confirmed by an owners club or recognised expert. Maybe Dave Renham at http://www.inmotiontrials.com/about-us/ could help? This way you can apply for an age related plate and avoid a Q prefix.

[Corpulent Tosser]

Isn't there a good chance it was registered when new and contacting DVLA quoting the chassis number might bring up the original registration ?

I friend recently bought a fully refurbished Sherpa from a chap in Spain, the process was as described above, insured on VIN, MOT, then registered, he got an age related registration.

[graham22]

Corpulent Tosser said:

Isn't there a good chance it was registered when new and contacting DVLA quoting the chassis number might bring up the original registration ?

I friend recently bought a fully refurbished Sherpa from a chap in Spain, the process was as described above, insured on VIN, MOT, then registered, he got an age related registration.

From what I understand, DVLA can't find a reg based on frame number - would like to be proven wrong as I have the X7 with no reg & will have to go through the above to get that age related registered.

We've all seen the police trace stolen cars from the chassis number, not sure if a friendly officer could help you but I guess any enquiry they make must be related to an 'incident'.