Hanging off the bike on public roads..

Hanging off the bike on public roads..

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cat with a hat

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1,484 posts

118 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Do you hang off your motorcycle (or move your arse around) on sprinted rides whilst using public roads?

About a year ago I started experimenting on sprinted rides, but I've since come to the conclusion that its rather pointless on public roads.

Admittedly I don't own a super sport nor am I a track racing god (just yet).

Mastodon2

13,825 posts

165 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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I've been experimenting with it, it feels good to me, the bike feels more composed, but I'm no riding god by a long shot. That said, I have not broken my knee-down duck yet, but moving around definitely feels better in many cornering situations for me. However, despite the science backing up that hanging off does result in less stress on the tyre in a corner compared to the taking the corner at the same speed without hanging off and generating a greater lean angle, I'd imagine that modern sports tyres and chassis + suspension design are far more capable of far more than most road riding could push them too, even if your arse was firmly glued to the seat.

crashley

1,568 posts

180 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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First track day I did I had a few sessions tuition with an instructor and his primary criticism was that I didn't hang off/move around the bike. I subsequently tend to make an effort to do it most of the time on the road now too, so I'm in good habits for when I am on track. That's not quite the same thing as getting my knee down, that is saved entirely for track.

shunter V8

788 posts

165 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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I see this type of riding every TT as the hoards come over, there were two guys in front sliding all over the seat on the bends and sticking their knee out,it looked ridiculous,but the best bit was some guy on a pan sitting bolt upright fried them.

moanthebairns

17,932 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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I do but I weigh 10 1/2 stone, the main advantage for me is that I can use my outer leg to brace my body and anchor it in instead of smashing my balls off the tank

different riders different styles, that said I only do this if I fancy moving on and more so on my 675 as opposed to my ninja

Baldy881

1,333 posts

177 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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I do, works for me. Being light on your bum and shuffling around I find it easier to weight the pegs and pull myself into corners a little more confidently. Don't think it's a 'for show' thing with me, I haven't started dangling a leg (yet biggrin) though...

cat with a hat

Original Poster:

1,484 posts

118 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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shunter V8 said:
I see this type of riding every TT as the hoards come over, there were two guys in front sliding all over the seat on the bends and sticking their knee out,it looked ridiculous,but the best bit was some guy on a pan sitting bolt upright fried them.
Love it biggrin

Biker's Nemesis

38,613 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Sticking your arse out is so last year

Jazoli

9,095 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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I dont hang off at all and hardly move around at normal speeds, when pushing on I'll maybe move by arse across six inches or so and get my head moving towards the mirror, I will hang off a bit on bumpy roads just to stop the bike grinding out but its not really a conscious thing normally.

CaptainMorgan

1,454 posts

159 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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I've recently started riding, been out with a few mates, all have told me to move about a little more instead of just leaning round bends. Not fully hanging off the bike ala moto gp but just shifting my arse and dropping my shoulder into bends, even when not particularly pushing on the majority of them seem to do it. Gonna have a little practice when I get out on the bike and see how I feel doing it.

MrB1obby

771 posts

150 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Not really. Sometimes I'll lean my head/body out past the mirror because essentially that's where most of your weight is, but I don't really move my arse around as there isn't much need and it takes effort.

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

211 months

Saturday 28th June 2014
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Only on spirited ride outs or when I want to attack a corner faster than usual but even then I don't need to move about a massive amount... Dropping my shoulder down is enough most of the time ... Track work I hang off a lot more.

GTIR

24,741 posts

266 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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No.

black-k1

11,914 posts

229 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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shunter V8 said:
I see this type of riding every TT as the hoards come over, there were two guys in front sliding all over the seat on the bends and sticking their knee out,it looked ridiculous,but the best bit was some guy on a pan sitting bolt upright fried them.
hehe

I love it when that happens!

y2blade

56,091 posts

215 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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black-k1 said:
shunter V8 said:
I see this type of riding every TT as the hoards come over, there were two guys in front sliding all over the seat on the bends and sticking their knee out,it looked ridiculous,but the best bit was some guy on a pan sitting bolt upright fried them.
hehe

I love it when that happens!
Aye, it's great...the "fast" boys don't like it up'em hehe

SVS

3,824 posts

271 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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CaptainMorgan said:
I've recently started riding, been out with a few mates, all have told me to move about a little more instead of just leaning round bends. Not fully hanging off the bike ala moto gp but just shifting my arse and dropping my shoulder into bends, even when not particularly pushing on the majority of them seem to do it.
If you've recently started riding, I reckon there are more useful things to practice, like getting really good at how to use the vanishing pointwink

Mr OCD said:
Dropping my shoulder down is enough most of the time ... Track work I hang off a lot more.
+1. Dropping a shoulder down is enough for my road riding too. Racers who hill climb don't hang off, because of the need for rapid changes in direction, and I want the ability to do the same on the road because situations can change unpredictably.

Of course, you might want to hang off just for fun biggrin Nowt wrong with that!

creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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cat with a hat said:
shunter V8 said:
I see this type of riding every TT as the hoards come over, there were two guys in front sliding all over the seat on the bends and sticking their knee out,it looked ridiculous,but the best bit was some guy on a pan sitting bolt upright fried them.
Love it biggrin
Hehehehehehe biggrin

rumpelstiltskin

2,805 posts

259 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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Only bike I've ever hung off was my Honda Sp1, the bike 'made' me do it, honest! I just loved riding that thing, got more involved with that bike than with any other for some reason.

WaferThinHam

1,680 posts

130 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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Yes, because it makes me look like a legend.

Closed private road etc.


clen666

925 posts

122 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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I feel like I'm hanging off but to onlookers its probably not very evident.

As a new rider I'm still developing my riding style, but trying to incorporate tips from that old favourite 'twist of the wrist 2'.

I think I need to have more confidence in the available grip when the bike is leaning over, as I'm quite tall I feel the need to transfer my weight a bit more, but its probably not necessary