My new track bike, gsxr-1000 k5

My new track bike, gsxr-1000 k5

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legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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Not sure that a 'daytime only' MOT actually exists.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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julian64 said:
Todays a learning day for me. Whats a daytime MOT?

I suppose I'd better explain. I have an old R1 which I was thinking of making into a track only bike as I have a bike trailer. I'm freinds with the local bib. They warned me about turning it into a track bike. The bib in my area have apparently been tasked with going to a high number of bike trackdays, looking for track only bikes and running them through their system. They also sit at the locla petrol station for the stream of track only bikes which popped out for a fill up.

If the bike has ever been nicked in its past they will likely confiscate the bike and make you present documents at the local copshop. Its a non toll policy due to the very very high numbers of stolen bikes circulating in the track only bike world.

If your bike has even been stolen and recovered you will likely get swept up in this through no fault of your own. So the advice was to keep a track bike like a standard road bike to avoid this as you won't fall into their capture criteria.
That's a load of bks if ever I heard it. They might be more interested in a track only bike, but they can't confiscate a bike that has a frame and chassis number if it's not recorded as stolen. They also can't confiscate a bike without any frame numbers, as it's never been road registered. They can confiscate a bike with a defaced chassis number as there is no legal reason to deface it.

They can't confiscate a bike just because it's been stolen previously. If it's been recovered it will be recorded as recovered amd that's the end of the theft issue.

They can nick you for riding a bike on the road to the petrol station if it's not fully road legal ie tax, MOT and insurance. Punishments for missing one of those vary.

However, I don't have a problem with plod turning up and giving track bikes a good going over. If they do it more often it might stem at least one outlet for stolen bikes.

Edited by LoonR1 on Tuesday 8th July 19:57

julian64

14,317 posts

254 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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John D. said:
julian64 said:
Whats a daytime MOT?
MOT that permits the bike to be used in the daylight hours only. Thus does not require a headlight.
Thats interesting cos when I first built my Cobra Kit car it didn't have headlights, they were quite difficult to source and it woul dhave been more convenient to take the car to the headlamp place. However Mr MOT was having none of it.

legzr1

3,848 posts

139 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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julian64 said:
Thats interesting cos when I first built my Cobra Kit car it didn't have headlights, they were quite difficult to source and it woul dhave been more convenient to take the car to the headlamp place. However Mr MOT was having none of it.
You should have taken the car to a place that knows the regulations.

There is only one MOT certificate - if no lights are fitted an advisory note will detail this and warn not to use the vehicle between dusk and dawn.

If lights and switchgear are fitted they must be working.

The issues come from MOT testers and some police not being aware of the pertinent regulations.



Tim85

1,742 posts

135 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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legzr1 said:
Not sure that a 'daytime only' MOT actually exists.
Although it's just a normal mot it technically can only be ridden in daylight hours so it's not wrong really to say it is it?

Although I was under the impression if it had one light present then all must be present and working. That looks like it has a rear brake or some sort of rear light still visible. (Not that I'm bothered, just curious as to how it works)

Tim85

1,742 posts

135 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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Lovely bike though. I miss my old k6 1000 every day. What a cracking engine that thing had.

Stelongy

Original Poster:

50 posts

143 months

Saturday 12th July 2014
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I checked the MOT and it's just a normal MOT at the moment.

I'll look more into that before that time comes (about 5 months)

I did a bit of tidying up on the bike today, really looking forward to my trackday now!
I've just put some ebc sintered pads all round on it, and booked it in for the new master cylinder (warranty)

EvoBarry

1,903 posts

265 months

Saturday 12th July 2014
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I'll try and blag an afternoon off and pop down to watch Ste. smile I'll have to get some tips off you too, I'll be there for a taster evening in Aug.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Saturday 12th July 2014
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julian64 said:
Todays a learning day for me. Whats a daytime MOT?

I suppose I'd better explain. I have an old R1 which I was thinking of making into a track only bike as I have a bike trailer. I'm freinds with the local bib. They warned me about turning it into a track bike. The bib in my area have apparently been tasked with going to a high number of bike trackdays, looking for track only bikes and running them through their system. They also sit at the locla petrol station for the stream of track only bikes which popped out for a fill up.

If the bike has ever been nicked in its past they will likely confiscate the bike and make you present documents at the local copshop. Its a non toll policy due to the very very high numbers of stolen bikes circulating in the track only bike world.

If your bike has even been stolen and recovered you will likely get swept up in this through no fault of your own. So the advice was to keep a track bike like a standard road bike to avoid this as you won't fall into their capture criteria.
What a load of bks. If the police really do attend track days to look for stolen bikes, and your bike has been stolen and recovered previously, all they need to do is check the details of the bike and have a look at your ID - presumably the bike will be registered in your name, and you will be on your way. Even then, given how stretched and tight on budget the police are these days, I'd be surprised if a higher-upper signed off on letting a few officers go and watch a trackday in the hopes they might pick up a stolen bike.



Stelongy

Original Poster:

50 posts

143 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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EvoBarry said:
I'll try and blag an afternoon off and pop down to watch Ste. smile I'll have to get some tips off you too, I'll be there for a taster evening in Aug.
Yeh defo mate, bring you're licence and jump on half day 😃👍

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Which group are you in on Tues /Weds?

Stelongy

Original Poster:

50 posts

143 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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I'll be in inters mate, expert always seems to be full of red flags!

What about you?

Yazza54

18,507 posts

181 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Please tell me people don't actually call the fast group expert

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Stelongy said:
I'll be in inters mate, expert always seems to be full of red flags!

What about you?
Fast group for me, although I'm no expert hehe

Biker's Nemesis

38,645 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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LoonR1 said:
Fast group for me, although I'm no expert hehe
You're not fast either!


hehe

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
You're not fast either!


hehe
Very true.

Biker's Nemesis

38,645 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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LoonR1 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
You're not fast either!


hehe
Very true.
Kin hell, that was no fun!

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
Kin hell, that was no fun!
Have a look at the other 3 bike thread.

Biker's Nemesis

38,645 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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LoonR1 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Kin hell, that was no fun!
Have a look at the other 3 bike thread.
hehe

Stelongy

Original Poster:

50 posts

143 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Lol!

A few more pics from a ride tonight.