removing tint film from non-homologated visors

[Blackpuddin]

SAS Tom said:

Blackpuddin said:

Nay lad you've got it wrong: I bought a non-hom tinted one for £15 to avoid paying £40-£50 for a clear one. Clear ones are not available for £15. If they were I wouldn't be on here moaning

So basically you've wasted £15 whilst trying to save £20. Does what you're trying to do actually make sense in your head because it doesn't to me?

Not really wasted as the tinted visor is fine for most of my needs but it would be nice to have a clear one for the odd bad weather/nighttime ride. And yes I'm quite into the idea of saving £20. Actually it's more like £30.

[srob]

Blackpuddin said:

This would be my concern also, I'm happy to pay a reasonable sum for OEM but over £40 but a slice of polycarb/Lexan/whatever is barking.

And you think they can validate things for free?

Most likely the 'knock-off' one is exactly the same as the OEM one, just hasn't been through all the tests to prove it works. Those tests cost money, so the price of the unit increases to cover it, plus the obvious bit of mark up for it being OEM.

[moanthebairns]

srob said:

Blackpuddin said:

This would be my concern also, I'm happy to pay a reasonable sum for OEM but over £40 but a slice of polycarb/Lexan/whatever is barking.

And you think they can validate things for free?

Most likely the 'knock-off' one is exactly the same as the OEM one, just hasn't been through all the tests to prove it works. Those tests cost money, so the price of the unit increases to cover it, plus the obvious bit of mark up for it being OEM.

a test like this from a independent body would likely be some where in the region of £500 - £1000 for each visor, then its able to be sold. This isn't the reason they are so high.

The reason OEM visors are so high is because they have a captive audience

[Blackpuddin]

exactly so

[srob]

moanthebairns said:

a test like this from a independent body would likely be some where in the region of £500 - £1000 for each visor, then its able to be sold. This isn't the reason they are so high.

The reason OEM visors are so high is because they have a captive audience

Really?

We validate many things at work ranging from one single bits to whole systems, and I've never seen a bill that low! Especially for something that's safety related.

There's obviously going to be a mark up but if it was that cheap, the 'knock off' company wuold surely validate them, sell thousands to people like the OP for 20 quid and be miwyanairs, no?

In fact, why don't you buy 500, validate them for what would be one to two pounds each (from your estimate) and sell them for 20 quid. You'd make one to two grand, wouldn't you? OP would buy one anyway

[Blackpuddin]

I certainly would.
Of course there are validation costs for anything but I am very skeptical about the idea of these costs making up anything other than a tiny proportion of a visor's retail price.

[srob]

Yeah you obviously have a load of other costs; advertising, warranty, development (assuming you're not just copying a design, if that's the case replace with legal fees), packaging, distribution and that's off the top of my head.

As I said, I'm sure there is an OEM markup but I doubt it's the difference between 15 quid and 40 quid, minus a grand to validate. If it was, everyone would be doing it