MotoGP of... Wales
Discussion
sprinter1050 said:
mitzy said:
You should pop 50 Shades of Grey on her coffee table
That should get her off M&B!
Does he want to kill her off ? Heart attack time ! That should get her off M&B!
moanthebairns said:
Old people would be up in arms.
My Gran is never away from there, her goal in life is to read ever Mills and Boon book ever written. She has been reading them for at least 20 years, probably about 3 a week. In fact she turned around to say "she might stop reading them they are getting s
t". She swears as much as me.
I am staggered that my local library has the capacity for anything but fking mills and boons books.
Cough... a long time ago I worked for Mills & Boon (for 15 years and no, I've never ever read one of their books), worldwide they produce at least 64 new titles a month, in the UK a lot of people subscribe to get 16 books a month and have done for years and years... My Gran is never away from there, her goal in life is to read ever Mills and Boon book ever written. She has been reading them for at least 20 years, probably about 3 a week. In fact she turned around to say "she might stop reading them they are getting s
t". She swears as much as me. I am staggered that my local library has the capacity for anything but f
king mills and boons books.
moanthebairns said:
sprinter1050 said:
mitzy said:
You should pop 50 Shades of Grey on her coffee table
That should get her off M&B!
Does he want to kill her off ? Heart attack time ! That should get her off M&B!
graham22 said:
Surely it would not take much to re-model considering the infrastructure is already there. IIRC, the Hislop incident was bit of a questionable manouvere at the time?
Not sure questionable is the right term.The incident happened at what was turn 1 for the start of the races then a left into the circuit. John Reynolds got the jump and as he went to change gear with a badly injured ankle, his missed it, Hizzy ran into the back of him and was sent off towards to wall outside the oval circuit.
The bike hit the air barrier sending it up in the air and Hizzy went underneath and straight into the concrete. Broken ribs, ankle, shoulder and other stuff.
The championship was then won by Reynolds, who with all credit did something racers don't often do, but visited Hizzy in hospital to apologize.
Unfortunately I was there to witness it and as a Hizzy fan for as long as I can remember watching bikes, it was a real shame to see him injured and lose the championship because of it. But, no finer fellow than Reynolds to benefit.
What was most shocking about the Rockingham set up in those days was the final, left onto the banking, the number of high sides we saw there from going from flat track to an almost step up to the banking was painful to watch.
graham22 said:
I'll get corrected or flamed for this but why isn't Rockingham ever considered for MotoGP, or WSB and now BSB for that matter?
Because it is beyond ste as a track. I ride there a few weeks back and it is just crap on all counts, apart from the swoop down off the banking and through the flip flop there. Reports say 10% of funding is from public purse, the rest from private investment which there are no confirmed investors to deliver.
Silverstone can't sell their circuit to anyone and it's an established circuit, but somehow CoW is going to find them - I'm skeptical, can you tell?
Donington and Silverstone only hold the current license to run MGP and no other circuit in the UK is close to spec currently, or going to be prepared to invest and then pay the Dorna fee.
Aragon, Brno and others show that these developments bring in about €50m to the region with a GP.
Silverstone are fighting a PR campaign against the public funding of the CoW development and won't want MGP due to costs, unless CoW pays a big chunk in 2015.
Dorna's contract with BT specifies one round in the UK, so they've got to find a solution as the costs involved in TV rights make circuit fees look like pocket money for a 4yr old.
Would Dorna have signed a contract without some securities from CoW of investment? Maybe, if it keeps BT Sport happy.
Whilst the CoW may go ahead, I'm not convinced it will or that attendance will ever be enough to make it viable.
Silverstone can't sell their circuit to anyone and it's an established circuit, but somehow CoW is going to find them - I'm skeptical, can you tell?
Donington and Silverstone only hold the current license to run MGP and no other circuit in the UK is close to spec currently, or going to be prepared to invest and then pay the Dorna fee.
Aragon, Brno and others show that these developments bring in about €50m to the region with a GP.
Silverstone are fighting a PR campaign against the public funding of the CoW development and won't want MGP due to costs, unless CoW pays a big chunk in 2015.
Dorna's contract with BT specifies one round in the UK, so they've got to find a solution as the costs involved in TV rights make circuit fees look like pocket money for a 4yr old.
Would Dorna have signed a contract without some securities from CoW of investment? Maybe, if it keeps BT Sport happy.
Whilst the CoW may go ahead, I'm not convinced it will or that attendance will ever be enough to make it viable.
egor110 said:
Surely people will travel to Wales and make a long weekend of it?
What do you think people in the west country do now if they want to watch bike racing live, that's right we get off our backsides and travel.
If it was only about travel then why does Silverstone in the middle of the major motorway network struggle?What do you think people in the west country do now if they want to watch bike racing live, that's right we get off our backsides and travel.
Also, where I used to start my journey to go racing from is equally as extreme with no motorway for the first hour minimum, but the average punter is not going to bother, only dedicated idiots spend 3.5hrs to drive to Oulton Park for example and then spend longer getting home on BH Monday night after an hour to get out the circuit.
Making a weekend away of it makes it even more expensive, so less likely if pricing is already high....
graphene said:
It is reported that they have already made payments to Dorna, to secure the race rights for 2015. Who knows what the terms are but if Dorna has the money then what do they care until they have to consider making a decision overwinter. There is also the £2m 'grant' the company got from the Welsh Gov in the beginning.
Silverstone say they were denied public funding to keep the F1 GP because it would break (EU) state-aid laws.
Decision is coming in September for 2015 venue according to Dorna.Silverstone say they were denied public funding to keep the F1 GP because it would break (EU) state-aid laws.
Can you put a link up for the reported pre-payments, be interested to read it?
Options are for CoW to rent Silverstone or Donington, both will take it for the right price. CoW won't like the price either way but have no option, or default to deliver a venue, so then have to pay Dorna compensation.
I wouldn't negotiate anything less if I was negotiating this for Dorna.
Dorms will let them "win" the right to host. Then CoW will not be built and Dorna will be able to walk away from the UK without breaching their BT contract as they did have a round it's just the circuit couldn't host.
Dorna will then announce that all MotoGPs will be held in Spain from now on.
Dorna will then announce that all MotoGPs will be held in Spain from now on.
It will never happen.
The proposed circuit is in the middle of nowhere, there is no infrastructure, the road links are awful & i doubt that there are sufficient campsites, hotels, guest houses in the area to cope with 60000 bikers.
If Silverstone cannot make ends meet with all that they have got going on how the hell will a new circuit make any money?
Who the hell agreed to this stupidity? The same fools who agreed that the British F1 GP should go to Donington?
Is Bernie E involved in this as it is the kind of dumb-ass thing he would do!!!!
I would imagine that the powers that be at Silverstone are spitting feathers now.
It is just utterly ridiculous.
The proposed circuit is in the middle of nowhere, there is no infrastructure, the road links are awful & i doubt that there are sufficient campsites, hotels, guest houses in the area to cope with 60000 bikers.
If Silverstone cannot make ends meet with all that they have got going on how the hell will a new circuit make any money?
Who the hell agreed to this stupidity? The same fools who agreed that the British F1 GP should go to Donington?
Is Bernie E involved in this as it is the kind of dumb-ass thing he would do!!!!
I would imagine that the powers that be at Silverstone are spitting feathers now.
It is just utterly ridiculous.
fatboy69 said:
It will never happen.
The proposed circuit is in the middle of nowhere, there is no infrastructure, the road links are awful & i doubt that there are sufficient campsites, hotels, guest houses in the area to cope with 60000 bikers.
If Silverstone cannot make ends meet with all that they have got going on how the hell will a new circuit make any money?
Who the hell agreed to this stupidity? The same fools who agreed that the British F1 GP should go to Donington?
Is Bernie E involved in this as it is the kind of dumb-ass thing he would do!!!!
I would imagine that the powers that be at Silverstone are spitting feathers now.
It is just utterly ridiculous.
Whilst I think they are going to have huge challenges and I hope they have every success as I think the area truly needs something to happen (not sure what)I think the transport infrastructure is a bit of a null point as Silverstones is truely awful. Yet people still go back. The proposed circuit is in the middle of nowhere, there is no infrastructure, the road links are awful & i doubt that there are sufficient campsites, hotels, guest houses in the area to cope with 60000 bikers.
If Silverstone cannot make ends meet with all that they have got going on how the hell will a new circuit make any money?
Who the hell agreed to this stupidity? The same fools who agreed that the British F1 GP should go to Donington?
Is Bernie E involved in this as it is the kind of dumb-ass thing he would do!!!!
I would imagine that the powers that be at Silverstone are spitting feathers now.
It is just utterly ridiculous.
graphene said:
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/10726529/...
Thanks, the Visordown one being the most revealing .... 2.5m to Dorna, without an income or a means of earning one. Madness.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/10726529/...
This has all the hallmarks of the Donington fiasco again, except there's no circuit and it involves tax payers money. Last time it was just a butchered circuit and no money ! Rights deals signed, commitments made and not anything to back it all up yet.
Why would Yamaha offer Smith the Forward bike for the same money when they don't have someone in the wings for the T3 bike?
Circuit entrance as of 3pm today and the first two contractors are in!
Rassau Industrial Estate on the left and circuit entrance directly in front of you under the power lines. Rossi et al coming through here in under 2 years (hope they've brought motocrossers!!).
I think by a quirk of coincidence rather than planning, the infrastructure question will be answered by completion of another section of the A465 Heads of The Valley road. Carillion have already stuck a load of bridges in and scheduled to complete what is a major civils project by middle of 2015.
http://www.a465brynmawr2tredegar.co.uk/
Johno said:
Also, not sure the circuit design is going to produce great racing, looks a bit 'Valencia' more than anywhere else, dull as dishwater. But these things never truly translate until wheels are turned in anger.
I see a bit of Sepang with the two straights doing a "V" around the buildings. Cannot see any big ballsy 5th gear corners. Phillip Island doesn't look much as a circuit layout but awesome in reality - modern design seems to think too hard about it all.Another circuit is another circuit though so not moaning too much - just be nice to have the normal 2.5 mile Tilke standard style job and a 14 mile loop hanging off it = never going to happen dot com sadly!
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