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The real question is how many people have the ability to differentiate between their left and right eyes and deal with different information to each?
As a possible comparison flying a helicopter isn't overly difficult, whereas flying an AH64 is because of the ocular skills required.
Now using Google glass isn't going to be a life or death event sitting at your desk. But getting transfixed on the HUD or nav and loosing focus of the road/situation ahead could f
k up your day double quick. Now add in a phone call you're having and you're no different from the average car driver but without the advantage of an NCAP rated box surrounding you.
Technology is great but I think this fixes a problem that actually doesn't exist.
why not fit a rear facing camera and screen to the bike that's also the nav screen and use an existing scala type arrangement for bluetooth music and phone if REALLY necessary. then you can use whatever helmet you like.
In fact, why doesn't someone make a mirror with a built in camera and screen so you have full rearward visibility? No need for a ste helmet then!
this, sorry to say is kak
As a possible comparison flying a helicopter isn't overly difficult, whereas flying an AH64 is because of the ocular skills required.
Now using Google glass isn't going to be a life or death event sitting at your desk. But getting transfixed on the HUD or nav and loosing focus of the road/situation ahead could f
k up your day double quick. Now add in a phone call you're having and you're no different from the average car driver but without the advantage of an NCAP rated box surrounding you. Technology is great but I think this fixes a problem that actually doesn't exist.
why not fit a rear facing camera and screen to the bike that's also the nav screen and use an existing scala type arrangement for bluetooth music and phone if REALLY necessary. then you can use whatever helmet you like.
In fact, why doesn't someone make a mirror with a built in camera and screen so you have full rearward visibility? No need for a s
te helmet then!this, sorry to say is kak
Edited by bass gt3 on Monday 18th August 17:39
bass gt3 said:
The real question is how many people have the ability to differentiate between their left and right eyes and deal with different information to each?
This is a good point. Imagine you are driving along, Sat Nav has a direction and you focus on what it says. You as a result drift to the right focusing on something down to your right, look where you are going and all that. You don't have the inherent stability of a car. gwm said:
bass gt3 said:
The real question is how many people have the ability to differentiate between their left and right eyes and deal with different information to each?
This is a good point. Imagine you are driving along, Sat Nav has a direction and you focus on what it says. You as a result drift to the right focusing on something down to your right, look where you are going and all that. You don't have the inherent stability of a car. creampuff said:
gwm said:
bass gt3 said:
The real question is how many people have the ability to differentiate between their left and right eyes and deal with different information to each?
This is a good point. Imagine you are driving along, Sat Nav has a direction and you focus on what it says. You as a result drift to the right focusing on something down to your right, look where you are going and all that. You don't have the inherent stability of a car. As said,i just don't see the need or point but that doesn't stop someone plugging a hole in the market that doesn't really exist.....
With a proper HUD the image is projected in a way that it appears to some distance from you, so the eye doesn't need to refocus. I did some trials some years ago with goggles that had a screen in the corner to display an image from a camera and you had to refocus on that. No idea if Skully (or google glass for that matter) use a proper distance projected image or if you need to refocus on it. A proper HUD shouldn't be particularly distracting.
Still don't see the point in a rear facing camera in your helmet though.
Still don't see the point in a rear facing camera in your helmet though.
If this helmet launches in the US market, I wonder how long it will be before someone has an accident whilst wearing it and blames something in the helmet for distracting them ? I guess the helmet will have an instruction guide that no-one reads complete with lengthy small print legal disclaimer....
bogie said:
If this helmet launches in the US market, I wonder how long it will be before someone has an accident whilst wearing it and blames something in the helmet for distracting them ? I guess the helmet will have an instruction guide that no-one reads complete with lengthy small print legal disclaimer....
Same as the disclaimer most gps systems force on you, to tell you that you should still obey traffic rules no matter what the GPS instruct you.
On the other hand, this helmet does nothing that didn't exist before. You've had a rear view in the mirrors for ages, a speed readout on your bike, a GPS mounted on the bar, bluetooth/intercom helmet systems,...
RizzoTheRat said:
Still don't see the point in a rear facing camera in your helmet though.
I think if it's there, it's one of these things you're going to miss first time you don't have it (try riding a bicycle after 100s miles on the bike).Mirrors on a lot of bikes are next to useless due to position, vibrations,...
On top of that, if they stick out they make the bike wider.
If I had this and it would work properly, I could think of a number of bikes that look a lot better without the mirrors. Yes, I know, you're probably obliged to have them, but if I got a working system in my helmet I wouldn't really care and wouldn't see a real reason to keep them.
Dare2Fail said:
No import duties are due on safety helmets. That's why you can pick up a bargain by ordering Arai RX7s from abroad.
Where did you get this information?Says different here..
http://www.dutycalculator.com/
Duty Website said:
Notes on duty & taxes rates and compliance
Motorcycle Helmet has an import duty rate of 2.7% and a VAT rate of 20% .
Motorcycle Helmet has an import duty rate of 2.7% and a VAT rate of 20% .
Can't help feeling that focusing on the idea that a phone call could distract your riding is missing the point somewhat.
The helmet gives you a blind spot free view of what's behind you - eliminating one of the biggest sources of danger present whilst riding a bike... If this tech was added to every helmet in the world overnight there would be lives saved every second.
If there wasn't an option to switch off phone calls and navi that would be a design flaw - but if we assume they've thought of that obvious fuction, then who wouldn't want to be instantly aware that the old biddy in the Micra just switched lanes and is now directly in your way should you wish to do the same?
The calls and navi are more of a feature it'd be odd not to have the option of using given they would be so easy to integrate into the tech. And whilst it may be distracting, when you're touring Europe being able to hit a button and have it direct you to the nearest fuel station would be less distracting than trying to remember directions or looking away to a navi mounted on the bike, shirley?
Apparently the HUD is distance set and tracks the eye so you don't need to refocus.
The helmet gives you a blind spot free view of what's behind you - eliminating one of the biggest sources of danger present whilst riding a bike... If this tech was added to every helmet in the world overnight there would be lives saved every second.
If there wasn't an option to switch off phone calls and navi that would be a design flaw - but if we assume they've thought of that obvious fuction, then who wouldn't want to be instantly aware that the old biddy in the Micra just switched lanes and is now directly in your way should you wish to do the same?
The calls and navi are more of a feature it'd be odd not to have the option of using given they would be so easy to integrate into the tech. And whilst it may be distracting, when you're touring Europe being able to hit a button and have it direct you to the nearest fuel station would be less distracting than trying to remember directions or looking away to a navi mounted on the bike, shirley?
Apparently the HUD is distance set and tracks the eye so you don't need to refocus.
Carpie said:
Can't help feeling that focusing on the idea that a phone call could distract your riding is missing the point somewhat.
The helmet gives you a blind spot free view of what's behind you - eliminating one of the biggest sources of danger present whilst riding a bike... If this tech was added to every helmet in the world overnight there would be lives saved every second.
If there wasn't an option to switch off phone calls and navi that would be a design flaw - but if we assume they've thought of that obvious fuction, then who wouldn't want to be instantly aware that the old biddy in the Micra just switched lanes and is now directly in your way should you wish to do the same?
The calls and navi are more of a feature it'd be odd not to have the option of using given they would be so easy to integrate into the tech. And whilst it may be distracting, when you're touring Europe being able to hit a button and have it direct you to the nearest fuel station would be less distracting than trying to remember directions or looking away to a navi mounted on the bike, shirley?
Apparently the HUD is distance set and tracks the eye so you don't need to refocus.
As well as the throwaway comment that you shouldn't be riding if an old dear in a Micra can keep pace with you, there is the serious point that you ought to be able to spot that anyway and deal with it. You have no divine right to be in a particular space on the road. The helmet gives you a blind spot free view of what's behind you - eliminating one of the biggest sources of danger present whilst riding a bike... If this tech was added to every helmet in the world overnight there would be lives saved every second.
If there wasn't an option to switch off phone calls and navi that would be a design flaw - but if we assume they've thought of that obvious fuction, then who wouldn't want to be instantly aware that the old biddy in the Micra just switched lanes and is now directly in your way should you wish to do the same?
The calls and navi are more of a feature it'd be odd not to have the option of using given they would be so easy to integrate into the tech. And whilst it may be distracting, when you're touring Europe being able to hit a button and have it direct you to the nearest fuel station would be less distracting than trying to remember directions or looking away to a navi mounted on the bike, shirley?
Apparently the HUD is distance set and tracks the eye so you don't need to refocus.
LoonR1 said:
Carpie said:
Can't help feeling that focusing on the idea that a phone call could distract your riding is missing the point somewhat.
The helmet gives you a blind spot free view of what's behind you - eliminating one of the biggest sources of danger present whilst riding a bike... If this tech was added to every helmet in the world overnight there would be lives saved every second.
If there wasn't an option to switch off phone calls and navi that would be a design flaw - but if we assume they've thought of that obvious fuction, then who wouldn't want to be instantly aware that the old biddy in the Micra just switched lanes and is now directly in your way should you wish to do the same?
The calls and navi are more of a feature it'd be odd not to have the option of using given they would be so easy to integrate into the tech. And whilst it may be distracting, when you're touring Europe being able to hit a button and have it direct you to the nearest fuel station would be less distracting than trying to remember directions or looking away to a navi mounted on the bike, shirley?
Apparently the HUD is distance set and tracks the eye so you don't need to refocus.
As well as the throwaway comment that you shouldn't be riding if an old dear in a Micra can keep pace with you, there is the serious point that you ought to be able to spot that anyway and deal with it. You have no divine right to be in a particular space on the road. The helmet gives you a blind spot free view of what's behind you - eliminating one of the biggest sources of danger present whilst riding a bike... If this tech was added to every helmet in the world overnight there would be lives saved every second.
If there wasn't an option to switch off phone calls and navi that would be a design flaw - but if we assume they've thought of that obvious fuction, then who wouldn't want to be instantly aware that the old biddy in the Micra just switched lanes and is now directly in your way should you wish to do the same?
The calls and navi are more of a feature it'd be odd not to have the option of using given they would be so easy to integrate into the tech. And whilst it may be distracting, when you're touring Europe being able to hit a button and have it direct you to the nearest fuel station would be less distracting than trying to remember directions or looking away to a navi mounted on the bike, shirley?
Apparently the HUD is distance set and tracks the eye so you don't need to refocus.
One of the central tennents to riding well is spacial awareness and observation, and if you don't know what's around you while you're riding, especially in your 4 and 8 o'clock positions, you have no business being on a bike in the first place. Expecting some technology to make up for a basic lack of ability isn't going to fix the problem that you aren't safe in the first place.
Lee540 said:
Dare2Fail said:
No import duties are due on safety helmets. That's why you can pick up a bargain by ordering Arai RX7s from abroad.
Where did you get this information?Says different here..
http://www.dutycalculator.com/
Duty Website said:
Notes on duty & taxes rates and compliance
Motorcycle Helmet has an import duty rate of 2.7% and a VAT rate of 20% .
Motorcycle Helmet has an import duty rate of 2.7% and a VAT rate of 20% .
Edit to add:
This seems to support my understanding but it all hinges on the helmet being officially approved.
http://www.parliament.uk/Templates/BriefingPapers/...
Edited by Dare2Fail on Sunday 31st August 17:11
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