Moto gp Silverstone -- spoilers--
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People used to complain about the commentary on BBC2 but good god, this mob make my ears bleed. They lurch up and down their cliche list, picking them (and repeating them) at random, occasionally stating the bleeding obvious, and frequently missing key action points for about half a lap (example: Marquez's big sideways moment today about 6 or 7 laps from the end, they didn't even mention it until it was replayed). They really are truly awful, dire, inexpert twerps who seem to be just sitting their reading scripted comments whenever they think those might vaguely fit what's happening on track.
Anyone know where you can get a different commentary to listen to? I think I'd take it in Outer Mongolian rather than subject myself to these idiots again.
Anyone know where you can get a different commentary to listen to? I think I'd take it in Outer Mongolian rather than subject myself to these idiots again.
CAPP0 said:
People used to complain about the commentary on BBC2 but good god, this mob make my ears bleed. They lurch up and down their cliche list, picking them (and repeating them) at random, occasionally stating the bleeding obvious, and frequently missing key action points for about half a lap (example: Marquez's big sideways moment today about 6 or 7 laps from the end, they didn't even mention it until it was replayed). They really are truly awful, dire, inexpert twerps who seem to be just sitting their reading scripted comments whenever they think those might vaguely fit what's happening on track.
Anyone know where you can get a different commentary to listen to? I think I'd take it in Outer Mongolian rather than subject myself to these idiots again.
Anyone know where you can get a different commentary to listen to? I think I'd take it in Outer Mongolian rather than subject myself to these idiots again.
TheRealFingers99 said:
Direct injection might confer fuel consumption or emissions advantages, but does anyone running a superbike really care about fuel consumption? Ban pneumatic valves, say I: let the Japanese go desmodromic, develop better valve springs, or re-invent the sleeve valve engine.
I agree with you on pneumatic valves, there must be more practical solutions available. I do believe direct injection has a place - if not for fuel consumption then most defiantly for outright power. I agree no-one running a superbike cares too much about fuel consumption (unless you ride a fast v-twin and all your mates on 4cyls are getting pissed off because you have to stop AGAIN for fuel!) but emissions laws are set to get more strict, and if DI means cleaner exhaust gasses that could allow for lighter exhaust systems as less of a catalytic converter is requiredtopsprayer said:
Dare2Fail said:
Are you high?
Not really-he can't be in the ride forever, time for Honda to look at future riders. Name another young rider who impresses consistently? I know it won't happen cause he's not Spanish. Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it though. If you are HRC and you have Marquez locked down as your main title contender you want a strong number 2 rider to bring home strong consistent results to help you take the team and manufacturer titles, while also keeping Marquez on his toes on those odd days when the sun shines just right. There are not many other riders in the field (personally, I'd say only one -Lorenzo) who could do as good a job as Pedrosa.
Redding should have Bradl's bike. Redding should have Bautista's bike. You could even argue that Redding should have Smith or Pol's bike. To suggest that he should have Pedrosa's bike is a hell of a leap.
Dare2Fail said:
So far this year Pedrosa has had 4 3rd place finishes, 3 2nd place finishes and 1 win. That's 8 rostrum finishes from 11 starts and I'm pretty sure that two of his poor (that's a fourth or fifth by the way - so not exactly bad) were when he was going through arm pump surgery recovery issues.
If you are HRC and you have Marquez locked down as your main title contender you want a strong number 2 rider to bring home strong consistent results to help you take the team and manufacturer titles, while also keeping Marquez on his toes on those odd days when the sun shines just right. There are not many other riders in the field (personally, I'd say only one -Lorenzo) who could do as good a job as Pedrosa.
Redding should have Bradl's bike. Redding should have Bautista's bike. You could even argue that Redding should have Smith or Pol's bike. To suggest that he should have Pedrosa's bike is a hell of a leap.
Couldn't have said it better myself.If you are HRC and you have Marquez locked down as your main title contender you want a strong number 2 rider to bring home strong consistent results to help you take the team and manufacturer titles, while also keeping Marquez on his toes on those odd days when the sun shines just right. There are not many other riders in the field (personally, I'd say only one -Lorenzo) who could do as good a job as Pedrosa.
Redding should have Bradl's bike. Redding should have Bautista's bike. You could even argue that Redding should have Smith or Pol's bike. To suggest that he should have Pedrosa's bike is a hell of a leap.
jbudgie said:
CAPP0 said:
People used to complain about the commentary on BBC2 but good god, this mob make my ears bleed. They lurch up and down their cliche list, picking them (and repeating them) at random, occasionally stating the bleeding obvious, and frequently missing key action points for about half a lap (example: Marquez's big sideways moment today about 6 or 7 laps from the end, they didn't even mention it until it was replayed). They really are truly awful, dire, inexpert twerps who seem to be just sitting their reading scripted comments whenever they think those might vaguely fit what's happening on track.
Anyone know where you can get a different commentary to listen to? I think I'd take it in Outer Mongolian rather than subject myself to these idiots again.
Anyone know where you can get a different commentary to listen to? I think I'd take it in Outer Mongolian rather than subject myself to these idiots again.
Great races though. Wish I went. Will aim for Valencia instead
Rawwr said:
Dare2Fail said:
So far this year Pedrosa has had 4 3rd place finishes, 3 2nd place finishes and 1 win. That's 8 rostrum finishes from 11 starts and I'm pretty sure that two of his poor (that's a fourth or fifth by the way - so not exactly bad) were when he was going through arm pump surgery recovery issues.
If you are HRC and you have Marquez locked down as your main title contender you want a strong number 2 rider to bring home strong consistent results to help you take the team and manufacturer titles, while also keeping Marquez on his toes on those odd days when the sun shines just right. There are not many other riders in the field (personally, I'd say only one -Lorenzo) who could do as good a job as Pedrosa.
Redding should have Bradl's bike. Redding should have Bautista's bike. You could even argue that Redding should have Smith or Pol's bike. To suggest that he should have Pedrosa's bike is TRUE!!
Couldn't have said it better myself.If you are HRC and you have Marquez locked down as your main title contender you want a strong number 2 rider to bring home strong consistent results to help you take the team and manufacturer titles, while also keeping Marquez on his toes on those odd days when the sun shines just right. There are not many other riders in the field (personally, I'd say only one -Lorenzo) who could do as good a job as Pedrosa.
Redding should have Bradl's bike. Redding should have Bautista's bike. You could even argue that Redding should have Smith or Pol's bike. To suggest that he should have Pedrosa's bike is TRUE!!
EFA
He's been in for ages, he's had his chance and he will never be the champion. Ok I am not suggesting Redding jumps in his boots straight away but when his team mate is at the front of the race and he's 8 seconds back and isn't really taking it to him I have to ask my self why they don't give it to some one who could. He rides like a beaten man and even though it might sound stupid I'd like a championship where it isn't one person dominating.
topsprayer said:
He's been in for ages, he's had his chance and he will never be the champion.
There are lots of people who will never be champion, that doesn't detract from their ability on a bike.topsprayer said:
Ok I am not suggesting Redding jumps in his boots straight away but when his team mate is at the front of the race and he's 8 seconds back and isn't really taking it to him I have to ask my self why they don't give it to some one who could. He rides like a beaten man and even though it might sound stupid I'd like a championship where it isn't one person dominating.
Whilst I believe Redding is worthy of a better bike, do you really believe that if he was given a Repsol Honda that he'd be any closer to Marquez than Lorenzo, Rossi, Pedrosa or anyone else on the grid? Why not give the Repsol ride to Camier, Barbera, Aoyama or Abraham?Redding's a damn good rider, which is why he's in MotoGP, but I strongly suspect that if you put Redding and Pedrosa on identical bikes, Pedrosa would beat him nine times out of ten. Which is exactly what Honda want.
Rawwr said:
Whilst I believe Redding is worthy of a better bike, do you really believe that if he was given a Repsol Honda that he'd be any closer to Marquez than Lorenzo, Rossi, Pedrosa or anyone else on the grid? Why not give the Repsol ride to Camier, Barbera, Aoyama or Abraham?
Redding's a damn good rider, which is why he's in MotoGP, but I strongly suspect that if you put Redding and Pedrosa on identical bikes, Pedrosa would beat him nine times out of ten. Which is exactly what Honda want.
He was able to take it to him in a few races in moto2 where his weight disadvantage was even worse. Whilst I do agree with you and I know right now it would be silly but I am sure in a few years time he will be. Then I guess Marquez came along and re wrote the rule book so no one really knows do they.Redding's a damn good rider, which is why he's in MotoGP, but I strongly suspect that if you put Redding and Pedrosa on identical bikes, Pedrosa would beat him nine times out of ten. Which is exactly what Honda want.
topsprayer said:
He's been in for ages, he's had his chance and he will never be the champion. Ok I am not suggesting Redding jumps in his boots straight away but when his team mate is at the front of the race and he's 8 seconds back and isn't really taking it to him I have to ask my self why they don't give it to some one who could. He rides like a beaten man and even though it might sound stupid I'd like a championship where it isn't one person dominating.
HRC already have the title winner in Marquez. Pedrosa sits second at the moment. They can't have two riders win the title so what more do you want?Rides like a beaten man? Did you miss the previous race? Yes he was 8 secs back today, so was Rossi, the rest of the field were even further back.
You can't really believe redding would be beating MM if he was on the Repsol bike? I don't think anyone would be beating MM regularly if they had the other HRC bike.
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