My new Project.. From Chop to...

My new Project.. From Chop to...

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Merch131

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813 posts

150 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Over braided hose arrived, so could get on and make up the oil lines. Need to pay attention as its easy to get them mixed up (the are no markers or id on the oil tank etc).. I've seen it done, result being one seized newly rebuilt Harley.. thankfully not mine.

Merch131

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813 posts

150 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Downpipes are on at last, they sit slightly differently from the old bike, so will need to modify the collector or make another. The old exhaust collector could do with a tad more silencing, some tracks have a 104 db noise limit. This exhaust probably exceeds that at idle.

Finally got my hands on the ZXR750 forks off the other project bike and they went straight in the yokes without any problems. I had a mint Brembo 4 pot goldline caliper which happened to fit these forks perfectly, or at least they looked like they did. But turns out the mounting holes are 1.5mm different. Bloody typical. Still want to use the Brembo as it matches the rear, so will need to make a bracket.

Merch131

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813 posts

150 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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The split rim rear wheel leaked like a sieve, used bathroom sealant to make it airtight.. went for quantity over quality .. Better not leak after this.. I'll get the tyre re fitted soon.

Merch131

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813 posts

150 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Fitted the air shifter ram and the oil filter mount this week, the latter needed machining to clear the frame tubes, pity as it was chromed, but needs must.

Merch131

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813 posts

150 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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The rear wheel is being a pita, whatever I try it still leaks. The tyre has been off and on five times this week as we try different sealants, all to no avail. May have to get the joints between the rims and centre seam welded as a last resort.

On a brighter note I was given a nice set of discs taken from a GSXR750 K7 for free, which have 310mm front discs, just what I needed to work with the forks I'm using. They were take off parts when a customer upgraded to some fancy Galfer discs at my local bike shop, he didn't want the old discs (strange as they are in good condition), so they were given to me, as they knew I was after a 310mm disc.

Made a rear caliper torque arm out of a donated steering rod from a Go kart, had to cut it down a few cm, but apart from that it went straight on, even had the correct sized rose joints already.

Next job was to make a top motor mount, last one I bought was a fancy billet one which cost around £150. This one is made from high grade 5mm stainless, and cost a tenner, as I had Geoff the welder cut out the metal and bend it accurately for me. It'll also be used to hold the coil when that turns up, and the choke cable. Still needs a bit of fettling to make it look pretty, but overall its ok.

Merch131

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813 posts

150 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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The exhaust collector needed work as it sat differently than on the old bike so its mounting point was angled wrong. Some tracks have noise limits, which I'm sure this exhaust would exceed massively. Therefore I'd been thinking about adding a silencer, though space is limited, so not sure how much quieter it would be using a small silencer, while not strangling the engine. I cut the old collector in half and tried a few options..

Merch131

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813 posts

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Friday 14th November 2014
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Or maybe the start of a reversve cone mega..

Merch131

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813 posts

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Friday 14th November 2014
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After looking at lots of options, including race bike 'stubbies', I decided that if it was too loud for Elvington, then that's their loss, so it got a new straight through collector. Toes may get toastie when I brake..

Merch131

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813 posts

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Friday 14th November 2014
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At the other end of the engine, I dug out my trusty S&S velocity stack to use, needs an adaptor making to fit the Mikuni carb, which is in progress now.

Waiting for some parts to arrive.. coil, tacho, new blank rear sprocket from Renthal. When all that arrives the wiring can be done, by which time hopefully the front end will be ready too.


Yazza54

18,537 posts

182 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Nice work as usual

Megaflow

9,434 posts

226 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Merch131 said:
The rear wheel is being a pita, whatever I try it still leaks. The tyre has been off and on five times this week as we try different sealants, all to no avail. May have to get the joints between the rims and centre seam welded as a last resort.
May I suggest splitting the wheel and putting the sealant on the flange?

This was how we used to seal kart wheels many years ago.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Megaflow said:
May I suggest splitting the wheel and putting the sealant on the flange?

This was how we used to seal kart wheels many years ago.
Where else would you put the sealant?

s p a c e m a n

10,781 posts

149 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Have you tried using Sikaflex windscreen adhesive, my car's made of the stuff as it's the only silicone I can find that actually makes a decent seal.

Megaflow

9,434 posts

226 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Mr2Mike said:
Where else would you put the sealant?
So far it seems to be on the surface only.

OP, apologies if you already have it on the face as well, if you have, try sikaflex as the chap above says. If that doesn't work then welding may be the only answer.

gareth_r

5,737 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Don't know if it helps, but here's a video on assembling 3-piece (car) wheels.

http://www.ccwheel.com/technical-repair.php

Looks as if they don't put the sealant on the mating faces, but on the chamfer at the edge of the mating faces

I would imagine that you'd want metal to metal contact between the components.




Merch131

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813 posts

150 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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The wheel did have some kind of sealant / gasket on the faces when it was assembled (don't know what kind), but clearly it didn't make the wheel airtight, hence I needed to add more to the joints. Yesterday I had the rims seam welded to the centre, was told it was a pig of a job as the red sealant that had been used kept bubbling up to the surface of the joint with the heat. I'm £60 the poorer now, but fingers crossed it wont leak anymore.

BigTom85

1,927 posts

172 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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Great progress on this, its really coming together. Love it!

Merch131

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813 posts

150 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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The rear wheel is airtight at last having been welded, the tyre went back on, then I had to wait for the blank Renthal 48 tooth sprocket to turn up which replaced the original 50 tooth sprocket. This in turn then needed to be machined and drilled to fit the wheel..

Merch131

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813 posts

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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With the rear wheel back in the bike, I could fit the chain and the rest of the clutch and torque up the big pulley nuts which hold everything together.

Merch131

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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Once everything torqued up, I found a problem with the primary belt alignment which hadn't been evident till now. The front pulley (Which is bolted to the splined end of the crank) is 3mm out of line with the rear pulley. Turns out the belt drive kit includes a spacer to fit behind the front pulley in case its needed. But in the years since I've owned the kit, its been lost. Normally it wouldnt be a big problem, I'd just machine a spacer and problem solved. But I really didn't want to remove that front pulley, as the steel pulley insert needed to be heated to get it to slide on to the crankshaft. It wouldn't be easy to remove it.

Because the belt overhung the edge of the front pulley by 3mm, the alloy guide plate which bolts to the side of the pulley wouldn't fit without fouling the belt. I couldn't just leave it off, as it ensures the belt doesn't run off the pulley.



Edited by Merch131 on Saturday 29th November 20:56