kawasaki ninja supercharged h2
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WinstonWolf said:
Adjusted for inflation, 35k in 1993 is about 55.5k now, so the bike is probably only just ahead of inflation. I hope your pension is doing better than that!Lincsblokey said:
davel* said:
300bhp...in a 'road' bike!!
Who on earth at Kawasaki rode a S1000RR/Panigale and thought this is a bit slow, could really do with another 100bhp
well, being pedantic, its 135bhp more than a panigirly!Who on earth at Kawasaki rode a S1000RR/Panigale and thought this is a bit slow, could really do with another 100bhp
SS7
WinstonWolf said:
I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously after you did all those s
t Direct line adverts.I mean an NSX to a GT86?
Bad times.
moanthebairns said:
An order has been placed at Kirkcaldy Kawasaki for one of these today.
£5,000 deposit. ouch.
It's peanuts for many people though. People who throw hundreds of thousands at cars won't think twice about tens of thousands for a bike. £5,000 deposit. ouch.
About time there was some proper exotica on the market again!
moanthebairns said:
An order has been placed at Kirkcaldy Kawasaki for one of these today.
£5,000 deposit. ouch.
If it was usable on the road, then I'd have bought one. I can't justify it for a bike that can only be ridden on trackdays and that assumes that it complies with noise limits. If not then it can't be ridden on the road, it can't be raced and its too loud for trackdays. So it would have to be an ornament. £5,000 deposit. ouch.
srob said:
Couldn't you just SVA it?
Unlikely because it would not have the correct type approval.I spoke with Bournemouth Kawasaki yesterday and was also informed of the £5k down payment but they thought the 'R' version would be circa £25k which is a world apart from £50k!!! I'm not overly keen on the tin frame either - I expected something more exotic than a candy green metal flake, regardless of how it looks.
I would love for them to supercharge a 1400 as they have already done that with the Jetski engine but I guess that as BMW has stolen the thunder from the ZX10 they had to do something about it.
Oh well the money stays in the bank a bit longer
Lincsblokey said:
According to Bike Social its going to be 50k......... 50...thousand.....pounds.....
Love to know where that info came from, as I spoke to Howard Dale (head of Kawasaki UK) at the launch and he didn't know how much the H2R was going to cost, nor how many were going to come to the UK - he said it would be a very low number, but didn't know until he and the European HQ had discussed next year's plans.
bass gt3 said:
Thats the interesting part.
Compressors, regardless of how they're driven have quite a narrow operating range.Superchargersruninthe low rpm due to being mechanically driven whereas turbo's require exhaust gases to run hence come alive in the upper rpm range. You only need to look at turbo cars characteristics to see this,or go to the Garrett site and look at the compressor maps to see the narrow operating ranges of their turbo's. This is fine for a 2k to 6-7k rev range in a car, but it'll be interesting to see how Kawasaki have managed to make the compressor functionover a bike engines typical rev range. Even 2k to 10k is way outside any compressors range, let alone 14k as most superbikes rev to now. Useablepower won't be an issue as it's simple to regulate the amount of boost vs rpm (something Mr Turbo R1 should look in to!!). Solooking at the compressor,it's only really going to functionat a certain rpmband. outidethis,itwon't be pushing enough air to make a difference,orit won't be able to spin fast enough to supply the motor with air that isn't superheated by the compression process. Which is another issue, you can't just spin a compressor faster and faster, it will just overheat the air and destroy the motor. Especially as it looksnot to be intercooled? Once again, narrow operating window.
The other problem is forced induction motors can't run the high static compression ratios typical in high performance N/A motors. Hence the off boost performance suffers until the boost rises sufficiently to compensate.
Can't wait to see what they've done though....
It all takes me back to lecturezzzzzzz (that really should have been interesting) about this kind of thingCompressors, regardless of how they're driven have quite a narrow operating range.Superchargersruninthe low rpm due to being mechanically driven whereas turbo's require exhaust gases to run hence come alive in the upper rpm range. You only need to look at turbo cars characteristics to see this,or go to the Garrett site and look at the compressor maps to see the narrow operating ranges of their turbo's. This is fine for a 2k to 6-7k rev range in a car, but it'll be interesting to see how Kawasaki have managed to make the compressor functionover a bike engines typical rev range. Even 2k to 10k is way outside any compressors range, let alone 14k as most superbikes rev to now. Useablepower won't be an issue as it's simple to regulate the amount of boost vs rpm (something Mr Turbo R1 should look in to!!). Solooking at the compressor,it's only really going to functionat a certain rpmband. outidethis,itwon't be pushing enough air to make a difference,orit won't be able to spin fast enough to supply the motor with air that isn't superheated by the compression process. Which is another issue, you can't just spin a compressor faster and faster, it will just overheat the air and destroy the motor. Especially as it looksnot to be intercooled? Once again, narrow operating window.
The other problem is forced induction motors can't run the high static compression ratios typical in high performance N/A motors. Hence the off boost performance suffers until the boost rises sufficiently to compensate.
Can't wait to see what they've done though....
Fire99 said:
Personally I think it's utterly barmy and stonkin'.
Exactly what Kawasaki should be doing, coming out with something that's sheer lunacy and gets the headlines. Even after looking at the articles a few times, I'm still somewhat in shock. It's bonkers..
I reckon it probably needs more rubber in the ground with a flatter profile, say with 2 wheels at the back and improved stability, with, say 2 wheels at the front too.Exactly what Kawasaki should be doing, coming out with something that's sheer lunacy and gets the headlines. Even after looking at the articles a few times, I'm still somewhat in shock. It's bonkers..
It might make for a great Caterham.
MC Bodge said:
I reckon it probably needs more rubber in the ground with a flatter profile, say with 2 wheels at the back and improved stability, with, say 2 wheels at the front too.
It might make for a great Caterham.
It might make for a great Caterham.
Given the love for high revving engines in kit cars (Honda V-Tec and 1L+ bike engines), a 300bhp OEM supercharged block might be very appealing to the scene!
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