kawasaki ninja supercharged h2

kawasaki ninja supercharged h2

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gareth_r

5,726 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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If so, why? Current 1000c sports bikes are already tiny, if they made them any smaller you'd have to be a jockey or a Moto GP rider to fit on them.

Would a blown 750 be lighter than a N/A 1000? The running gear and engine castings have to deal with with the same power, plus there's the weight of the supercharger, charge cooler, bypass, and blow-off valve, so where's the saving?

Perhaps it's just so that Kawasaki can claim some ludicrously unrealistic fuel consumption/emission numbers by running the bike off boost with an open bypass valve and the supercharger drive clutch disengaged. smile

Edited by gareth_r on Tuesday 16th September 18:00

itannum990

275 posts

115 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I'd have thought it'd be more of a tourer type, smallish engine to keep weight and size down, better economy, and a full fat spread of torque - neither peaky nor lacking at the top end.

ylovebuffalo

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216 posts

162 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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itannum990 said:
I'd have thought it'd be more of a tourer type, smallish engine to keep weight and size down, better economy, and a full fat spread of torque - neither peaky nor lacking at the top end.
didnt look like a tourer in the vid tbh!

bogie

16,382 posts

272 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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It appears to be a sports bike with more power than a ZZR1400 ....maybe they can get the weight down sub 180kg and over 220bhp. I guess they need to if the new R1 is going to be 220bhp ish

power sells...as the sales of ZZR1400s shows... and the biggest, baddest and fastest strategy has always been a big seller for Kawasaki smile

Fire99

9,844 posts

229 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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A slightly simplistic answer but in the 'litre class' power has been pushed well up the rev-range and IMO has made them (relatively) a bit peaky! I also wonder how far they can go with tuning of a N/A 1000cc bike to keep at the top of the HP league but also retain road-rideability and long term reliability.

Perhaps now F.I is getting pretty sophisticated in smaller packages, we'll see that being used to bring the low down torque back and keep the headline HP figures (whilst still keeping the weight down)

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the start of a new chapter of road-going superbikes.

Just some random thoughts of course.. smile

clen666

925 posts

122 months

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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clen666 said:
Probably not reliable, but a good guess I think. I hope that Kawasaki use this as an opportunity to create something mental, rather than using it to make something on par with the current litre crop but with 40% better fuel economy or something like that.

ylovebuffalo

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216 posts

162 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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http://www.ninja-h2.com/video.html

looks like a turbocharger with an electric compressor to take out lag at low rpm?

ylovebuffalo

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216 posts

162 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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my bad......i meant centrifugal supercharger lol

http://www.procharger.com/centrifugalsupercharger....

ylovebuffalo

Original Poster:

216 posts

162 months

ylovebuffalo

Original Poster:

216 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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http://www.ninja-h2.com/video.html

latest teaser vid....boring....

ylovebuffalo

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216 posts

162 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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http://www.ninja-h2.com/video.html

looks good in carbon....

dapearson

4,315 posts

224 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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ylovebuffalo said:
http://www.ninja-h2.com/video.html

looks good in carbon....
hmmm

I was hoping this was going to be a large production run bike, therefore making it affordable.

But seeing carbon fibre means it's going to be expensive.

And that vid shows wings! Surely aero on a bike is an odd idea?!

ylovebuffalo

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216 posts

162 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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dapearson said:
hmmm

I was hoping this was going to be a large production run bike, therefore making it affordable.

But seeing carbon fibre means it's going to be expensive.

And that vid shows wings! Surely aero on a bike is an odd idea?!
I'm assuming the wings are just for high speed stability.....i'd be suprised if the production version has exposed carbon fibre but yh...i agree it indicates it will come with a 'premium' price tag.

grahamr88

421 posts

173 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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dapearson said:
And that vid shows wings! Surely aero on a bike is an odd idea?!
A way to keep the front wheel down?

dapearson

4,315 posts

224 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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grahamr88 said:
A way to keep the front wheel down?
I was more thinking that aero on a bike is a bit odd because of lean angle. On a car it's always kept parallel to the ground so force is always acting in the right direction to increase grip.

But on a bike it's going to act differently depending on lean angle. At high lean angles it'll actually push the bike wide?

grahamr88

421 posts

173 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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It is hard to imagine how they could implement it usefully and reliably, and it seems a little pointless since (I assume) no racing regulations would permit it. It could be quite a interesting form of high-ish speed anti-wheelie, although given the potential craziness of this bike, maybe it's more likely to be a pro-wheelie system; set up to maximise the stability of high speed wheelies!

Momentofmadness

2,364 posts

241 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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grahamr88 said:
dapearson said:
And that vid shows wings! Surely aero on a bike is an odd idea?!
A way to keep the front wheel down?
Kwak have already made a bike with little wings :



wink

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Most sanitary towels come with bigger wings than that.

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Hooli said:
s3fella said:
I had a go on a Kawasaki jet ski that had a 'turbo' on it the guy said and it was insane. 320hp he reckons and I cauldron beleive it.
You just threw that in the pot & stirred? wink
Uh-oh, there's trouble brewing. Probably the odd hubble, maybe a bubble or two, if we toil enough...