POLITE - Hi-Vis Vest

[Beartato]

ZiggyNiva said:

...Obviously we would all be riding\driving with in the law anyway so even if it was a police bike you would continue to ride\drive in the same way you already were.

I probably wouldn't be. I'm guessing that's true for quite a lot on here, do you never speed?

The people that wear those vests are pathetic tts. They don't wear the vest to be more visible, they wear the vest because they enjoy people thinking that they're in the police. If someone is so desperate for a fleeting impression of power then I will judge them, and harshly.

How mundane and sallow must a man be if being in the police is some sort of unattainable dream which can only be hinted at through being a cock?

[black-k1]

Beartato said:

The people that wear those vests are pathetic tts. They don't wear the vest to be more visible, they wear the vest because they enjoy people thinking that they're in the police. If someone is so desperate for a fleeting impression of power then I will judge them, and harshly.

And how do you know this?

[black-k1]

creampuff said:

City of London police also FJRs.

I've also seen a few marked up plod VFR1200s around town.

[Beartato]

black-k1 said:

And how do you know this?

Two vests. One without polite on it, one with. Both are equally visible, only one makes people briefly think you are the police. Give me any other reason for choosing the polite vest.

[anonymous-user]

Beartato said:

black-k1 said:

And how do you know this?

Two vests. One without polite on it, one with. Both are equally visible, only one makes people briefly think you are the police. Give me any other reason for choosing the polite vest.

^^^
What he said.
If it's just to increase visibility and pass on a genuinely polite notice, why is the "POLITE" bit always in a much more prominent often-highlighted font than the rest of the wording?

[anonymous-user]

black-k1 said:

creampuff said:

City of London police also FJRs.

I've also seen a few marked up plod VFR1200s around town.

You mean these? Special Escort Group. Do stuff like get Charles and Camille to the theatre on time and barge peasants out the way for Phil.

[black-k1]

Crossflow Kid said:

Beartato said:

black-k1 said:

And how do you know this?

Two vests. One without polite on it, one with. Both are equally visible, only one makes people briefly think you are the police. Give me any other reason for choosing the polite vest.

^^^
What he said.
If it's just to increase visibility and pass on a genuinely polite notice, why is the "POLITE" bit always in a much more prominent often-highlighted font than the rest of the wording?

Perhaps because it makes some people look twice which has to be better than looking once!

We don't know if vests with/without the wording are equally visible or a seen the same proportion of the time.

Why get worked up that total strangers you're never likely to meet were a floro vest with the word POLITE on it?

Motorcyclist tend to expect a degree of tolerance from other road users. (To aid filtering, to not report small plates/load exhausts/near ballistic speeds etc. I think we should show a little tolerance ourselves!

[black-k1]

Crossflow Kid said:

black-k1 said:

creampuff said:

City of London police also FJRs.

I've also seen a few marked up plod VFR1200s around town.

You mean these? Special Escort Group. Do stuff like get Charles and Camille to the theatre on time and barge peasants out the way for Phil.

Not just those. I've seen a few full "Battenberg" versions parked near the UOL when the students were protesting at something or other. (Booze not cheap enough in the union bar, having to get out of bed before lunchtime to attend lectures, being expected to get jobs after their course to pay back their loan, that sort of thing ...)

[anonymous-user]

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

Beartato said:

black-k1 said:

And how do you know this?

Two vests. One without polite on it, one with. Both are equally visible, only one makes people briefly think you are the police. Give me any other reason for choosing the polite vest.

^^^
What he said.
If it's just to increase visibility and pass on a genuinely polite notice, why is the "POLITE" bit always in a much more prominent often-highlighted font than the rest of the wording?

Perhaps because it makes some people look twice which has to be better than looking once!

We don't know if vests with/without the wording are equally visible or a seen the same proportion of the time.

Why get worked up that total strangers you're never likely to meet were a floro vest with the word POLITE on it?

Motorcyclist tend to expect a degree of tolerance from other road users. (To aid filtering, to not report small plates/load exhausts/near ballistic speeds etc. I think we should show a little tolerance ourselves!

But it doesn't make people assess the situation twice does it? It makes them re-read the wording and ask themselves "DOes it say what I think it says?", so from where I'm sat these bloody vests are more of a distraction than a benefit.
And I never expect any additional tolerance from other road users. If I need them to make allowances for my filtering I'm doing it wrong.

[creampuff]

black-k1 said:

I've also seen a few marked up plod VFR1200s around town.

Yes! Here's one meeting a Toyota Prius.

[black-k1]

Crossflow Kid said:

But it doesn't make people assess the situation twice does it? It makes them re-read the wording and ask themselves "DOes it say what I think it says?", so from where I'm sat these bloody vests are more of a distraction than a benefit..

Then don't wear one! Other people may have a different view to you. Doesn't make them wrong and you right, just different.

Crossflow Kid said:

And I never expect any additional tolerance from other road users. If I need them to make allowances for my filtering I'm doing it wrong.

Really? I don't think I'll ever managed to ride so well that I won't require at least a bit of occasional tolerance from other road users.

[Hooli]

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

And I never expect any additional tolerance from other road users. If I need them to make allowances for my filtering I'm doing it wrong.

Really? I don't think I'll ever managed to ride so well that I won't require at least a bit of occasional tolerance from other road users.

There is a big difference between expecting extra tolerance from other road users & being bloody grateful for it when you make a cockup.

[moanthebairns]

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

Beartato said:

black-k1 said:

And how do you know this?

Two vests. One without polite on it, one with. Both are equally visible, only one makes people briefly think you are the police. Give me any other reason for choosing the polite vest.

^^^
What he said.
If it's just to increase visibility and pass on a genuinely polite notice, why is the "POLITE" bit always in a much more prominent often-highlighted font than the rest of the wording?

Perhaps because it makes some people look twice which has to be better than looking once!

We don't know if vests with/without the wording are equally visible or a seen the same proportion of the time.

Why get worked up that total strangers you're never likely to meet were a floro vest with the word POLITE on it?

Motorcyclist tend to expect a degree of tolerance from other road users. (To aid filtering, to not report small plates/load exhausts/near ballistic speeds etc. I think we should show a little tolerance ourselves!

BOMB THE LOT OF THEM, mtb shouts in a George Galloway voice.

[anonymous-user]

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

But it doesn't make people assess the situation twice does it? It makes them re-read the wording and ask themselves "DOes it say what I think it says?", so from where I'm sat these bloody vests are more of a distraction than a benefit..

Then don't wear one! Other people may have a different view to you. Doesn't make them wrong and you right, just different.

I don't. But if someone gets distracted by trying to read what it does or doesn't say on another bikler's back that puts me at risk.

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

And I never expect any additional tolerance from other road users. If I need them to make allowances for my filtering I'm doing it wrong.

Really? I don't think I'll ever managed to ride so well that I won't require at least a bit of occasional tolerance from other road users.

Tolerance? Or cooperation?
Granted, I've exploited people's willingness to cooperate and thanked them accordingly, but I don't require it per se. Sure path to a nasty off.

[Walter Sobchak]

Baryonyx said:

fking horse riders, the most antisocial road users of the lot.

I've never had much of a problem with horse riders, it's cyclists that tend to be tts around here.

[anonymous-user]

Walter Sobchak said:

Baryonyx said:

fking horse riders, the most antisocial road users of the lot.

I've never had much of a problem with horse riders, it's cyclists that tend to be tts around here.

Don't tell me they st on the road too?

[black-k1]

Crossflow Kid said:

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

But it doesn't make people assess the situation twice does it? It makes them re-read the wording and ask themselves "DOes it say what I think it says?", so from where I'm sat these bloody vests are more of a distraction than a benefit..

Then don't wear one! Other people may have a different view to you. Doesn't make them wrong and you right, just different.

I don't. But if someone gets distracted by trying to read what it does or doesn't say on another bikler's back that puts me at risk.

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

And I never expect any additional tolerance from other road users. If I need them to make allowances for my filtering I'm doing it wrong.

Really? I don't think I'll ever managed to ride so well that I won't require at least a bit of occasional tolerance from other road users.

Tolerance? Or cooperation?
Granted, I've exploited people's willingness to cooperate and thanked them accordingly, but I don't require it per se. Sure path to a nasty off.

I require tolerance (as well as cooperation). Tolerance of the mistakes I make. Tolerance in the situations where I'm perhaps pushing the limits of the law (not that I would ever speed of course ) and tolerance in situations like filtering. I like cooperation but I, like many motorcyclist, filter in situations where tolerant road users will simply carry on with their driving and "do nothing" with regards to what I'm doing. Intolerant road users will make it difficult/impossible for me to filter safely, cooperative road users will get out of the way.

ETA the quote below

"Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population." ― Albert Einstein

Edited by black-k1 on Thursday 25th September 12:51

[McClure]

Walter Sobchak said:

Baryonyx said:

fking horse riders, the most antisocial road users of the lot.

I've never had much of a problem with horse riders, it's cyclists that tend to be tts around here.

They're worse than Hitler, they are.






(Just to complete the holy trinity )

[anonymous-user]

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

But it doesn't make people assess the situation twice does it? It makes them re-read the wording and ask themselves "DOes it say what I think it says?", so from where I'm sat these bloody vests are more of a distraction than a benefit..

Then don't wear one! Other people may have a different view to you. Doesn't make them wrong and you right, just different.

I don't. But if someone gets distracted by trying to read what it does or doesn't say on another bikler's back that puts me at risk.

black-k1 said:

Crossflow Kid said:

And I never expect any additional tolerance from other road users. If I need them to make allowances for my filtering I'm doing it wrong.

Really? I don't think I'll ever managed to ride so well that I won't require at least a bit of occasional tolerance from other road users.

Tolerance? Or cooperation?
Granted, I've exploited people's willingness to cooperate and thanked them accordingly, but I don't require it per se. Sure path to a nasty off.

I require tolerance (as well as cooperation). Tolerance of the mistakes I make. Tolerance in the situations where I'm perhaps pushing the limits of the law (not that I would ever speed of course ) and tolerance in situations like filtering. I like cooperation but I, like many motorcyclist, filter in situations where tolerant road users will simply carry on with their driving and "do nothing" with regards to what I'm doing. Intolerant road users will make it difficult/impossible for me to filter safely, cooperative road users will get out of the way.

ETA the quote below

"Laws alone can not secure freedom of expression; in order that every man present his views without penalty there must be spirit of tolerance in the entire population." ? Albert Einstein

Edited by black-k1 on Thursday 25th September 12:51

You've got a special vest, haven't you?

[ZiggyNiva]

Beartato said:

I probably wouldn't be. I'm guessing that's true for quite a lot on here, do you never speed?

The people that wear those vests are pathetic tts. They don't wear the vest to be more visible, they wear the vest because they enjoy people thinking that they're in the police. If someone is so desperate for a fleeting impression of power then I will judge them, and harshly.

How mundane and sallow must a man be if being in the police is some sort of unattainable dream which can only be hinted at through being a cock?

It was meant as a tongue in cheek comment (I just missed the smilie), but my point was that anything that makes you more aware of someone isn't a bad thing in my book. The number of times people have almost hit me be it on a bike, push bike or car and claimed they didn't see me means I don't see an issue with trying to stand out. I fully admit that these probably don't help any more then a normal hi-vis hence I would never get one.

Do you have proof they aren't warn because the wearer thinks they make them more visible?