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Discussion
George29 said:
He owes Kawasaki nothing?? He wouldn't be anywhere without them and I would bet he wouldn't be going to MotoGP without them taking a gamble on him. You think he could show his team some gratitude. He might not owe Sykes anything but fairly sure he does to his team.
Also I'm fairly sure you would moan a lot if your team mate took you out and essentially stopped you winning the world championship. I know I would.
Kawasaki pay Baz to ride as fast as possible.....he did his job...Also I'm fairly sure you would moan a lot if your team mate took you out and essentially stopped you winning the world championship. I know I would.
The bottom line is that Sykes lost the championship because he couldn't beat Sylvain..... Simple as that...
Manufacturers go racing to sell bikes, develop them and link success to their brands.
Riders are paid to ride fast, be successful and deliver what the manufacturer wants.
Championships are what people remember and manufacturers stop going racing when they're not successful. Baz's decision is understandable, but it makes him unattractive to manufacturers, sponsors and teams. It's a hotheaded immature decision and cost Kawasaki the world title, forget Sykes for a second, the same manufacturer that gave Baz a break, developed him as a rider, took the risk to employ a younger rider, invested in the body panels etc .... It's disrespectful to that commitment.
Also, as Kawasaki are Japanese owned, it's dishonourable and don't under estimate the impact for the rest of his career - unless he is so blindingly fast no one can afford to say no thanks - as I don't think he's going to be challenging any MGP front runners soon.
Sepang was one of a number of incidents, it was the culmination of Baz having contact with Sykes two or three times previously, this is where the a animosity started and Sepang capped it off.
2 man teams are 'teams' and we as fans never see half of the team orders that really go on, it's only when it's being played out so blatantly that we're able to comment on it. Personally I dislike them, but it is the reality of racing and future racing plans, budgets and resources are predicated on championships being won, when you look at it like that, Melandri and Baz's decisions are immature and not in the favor of our sport generally. Just think for a second, do we all really believe the only team orders we witness are the public ones .....Really??
For me, the real shame is that Guinters only really 'showed up' at the last round, however his approach has made him World Champion and all credit to him.
If ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd all be tinkers.
Riders are paid to ride fast, be successful and deliver what the manufacturer wants.
Championships are what people remember and manufacturers stop going racing when they're not successful. Baz's decision is understandable, but it makes him unattractive to manufacturers, sponsors and teams. It's a hotheaded immature decision and cost Kawasaki the world title, forget Sykes for a second, the same manufacturer that gave Baz a break, developed him as a rider, took the risk to employ a younger rider, invested in the body panels etc .... It's disrespectful to that commitment.
Also, as Kawasaki are Japanese owned, it's dishonourable and don't under estimate the impact for the rest of his career - unless he is so blindingly fast no one can afford to say no thanks - as I don't think he's going to be challenging any MGP front runners soon.
Sepang was one of a number of incidents, it was the culmination of Baz having contact with Sykes two or three times previously, this is where the a animosity started and Sepang capped it off.
2 man teams are 'teams' and we as fans never see half of the team orders that really go on, it's only when it's being played out so blatantly that we're able to comment on it. Personally I dislike them, but it is the reality of racing and future racing plans, budgets and resources are predicated on championships being won, when you look at it like that, Melandri and Baz's decisions are immature and not in the favor of our sport generally. Just think for a second, do we all really believe the only team orders we witness are the public ones .....Really??
For me, the real shame is that Guinters only really 'showed up' at the last round, however his approach has made him World Champion and all credit to him.
If ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd all be tinkers.
Manufacturers go racing to sell bikes, develop them and link success to their brands.
Riders are paid to ride fast, be successful and deliver what the manufacturer wants.
Championships are what people remember and manufacturers stop going racing when they're not successful. Baz's decision is understandable, but it makes him unattractive to manufacturers, sponsors and teams. It's a hotheaded immature decision and cost Kawasaki the world title, forget Sykes for a second, the same manufacturer that gave Baz a break, developed him as a rider, took the risk to employ a younger rider, invested in the body panels etc .... It's disrespectful to that commitment.
Also, as Kawasaki are Japanese owned, it's dishonourable and don't under estimate the impact for the rest of his career - unless he is so blindingly fast no one can afford to say no thanks - as I don't think he's going to be challenging any MGP front runners soon.
Sepang was one of a number of incidents, it was the culmination of Baz having contact with Sykes two or three times previously, this is where the a animosity started and Sepang capped it off.
2 man teams are 'teams' and we as fans never see half of the team orders that really go on, it's only when it's being played out so blatantly that we're able to comment on it. Personally I dislike them, but it is the reality of racing and future racing plans, budgets and resources are predicated on championships being won, when you look at it like that, Melandri and Baz's decisions are immature and not in the favor of our sport generally. Just think for a second, do we all really believe the only team orders we witness are the public ones .....Really??
For me, the real shame is that Guinters only really 'showed up' at the last round, however his approach has made him World Champion and all credit to him.
If ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd all be tinkers.
Riders are paid to ride fast, be successful and deliver what the manufacturer wants.
Championships are what people remember and manufacturers stop going racing when they're not successful. Baz's decision is understandable, but it makes him unattractive to manufacturers, sponsors and teams. It's a hotheaded immature decision and cost Kawasaki the world title, forget Sykes for a second, the same manufacturer that gave Baz a break, developed him as a rider, took the risk to employ a younger rider, invested in the body panels etc .... It's disrespectful to that commitment.
Also, as Kawasaki are Japanese owned, it's dishonourable and don't under estimate the impact for the rest of his career - unless he is so blindingly fast no one can afford to say no thanks - as I don't think he's going to be challenging any MGP front runners soon.
Sepang was one of a number of incidents, it was the culmination of Baz having contact with Sykes two or three times previously, this is where the a animosity started and Sepang capped it off.
2 man teams are 'teams' and we as fans never see half of the team orders that really go on, it's only when it's being played out so blatantly that we're able to comment on it. Personally I dislike them, but it is the reality of racing and future racing plans, budgets and resources are predicated on championships being won, when you look at it like that, Melandri and Baz's decisions are immature and not in the favor of our sport generally. Just think for a second, do we all really believe the only team orders we witness are the public ones .....Really??
For me, the real shame is that Guinters only really 'showed up' at the last round, however his approach has made him World Champion and all credit to him.
If ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd all be tinkers.
Tim85 said:
http://m.crash.net/wsbk/news/210514/1/sykes-baz-st...
Being from huddersfield aswell I obviously root for Sykes but gotta laugh at the tweet. Well done on your 5th place.. You must be proud.
A bit childish but never mind.
Guintolli deserved it and he took it home. Fair play
Fact is though that baz is moving into gp , sykes will remain a big fish in a little pond.Being from huddersfield aswell I obviously root for Sykes but gotta laugh at the tweet. Well done on your 5th place.. You must be proud.
A bit childish but never mind.
Guintolli deserved it and he took it home. Fair play
Johno said:
Manufacturers go racing to sell bikes, develop them and link success to their brands.
Riders are paid to ride fast, be successful and deliver what the manufacturer wants.
Championships are what people remember and manufacturers stop going racing when they're not successful. Baz's decision is understandable, but it makes him unattractive to manufacturers, sponsors and teams. It's a hotheaded immature decision and cost Kawasaki the world title, forget Sykes for a second, the same manufacturer that gave Baz a break, developed him as a rider, took the risk to employ a younger rider, invested in the body panels etc .... It's disrespectful to that commitment.
Also, as Kawasaki are Japanese owned, it's dishonourable and don't under estimate the impact for the rest of his career - unless he is so blindingly fast no one can afford to say no thanks - as I don't think he's going to be challenging any MGP front runners soon.
Sepang was one of a number of incidents, it was the culmination of Baz having contact with Sykes two or three times previously, this is where the a animosity started and Sepang capped it off.
2 man teams are 'teams' and we as fans never see half of the team orders that really go on, it's only when it's being played out so blatantly that we're able to comment on it. Personally I dislike them, but it is the reality of racing and future racing plans, budgets and resources are predicated on championships being won, when you look at it like that, Melandri and Baz's decisions are immature and not in the favor of our sport generally. Just think for a second, do we all really believe the only team orders we witness are the public ones .....Really??
For me, the real shame is that Guinters only really 'showed up' at the last round, however his approach has made him World Champion and all credit to him.
If ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd all be tinkers.
Nail on head.Riders are paid to ride fast, be successful and deliver what the manufacturer wants.
Championships are what people remember and manufacturers stop going racing when they're not successful. Baz's decision is understandable, but it makes him unattractive to manufacturers, sponsors and teams. It's a hotheaded immature decision and cost Kawasaki the world title, forget Sykes for a second, the same manufacturer that gave Baz a break, developed him as a rider, took the risk to employ a younger rider, invested in the body panels etc .... It's disrespectful to that commitment.
Also, as Kawasaki are Japanese owned, it's dishonourable and don't under estimate the impact for the rest of his career - unless he is so blindingly fast no one can afford to say no thanks - as I don't think he's going to be challenging any MGP front runners soon.
Sepang was one of a number of incidents, it was the culmination of Baz having contact with Sykes two or three times previously, this is where the a animosity started and Sepang capped it off.
2 man teams are 'teams' and we as fans never see half of the team orders that really go on, it's only when it's being played out so blatantly that we're able to comment on it. Personally I dislike them, but it is the reality of racing and future racing plans, budgets and resources are predicated on championships being won, when you look at it like that, Melandri and Baz's decisions are immature and not in the favor of our sport generally. Just think for a second, do we all really believe the only team orders we witness are the public ones .....Really??
For me, the real shame is that Guinters only really 'showed up' at the last round, however his approach has made him World Champion and all credit to him.
If ifs and ands were pots and pans, we'd all be tinkers.
Let's see if Baz is happy tooling around near the back of the MotoGP field next season.
Johno said:
Melandri and Baz's decisions are immature and not in the favor of our sport generally.
In principle I agree if I was part of a team and someone did that id be livid, not very professional at all. On the other hand I think its quite refreshing to see bike racing a bit more kind of real life compared to the likes of F1.
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