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[TommyBuoy]

moanthebairns said:

TommyBuoy said:

Went on Sunday, great show but very draining with all the people there.

R1 was great looking and the paint on the H2 was awesome.

Saw a young girl knock over one of the Ariel bikes, luckily she got out of the way before it hit the ground. Not sure why, but Ariel were one of the only guys to not use the sturdy bike stands or mark them not to sit on - accident waiting to happen.

Didn't stick around to see the damage...

Sorry but why not, I firmly would have rubber necked that one.

Yeah, bit annoyed I didn't go back, but the guys i was with had moved on and the crowd around the bike was massive, everyone trying to see the damage haha.

[y2blade]

Triumph need to do something, their whole line-up looks very stale and dated.
Nothing photo worthy at all.

[smithyithy]

y2blade said:

Triumph need to do something, their whole line-up looks very stale and dated.
Nothing photo worthy at all.

They're selling pretty damn well still..

I still think they need a litre sports bike, despite their claims that there's no market for one...

[y2blade]

smithyithy said:

y2blade said:

Triumph need to do something, their whole line-up looks very stale and dated.
Nothing photo worthy at all.

They're selling pretty damn well still..

I still think they need a litre sports bike, despite their claims that there's no market for one...

So you don't think the current line-up looks much the same as it has done for a few years now?
The 675 looks pretty much the same as it has since launch....Like I said, they look stale and dated.

Slap a Union Jack on anything and someone will buy it if priced right.

[moanthebairns]

y2blade said:

smithyithy said:

y2blade said:

Triumph need to do something, their whole line-up looks very stale and dated.
Nothing photo worthy at all.

They're selling pretty damn well still..

I still think they need a litre sports bike, despite their claims that there's no market for one...

So you don't think the current line-up looks much the same as it has done for a few years now?
The 675 looks pretty much the same as it has since launch....Like I said, they look stale and dated.

Slap a Union Jack on anything and someone will buy it if priced right.

Meh, I am about as un British as you can get without actually voting for it yet I bought 2.

They rule the 600 market, the 675 is actually worse looking that the original.

Whilst I can see where your coming from, its a bit like saying, "well I have Penelope Cruz sitting at home and have so for years, she's great she does everything you could want but sometimes I wish I could just trade her in for a shot of Jodie Marsh as a I fancy a change and a downgrade".

[smithyithy]

I think the 675 is the best of the 600 class, and the <12 model with the underseat exhaust (that I happen to own) is the best of the bunch.

Suzuki needs to refresh their range, Triumph don't really need to IMO..

[Prof Prolapse]

Suzuki have committed millions to refreshing everything. It's just work in progress.

The Japs have woken up I think. First Kawasaki, then Yamaha. Suzuki are similarly committed, and I'm sure Honda will follow (although I've not seen similar press releases). Don't forget this is nation who's modern trade ambition was built on the phrase "catch up and overcome".

Interesting times. Whether or not you like BMW they have done a great job of waking the sleeping giants. But I really don't see where it leaves Triumph though, they will get left behind at this rate. The British especially don't tend to buy because of national pride, they buy what's best. A lesson the bike industry should know well.

[moanthebairns]

smithyithy said:

I think the 675 is the best of the 600 class, and the <12 model with the underseat exhaust (that I happen to own) is the best of the bunch.

Suzuki needs to refresh their range, Triumph don't really need to IMO..

Surely you have forgotten the Gladius.

I mean even if it was sort of an okay bike, you couldn't go around saying "I ride a gladius, latin for sword don't you know". I mean its the gayest name for a bike I have ever seen.

[neelyp]

Triumph have actually built bikes people want to buy, at the right time i.e. adventure bikes and retro bikes. The Street Triple was also a great idea which still doesn't have any real competitors.
Why change a winning formula?

[Prof Prolapse]

neelyp said:

Triumph have actually built bikes people want to buy, at the right time i.e. adventure bikes and retro bikes. The Street Triple was also a great idea which still doesn't have any real competitors.
Why change a winning formula?

I'd say because you don't keep winning by not changing and the competitors are gearing up. That was my point before, the British bike industry is regarded by many to have died almost entirely by not keeping up with the Japs, it would be a shame to make the same mistake twice.

Also the Yamaha MT-09 is a budget competitor isn't it? It's got a triple and everything.

[moanthebairns]

Prof Prolapse said:

neelyp said:

Triumph have actually built bikes people want to buy, at the right time i.e. adventure bikes and retro bikes. The Street Triple was also a great idea which still doesn't have any real competitors.
Why change a winning formula?

I'd say because you don't keep winning by not changing and the competitors are gearing up. That was my point before, the British bike industry is regarded by many to have died almost entirely by not keeping up with the Japs, it would be a shame to make the same mistake twice.

Also the Yamaha MT-09 is a budget competitor isn't it? It's got a triple and everything.

it has one flaw, it looks fking st

[Prof Prolapse]

Definitely. I'm a triumph fan, but "complacency is devastating", and I agree with the other posters above.

[Johnny]

TommyBuoy said:

Saw a young girl knock over one of the Ariel bikes, luckily she got out of the way before it hit the ground. Not sure why, but Ariel were one of the only guys to not use the sturdy bike stands or mark them not to sit on - accident waiting to happen

Mrs Johnny wanted to sit and take one off the stand to get a feel for it... I was worried about her dropping it as she's not used to the weight. Had a chat with one of the Ariel guys and he was very helpful and told her to go go for it, he'd help if needed.

She thought it was great, with it not being on a fixed stand. He told us they we're supposed to be but they had been let down by the supplier. Seemed lots of people thought it was a plus point according to him...

[smithyithy]

I do think the one thing Triumph needs is a beefy new litre engine. Stick it in an upgraded Daytona and Speed triple and put the fight to BMW and their S1000's.

[y2blade]

smithyithy said:

I do think the one thing Triumph needs is a beefy new litre engine. Stick it in an upgraded Daytona and Speed triple and put the fight to BMW and their S1000's.

Triumph are focusing on the big Adventure "Riding to Costa coffee" market...........

[RumpleFugly]

y2blade said:

Triumph are focusing on the big Adventure "Riding to Costa coffee" market........... what sells.

EFA

Adventures and retro classics are what's popular at the moment, and Triumph cater well to this. They also have a lot more in the pipeline in this regards.

It's highly unlikely they will or should invest the money in big Daytona, they'd never see a return on it.

[The Moose]

Was at the show today. Not overly inspiring I felt.

Sitting above the M42 trying to get off the roundabout onto the motorway. fking cretinous artic drivers fking everything up.

[BigHeartedTone]

RumpleFugly said:

EFA

Adventures and retro classics are what's popular at the moment, and Triumph cater well to this. They also have a lot more in the pipeline in this regards.

It's highly unlikely they will or should invest the money in big Daytona, they'd never see a return on it.

Especially if they tell potential customers it should NOT be used on track

[Gareth1974]

WaferThinHam said:

Spectacular fanny award goes to the MT09 competition stand run by MCN I think?

Not sure I agree with that, I thought the MCN girls were low resolution foxes - there was a stunner on Ducati though, sat on a Panigale for ages in the hope that she'd come and take down my particulars.

[RemyMartin]

Is it wasrm enough inside to get away with just a tshirt on (and trousers) obviously.