almax grinded?
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No one said the weren't grindeable!
You cannot chop them (partly because there isn't a set of Rekords with big enough jaws) but they are not immune to an angle grinder.
The risk of someone using one is minimal due to the obvious noise and attraction it creates, but if someone wants your pride and joy badly enough they will have it. End of!
The more layers of security you add the more likely the thief will just move onto an easier target; however if your bike is on his list then he will have it one way or another
You cannot chop them (partly because there isn't a set of Rekords with big enough jaws) but they are not immune to an angle grinder.
The risk of someone using one is minimal due to the obvious noise and attraction it creates, but if someone wants your pride and joy badly enough they will have it. End of!
The more layers of security you add the more likely the thief will just move onto an easier target; however if your bike is on his list then he will have it one way or another
Almax or Pragamis can be cut with the correct tools. They can be cut easily with power tools such as a power grinder. They can be cut easily with a gas axe. As Wedg1e says they can also be cut another way which may be even less likely to attract attention.
Not many people have Almax/Pragmasis chains. Your bike is less likely to get stolen if you use one. Why mess with a 16mm chain if you are a crook when there are plenty of unchained bikes or bikes with a chain which can be cut with a nail clipper?
Not many people have Almax/Pragmasis chains. Your bike is less likely to get stolen if you use one. Why mess with a 16mm chain if you are a crook when there are plenty of unchained bikes or bikes with a chain which can be cut with a nail clipper?
AFAIK the 19mm Almax and Pragmasis chains (it is a 16mm shown cut in the picture above; blue sleeve = 16mm, maroon sleeve = 19mm for Almax) use the same padlock or the same with negligible spec changes to the 16mm chains. So the padlock may well be the weakest link. The padlock diameter is less than the chain diameter. The padlock is likely made of some exotic 1200MPa yield strength steel though.
creampuff said:
AFAIK the 19mm Almax and Pragmasis chains (it is a 16mm shown cut in the picture above; blue sleeve = 16mm, maroon sleeve = 19mm for Almax) use the same padlock or the same with negligible spec changes to the 16mm chains. So the padlock may well be the weakest link. The padlock diameter is less than the chain diameter. The padlock is likely made of some exotic 1200MPa yield strength steel though.
I pretty sure my Squire SS65CS says it's made of Boron on it. I assume an alloy containing Boron. Dunno which part of it or if all of it. Any good?creampuff said:
AFAIK the 19mm Almax and Pragmasis chains (it is a 16mm shown cut in the picture above; blue sleeve = 16mm, maroon sleeve = 19mm for Almax) use the same padlock or the same with negligible spec changes to the 16mm chains. So the padlock may well be the weakest link. The padlock diameter is less than the chain diameter. The padlock is likely made of some exotic 1200MPa yield strength steel though.
I've got a 16mm pragmasis with the SS65CS. The shackle is about 13mm iirc. But, as said, very limited access to it when it's closed around the 16mm chain.Costs a fair penny, but well worth it. The bike is located just underneath my window in a busy street. You'd have to be pretty brave to go at it with a grinder and there's plenty of bikes around my place without a chain attached anyway.
HiFiHunter said:
I pretty sure my Squire SS65CS says it's made of Boron on it. I assume an alloy containing Boron. Dunno which part of it or if all of it. Any good?
ZesPak said:
I've got a 16mm pragmasis with the SS65CS. The shackle is about 13mm iirc. But, as said, very limited access to it when it's closed around the 16mm chain.
Incidently, when photographing bikes it is a bit like photographing children: for best photos you should lower the camera down so you are photographing from the same height as the bike/child, rather than pointing the camera down from your own standing height. Makes for much better pics. The pic of the R1 you are looking down on the bike.
Sorry again that it got nicked.
Sorry again that it got nicked.
I had my garage broken into by a chap using a petrol angle grinder. He cut through a Chub battleship padlock and a Squire SS65CS. A petrol angle grinder usually used to cut paving slabs and concrete will cut though a padlock in a few minutes. All he needs is to appear to be working on site, high-vis, van with sign writing saying garage maintenance or vehicle recovery . . . job done 
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