Fast pull away, no wheelie

Fast pull away, no wheelie

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thatdude

2,655 posts

127 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Find the sweet spot where the throttle position gives a light front end but no wheelie

graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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OP - why do you not want to wheelie?

If it's not to draw attention then surely pulling away at the rate where the bike is picking up the front wheel despite trying to keep it down, then you will be attracting attention anyway?

If it's for drag racing then it's technique, the front will hover in the first couple of gears if you get the launch right, as your rate of acceleration will still be high & it shouldn't wheelie in 3rd.

I've had no troubling lauching various bikes like this, including drag racing my 990 Super Duke to a 10.8 run to launching my CR500 at sprints & hillclimbs - admittedly something like a Hayabusa is a bit more idiot proof to launch but that will spin if grip isn't too good.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Your wheelies are garbage tongue out
I remember them guys
I knew you would, I have a few of their DVDs.


"Yo Wheeliz is garbage"


Lee540

1,586 posts

144 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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graham22 said:
admittedly something like a Hayabusa is a bit more idiot proof to launch but that will spin if grip isn't too good.
I currently find this, even in the dry. I usually put most of my weight forwards to stop it lifting if I'm showing off, pulling away fast or whatever..

fergus

6,430 posts

275 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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bass gt3 said:
Also consider the chain tension. if it's a bit tight it will bind the rear suspension at the end of its travel and make the rear effectively solid so the bike will wheelie like a champ.
+1

Google "squat" and "anti squat" the angle the rear swingarm makes with the run of the chain on the big with massively affect the wheelie ability.

You also need to slip the clutch quite a bit to get a really good start (for a few seconds at least). Check out Simon Crafars MotoVudu series for more info.

Don't do what someone next to me on the grid in Cartagena back in May did and just drop the clutch and hang on. He slewed sideways straight into the pit wall and took 3 other bikes out. Complete tw@t.

graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Lee540 said:
graham22 said:
admittedly something like a Hayabusa is a bit more idiot proof to launch but that will spin if grip isn't too good.
I currently find this, even in the dry. I usually put most of my weight forwards to stop it lifting if I'm showing off, pulling away fast or whatever..
If you get your backside off the seat & weight over the tank, it's surprisingly easy to spin the rear on very new or slightly shiney tarmac, even with the bike already rolling - there's some nice new pieces near my folks at Illogan where you can leave a black line.

I guess on your commute you've discovered how slippery (fun) the slip road onto the A30 at Indian Queens is?

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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All in the clutch control. As said, keep your weight down over the front (visit McD's more often).

I think, it would take anyone a while in how to use every single horsepower, whilst remaining sat on the bike. wink

creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Eat a family meal at McDonalds or KFC every day for a month or so. Best anti wheelie countermeasures ever.

BTW did you know KFC is called "PFK" in Quebec?

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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creampuff said:
BTW did you know KFC is called "PFK" in Quebec?
I do now. Must be the French influence (Poulet Frit Kentucky). wink


creampuff

6,511 posts

143 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Indeed


DrDoofenshmirtz

15,228 posts

200 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I find my Blackbird is very difficult to power wheely, but it don't half get away quick. Long wheelbase?

TimmyWimmyWoo

4,306 posts

181 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Yep – the BB is a long old barge. I've had some fairly big (for a non-wheelying noob) power wheelies, but only by provoking it (ie off the throttle in first, then hard back on it – it comes up veeeery smoothly).

Biker's Nemesis

38,666 posts

208 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Your wheelies are garbage tongue out
I remember them guys
I knew you would, I have a few of their DVDs.


"Yo Wheeliz is garbage"
Chris, what was the name of those lads that did the video's.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Your wheelies are garbage tongue out
I remember them guys
I knew you would, I have a few of their DVDs.


"Yo Wheeliz is garbage"
Chris, what was the name of those lads that did the video's.
Ruff Ryders

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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"Ride or die"

Biker's Nemesis

38,666 posts

208 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Your wheelies are garbage tongue out
I remember them guys
I knew you would, I have a few of their DVDs.


"Yo Wheeliz is garbage"
Chris, what was the name of those lads that did the video's.
Ruff Ryders
Cheers, wanders off to u tube.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 21st November 2014
quotequote all
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Your wheelies are garbage tongue out
I remember them guys
I knew you would, I have a few of their DVDs.


"Yo Wheeliz is garbage"
Chris, what was the name of those lads that did the video's.
Ruff Ryders
Cheers, wanders off to u tube.
Lil buffalo.

Biker's Nemesis

38,666 posts

208 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
y2blade said:
Your wheelies are garbage tongue out
I remember them guys
I knew you would, I have a few of their DVDs.


"Yo Wheeliz is garbage"
Chris, what was the name of those lads that did the video's.
Ruff Ryders
Cheers, wanders off to u tube.
Lil buffalo.
I can't find a clip of him shouting "yo wheelies are garbage"

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Ffs i'm not holding your hand.

y2blade

56,106 posts

215 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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And i'm not digging the dvds out!!!!

The guy says it for about 80% of it!! Lol