MV Agusta Brutale
Discussion
neelyp said:
It may have been the Daytona was the new toy so I used it more. I think if I was forced to sell one of them I would struggle to decide which one to let go, they're both great bikes in their own way, though the Daytona is torture at town work it really comes into it's own on the open road, the Street is pretty good at both.
I'm glad I got the Street first, if I had bought a Daytona as my re-introduction to bikes I fear it may have put me off all together, it's a harder bike to ride, but with three years experience it wasn't a problem.
The last sentence is what has me thinking. I'm glad I got the Street first, if I had bought a Daytona as my re-introduction to bikes I fear it may have put me off all together, it's a harder bike to ride, but with three years experience it wasn't a problem.
I wonder whether the Daytona would be too focused on the sports aspect, instead of the MT-09 which is a bit more multi-tool. My thought train on this is that I think I'd rather start on something middle of the road and in a few years jump onto something more focused.
Much thinking to be done.
If anyone can comment on either bike, it would be appreciated.
Wildfire said:
When I tested the Daytona, it was possibly the most accomplished middle weight I've ridden, but, to me anyway, just not that exciting. Well not my ZX6-R plus a big wedge of cash exciting. But if I was to walk into a new, first sports bike, you won't go wrong. It will save you trying to make another bike: faster, handle better etc. it's an all round great bike.
I think it all depends on what sort of riding and where you will be doing it? I love my Monster for blatting about town, you can wring it out (it's only the M600) and feel like you're using it, without feeling like you're about to lose your license. Out and about in the countryside, it's underpowered and a bit of a chore on motorways (both power and wind protection).
I think it all depends on what sort of riding and where you will be doing it? I love my Monster for blatting about town, you can wring it out (it's only the M600) and feel like you're using it, without feeling like you're about to lose your license. Out and about in the countryside, it's underpowered and a bit of a chore on motorways (both power and wind protection).
ZesPak said:
As above, reputation is one thing and albeit usually not completely unfounded, often not very true to date.
What does speak volumes is your warranty. If you're going to cover miles, warranty is a big thing. If Honda offers 3 years unlimited miles and BMW only 2, and you want to cover a lot of miles, the choice is easy.
The other thing is, to me it's a lot like fuel. If you only do a couple of thousand miles pa, higher fuel consumption will hardly matter. As will higher maintenance. Keeping a bike like a litre ducati in check for 15000 miles/year will probably cost you loads more than a Blade. However, make that 2000 miles/year, and the difference won't be that huge. On top of that, you're riding the bike you want.
In short, if you don't do a lot of miles, I wouldn't take service/fuel consumption into account at all and just get what you want. In the end, you're probably not getting it because you need it either, so why stop half way? If you go to the hookers, and she says it's £50 if you don't cum and £70 if you do, how much are you going to pay?
What I'm saying is, what colour do you prefer on the Brutale?
Thanks guys, good points.What does speak volumes is your warranty. If you're going to cover miles, warranty is a big thing. If Honda offers 3 years unlimited miles and BMW only 2, and you want to cover a lot of miles, the choice is easy.
The other thing is, to me it's a lot like fuel. If you only do a couple of thousand miles pa, higher fuel consumption will hardly matter. As will higher maintenance. Keeping a bike like a litre ducati in check for 15000 miles/year will probably cost you loads more than a Blade. However, make that 2000 miles/year, and the difference won't be that huge. On top of that, you're riding the bike you want.
In short, if you don't do a lot of miles, I wouldn't take service/fuel consumption into account at all and just get what you want. In the end, you're probably not getting it because you need it either, so why stop half way? If you go to the hookers, and she says it's £50 if you don't cum and £70 if you do, how much are you going to pay?
What I'm saying is, what colour do you prefer on the Brutale?
As far as the type of riding I'm expecting to do; it's purely going to be a 'weekend weapon'. Sunday rides, the occasionally trip to work on a Friday and 1 or 2 long distance rides to Wales etc.
I can't see myself doing more than 3-4000 miles a year and it will predominately be A/B roads.
The Daytona does seem like a great bike and ticks my 'go hard or go home' box. On the other hand, the MT-09 is supposed to be a lot of fun and a good starter bike.
The Brutale is off the table I think; although they are gorgeous, I'd rather something that is a little easier to maintain and source parts for initially. I don't fancy starting my biking life with something that is expensive, hard work and characteristic. From what I've heard, it's not a bike to ease you into riding.
J B L said:
The Beaver King said:
I've not heard anything negative about the Daytona, but I've heard the suspension on the MT-09 is a bit too soft and really benefits from a upgrade.
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Daytona has a very racey riding position I find. Properly arse up, head down, weight on wrists type. You absolutely need to try one..
If sports bike appeal a CBR600 is a very easy to get on starting point from my point of view.
As a first bike the MT09 makes more sense. They're not that expensive, don't lose much money if you want to shift it and it'll be a long time before you can feel the supposed cheapness of the suspension and find its limits.
More seasoned riders on here have tried it and found it a very fine motorcycle. I have personally tried a Tracer and absolutely loved it, the suspension never really feeling a weak point (though it might be slightly different than the naked. Don't know)
Agree completely; the reviews I've read are all from seasoned riders and experts. I probably won't even notice the suspension as I have no basis for comparison. I know quite a few of the DAS trainers have picked up the MT-09 and variants, they speak very highly of them.
And we've gone full circle 
I'm waiting on a call back about a 2008 Brutale 910; so we're are pretty much back to MV's again. Don't ask....
Very quickly, I've found a nice 910 for a pretty reasonable price. I'm keen on it, but there is something making me very cautious.
The bike has 3,500 miles from new (2008) and had 4 owners. Couple this with a circa £5500 asking price, I'm a little worried it might turn out to be a dog.
There are about 40 pictures from the dealer and it looks mint. I've spoken to them on the phone and it will come with a new MOT, it's had a full inspection and also has a pack of invoices for work done. Had a minor service in January 2015.
I would go and view it, but it is a fair distance away from me and I'm not going to get a chance to view it within the next couple of weeks.
So, risky? I need to speak to the dealer again and check if they are providing a warranty of some description.
Do I take a punt on it or walk away?
I'm waiting on a call back about a 2008 Brutale 910; so we're are pretty much back to MV's again. Don't ask....
Very quickly, I've found a nice 910 for a pretty reasonable price. I'm keen on it, but there is something making me very cautious.
The bike has 3,500 miles from new (2008) and had 4 owners. Couple this with a circa £5500 asking price, I'm a little worried it might turn out to be a dog.
There are about 40 pictures from the dealer and it looks mint. I've spoken to them on the phone and it will come with a new MOT, it's had a full inspection and also has a pack of invoices for work done. Had a minor service in January 2015.
I would go and view it, but it is a fair distance away from me and I'm not going to get a chance to view it within the next couple of weeks.
So, risky? I need to speak to the dealer again and check if they are providing a warranty of some description.
Do I take a punt on it or walk away?
Cheers for the comments.
Bike is a 58 plate, which I believe is a 2006 - 2010 model 910.
I had a long chat with the guy who owns the dealership last night. Top bloke by all accounts and seems really genuine about bikes; I get the impression that he is one of these guys that owns a dealership because he loves bikes and making money is an added bonus.
Speaking to him, he taxed it last week and used it to go to a local bike show. He reckons he's put 150 miles on it and he really rates the bike. It apparently came in last week, a bit dusty and sad. The previous owner was just not using it.
He went through the sales pack over the phone and it seems to have been well looked after. No invoices for any unusual or worry work/parts; mostly the standard service items.
It's had a power commander fitted, so the twitchy fuel map is much better. Rides like a dream, as far as a Brutale can according to him.
I'm going to speak to him today, but think I'm going to take the plunge. The bike looks too good to pass up and I'm hooked on the looks.
I'm hoping Tacklebury's experience was just unfortunate; I've generally heard okay things about MV's build and reliability of late.
Yeah, the dealer sounds like a pretty decent bloke. We were on the phone for a good 45 minutes and his passion came through loud and clear.
Probably one of the better dealer experiences I've had over the last few months; hence the purchase.
28 years old, less than one year riding, garaged at home, 3000 mile, fully comp. £360 a year.
Interestingly enough, a quote for a 910R pinged back £950 a year. Those few extra horses and nice suspension obviously up the risk
Probably one of the better dealer experiences I've had over the last few months; hence the purchase.
neil-f said:
Go for it 
I like my 910R, what I would say is have you had an insurance quote as they are expensive to insure.
I have. I like my 910R, what I would say is have you had an insurance quote as they are expensive to insure.
28 years old, less than one year riding, garaged at home, 3000 mile, fully comp. £360 a year.
Interestingly enough, a quote for a 910R pinged back £950 a year. Those few extra horses and nice suspension obviously up the risk
TackleburyUk said:
I suspect I was just unlucky with the bike, looks beautiful, I'll miss my 1078 but the love was lost so it's time to move on.
For info my insurance was £268, 34 yrs old, 3 yrs NCB
No doubt; my impression so far of MVs is they are much like TVRs. For info my insurance was £268, 34 yrs old, 3 yrs NCB
Great looking and wicked performance, but built to a budget and prone to failure. I'm fully expecting bits to go wrong with it, I just hope it is limited.
Did I read somewhere you had bought a Super Duke? I'm sure that will put the smile back on your face
Wildfire said:
92 - TVR Griffith, 56k, never failed an MOT driven in all weathers. Never let me down. Owned to 11 years and used as a DD until 2007, when I bought and Elise.
MV Agusta F3, covered 6000 miles in a year, no major issues. Tank replaced under warranty (even though it had expired 9 days before) shipped from Italy in 2 weeks. Ridden to Belgium and back in a hot day. Most I've ever done is 550 miles in a day.
As above, you've done really well, and I'm just talking about the TVR.MV Agusta F3, covered 6000 miles in a year, no major issues. Tank replaced under warranty (even though it had expired 9 days before) shipped from Italy in 2 weeks. Ridden to Belgium and back in a hot day. Most I've ever done is 550 miles in a day.
Although my S was pretty good, I still blew a few hoses and lost an alternator. My old man's Wedge, although immaculate, is a continuous battle chasing loose earths, replacing clutch pipes, fuel pipes, fuses and hoses.
I'm going in with my eyes wide open on this and the comparison to TVRs was not derogatory. They're hard work at times and have more issues than most other brands, but my God do they stir feels that very little else comes close to.
I'm getting the Brutale expecting it to go wrong more than one of the safe Japanese options, anything less is a big bonus
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