Fitting a HID Projector in a Honda Blackbird.
Discussion
balls-out said:
Although even being dynamic, its about load adjustment. Going over the brow of a hill will cannot be properly compensated for my monitoring suspension position.
No one is aiming for perfection. The expert consensus says it helps. It's also difficult to see how making no effort at all is a better alternative.
I went for a quick ride round the block earlier...my god - the difference is incredible.
The light beam is where it should be, and because it's so well focussed - you don't light up overhanging tree branches etc any more - they are completely dark now. You can't see the faces of oncoming drivers either...it's probably going to take some getting used to if I'm honest. But one thing if for sure - you can defiantly still see where you're going with oncoming traffic - their lights don't swamp out yours any more.
Full beam is just insane!
It just goes to show how much light you loose by fitting a HID bulb in a standard projector.
I would defiantly recommend doing this.
The light beam is where it should be, and because it's so well focussed - you don't light up overhanging tree branches etc any more - they are completely dark now. You can't see the faces of oncoming drivers either...it's probably going to take some getting used to if I'm honest. But one thing if for sure - you can defiantly still see where you're going with oncoming traffic - their lights don't swamp out yours any more.
Full beam is just insane!
It just goes to show how much light you loose by fitting a HID bulb in a standard projector.
I would defiantly recommend doing this.
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
Yes, it will pass.
A lot of people assumed that ALL HID or LED headlamps must have self levelling and washers, and that if they weren't fitted, it would fail. But this is incorrect. The MOT test states...
LED and HiD headlamps: automatic levelling or cleaning device inoperative or obviously defective.
If there is NO levelling or washer fitted - it's a pass. If they are fitted, and don't work - it's a fail.
There is an awful lot of ill-informed hearsay about this - but the above is FACT as the MOT test currently stands.
It's a bit simpler than that:A lot of people assumed that ALL HID or LED headlamps must have self levelling and washers, and that if they weren't fitted, it would fail. But this is incorrect. The MOT test states...
LED and HiD headlamps: automatic levelling or cleaning device inoperative or obviously defective.
If there is NO levelling or washer fitted - it's a pass. If they are fitted, and don't work - it's a fail.
There is an awful lot of ill-informed hearsay about this - but the above is FACT as the MOT test currently stands.
Edited by DrDoofenshmirtz on Saturday 3rd January 17:29
In the Department for Transport's (DfT) view it is not legal to sell or use after
market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID
Xenon.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606...
Just because it will get through an MOT doesn't make it legal.
Although the OPs build looks very smart, and if he's happy it doesn't dazzle on coming drivers, fair enough.
Max5476 said:
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
Yes, it will pass.
A lot of people assumed that ALL HID or LED headlamps must have self levelling and washers, and that if they weren't fitted, it would fail. But this is incorrect. The MOT test states...
LED and HiD headlamps: automatic levelling or cleaning device inoperative or obviously defective.
If there is NO levelling or washer fitted - it's a pass. If they are fitted, and don't work - it's a fail.
There is an awful lot of ill-informed hearsay about this - but the above is FACT as the MOT test currently stands.
It's a bit simpler than that:A lot of people assumed that ALL HID or LED headlamps must have self levelling and washers, and that if they weren't fitted, it would fail. But this is incorrect. The MOT test states...
LED and HiD headlamps: automatic levelling or cleaning device inoperative or obviously defective.
If there is NO levelling or washer fitted - it's a pass. If they are fitted, and don't work - it's a fail.
There is an awful lot of ill-informed hearsay about this - but the above is FACT as the MOT test currently stands.
Edited by DrDoofenshmirtz on Saturday 3rd January 17:29
In the Department for Transport's (DfT) view it is not legal to sell or use after
market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID
Xenon.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606...
Just because it will get through an MOT doesn't make it legal.
Although the OPs build looks very smart, and if he's happy it doesn't dazzle on coming drivers, fair enough.
Max5476 said:
It's a bit simpler than that:
In the Department for Transport's (DfT) view it is not legal to sell or use after
market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID
Xenon.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606...
Just because it will get through an MOT doesn't make it legal.
Although the OPs build looks very smart, and if he's happy it doesn't dazzle on coming drivers, fair enough.
In the Department for Transport's (DfT) view it is not legal to sell or use after
market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID
Xenon.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606...
Just because it will get through an MOT doesn't make it legal.
Although the OPs build looks very smart, and if he's happy it doesn't dazzle on coming drivers, fair enough.
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
This guide is for informational purposes only and not intended for road use.
(Hopefully this disclaimer will silence the mongs who always crawl out of the woodwork to bless us with their spurious legal b
ks whenever HIDs are discussed, but I doubt it 
)
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See...I knew this would happen...I just freakin knew it.(Hopefully this disclaimer will silence the mongs who always crawl out of the woodwork to bless us with their spurious legal b
ks whenever HIDs are discussed, but I doubt it ).
Well done.
[slow clap]
A lot of work to try & make your BB look like a Hayabusa 
Interesting that you're using the one unit for dip & high beam. The Hayabusa uses the projector unit for high bean but frankly it's terrible, dip isn't too bad but high beam is too narrow & focused.
In view of your report, I'm wondering if it's just worth changing my high beam to HID using the standard projector, it could benefit from more of a light scatter. How quickly does high beam 'spark up' with this conversion?.
Interesting that you're using the one unit for dip & high beam. The Hayabusa uses the projector unit for high bean but frankly it's terrible, dip isn't too bad but high beam is too narrow & focused.
In view of your report, I'm wondering if it's just worth changing my high beam to HID using the standard projector, it could benefit from more of a light scatter. How quickly does high beam 'spark up' with this conversion?.
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