the bb trackday thread.

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Biker's Nemesis

38,675 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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moto_traxport said:
Cough. Road bike only day. Cough. Barrel, fish, shoot. : hehe:
I was on my road bike which had a 2004 date stamped rear Pirelli Supercorsa on the rear and a Bridgestone BT 003 Battalax on the front, what else could I do, tie an arm behind my back?

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Biker's Nemesis said:
I would never pass there.

One of them adventure type things that are faster than sports bikes on the tight stuff.

It's OK though when he's a lot quicker than you. You need to post up another slow sports bike, not one of those adventure bikes, as they are just too quick. Did you see them at Thruxton at the weekend, fk me those GS's, Multistradas and Versys can't half shift round there.

Biker's Nemesis

38,675 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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I thought a pass here may be a bit tight, if it had of been Aky on the No14 HP4 I would have gone for the gap.


Biker's Nemesis

38,675 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
It's OK though when he's a lot quicker than you. You need to post up another slow sports bike, not one of those adventure bikes, as they are just too quick. Did you see them at Thruxton at the weekend, fk me those GS's, Multistradas and Versys can't half shift round there.
Yeah, they were that fast no one could see them.

Tim85

1,742 posts

135 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Has anyone tried to book this Friday at cadwell with no limits. The group's say pink and green rather than the usual novice etc. Thought it might be my phone but other days are normal

gwm

2,390 posts

144 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Mate's rearward facing camera, while MTB was still wobbling around. I clearly need to get off my seat more!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srJZx4o-L9g&fe...

ETA: Sound is terrible so I wouldn't bother.

Edited by gwm on Wednesday 5th August 19:56

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Tim85 said:
Has anyone tried to book this Friday at cadwell with no limits. The group's say pink and green rather than the usual novice etc. Thought it might be my phone but other days are normal
Stay clear. It's No Limits race weekend. All the racers are there and this is their test day. The groups are ACU only and capacity defined. There may be a slot for non racers, but it will still be full of them.

George29

14,707 posts

164 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Biker's Nemesis said:
I would never pass there.

One of them adventure type things that are faster than sports bikes on the tight stuff.

It doesn't matter how fast they are in the corners if you just park your bike in the way before they turn in smile

Only pic I can find of me overtaking at the hairpin is this one


hebegb

1,523 posts

147 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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George29 said:
LoonR1 said:
Not for me, I just can't see it as anything over than a pretty brutal pass if you're the same speed through there.
How so? All you have to do is take a wide line through the last bit of Hall Bends and it lines itself up beautifully! It's just a pretty simple block pass.
George - I must arrange a day out up there with Al Naylor and the lads on here , and yourself of course , then we shall know you are there and you can show us where exactly and how you do these passes , it was unfortunate that you did not seem to be aware we were all at Oulton the day you were there last ....
Hope to see you soon .

Biker's Nemesis

38,675 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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George29 said:
It doesn't matter how fast they are in the corners if you just park your bike in the way before they turn in smile

Only pic I can find of me overtaking at the hairpin is this one

That's the style.

George29

14,707 posts

164 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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hebegb said:
George - I must arrange a day out up there with Al Naylor and the lads on here , and yourself of course , then we shall know you are there and you can show us where exactly and how you do these passes , it was unfortunate that you did not seem to be aware we were all at Oulton the day you were there last ....
Hope to see you soon .
I openly admit I was shocking last time I was out at Oulton. First time riding for 3 months and in quite a bit of pain from my collar bone, still was worse than I expected! I'm not proclaiming to be super fast or anything, far from it, but passing at Cadwell isn't as difficult as being made out.

Will happily have a day out there when I get back up to speed. Determined to break 1:40 there, so will be trying to get up there quite a bit when I get back from Mugello,

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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George29 said:
LoonR1 said:
Not for me, I just can't see it as anything over than a pretty brutal pass if you're the same speed through there.
How so? All you have to do is take a wide line through the last bit of Hall Bends and it lines itself up beautifully! It's just a pretty simple block pass.
A "block" pass is a brutal pass on a trackday IMO. The wide line out of Hall Bends is a lot earlier as you effectively square the last two corners due to a late swooping line on the first left. My point is that it's not a good pass with someone of a similar pace on a trackday, there are better places

hebegb

1,523 posts

147 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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George29 said:
hebegb said:
George - I must arrange a day out up there with Al Naylor and the lads on here , and yourself of course , then we shall know you are there and you can show us where exactly and how you do these passes , it was unfortunate that you did not seem to be aware we were all at Oulton the day you were there last ....
Hope to see you soon .
I openly admit I was shocking last time I was out at Oulton. First time riding for 3 months and in quite a bit of pain from my collar bone, still was worse than I expected! I'm not proclaiming to be super fast or anything, far from it, but passing at Cadwell isn't as difficult as being made out.

Will happily have a day out there when I get back up to speed. Determined to break 1:40 there, so will be trying to get up there quite a bit when I get back from Mugello,
Breaking 1.40, and nothing else, would be a decent day !
Ps don't be shy - say Hi next time !

George29

14,707 posts

164 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
A "block" pass is a brutal pass on a trackday IMO. The wide line out of Hall Bends is a lot earlier as you effectively square the last two corners due to a late swooping line on the first left. My point is that it's not a good pass with someone of a similar pace on a trackday, there are better places
The only place I've been passed at Cadwell that I'd describe as brutal is up the inside of the gooseneck! There probably are better places to pass, but if you're on a 600 and someone in front is on a 1000, you have no chance really from coming out of Barn pretty much all the way to Mansfield.

Biker's Nemesis

38,675 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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a 1.40 where. train station or is that the price of a cup of tea from Greggs?

George, you bastid going to Mugello.

George29

14,707 posts

164 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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hebegb said:
Breaking 1.40, and nothing else, would be a decent day !
Ps don't be shy - say Hi next time !
Got down to either 1:41 or 1:42 last time I raced there, will have to dig out the timing sheet. It's definitely do-able. Al was doing 1:37s fairly consistently on Saturday/Sunday when I was there helping him out.

Didn't actually know you were there last time!

George29

14,707 posts

164 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Biker's Nemesis said:
George, you bastid going to Mugello.
I'm sure it won't be that good wink

hebegb

1,523 posts

147 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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Ps : is that Ross Walker on the trials bike you are diving under block passing - cos he's really slow on a proper bike ...?!
wink

Tim85

1,742 posts

135 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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LoonR1 said:
Stay clear. It's No Limits race weekend. All the racers are there and this is their test day. The groups are ACU only and capacity defined. There may be a slot for non racers, but it will still be full of them.
Ah no worries. I'll stay away. Was just going to be a last minute outing on my road bike as well so definitely better to give it a miss.

Andy XRV

3,844 posts

180 months

Wednesday 5th August 2015
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obscene said:
Andy XRV said:
My mate has slipped a disc so if anyone fancies Brands Indy tomorrow evening I'm sure he'll be up for deal.
Time and price? Might be interested smile
It cost 75.00 for evening so £ 50.00? Signing on is 4-4:30 I'm getting there for 3.30ish to say hello to Remal