the bb trackday thread.
Discussion
moanthebairns said:
gwm said:
moanthebairns said:
Anyway that's me done for the year. 17 trackdays, oulton, croft, Donnie, Anglesey, knockhill and cadwell.
Not bad seeing as I only ever done knockhill before.
Are you sticking with the Triumph for next year as well?Not bad seeing as I only ever done knockhill before.
upsidedownmark said:
Tyres.. sizes, choices, etc..
So, after various expoits this year, I have arrived at the situation where I have:
1) Bought an old ('99 5EB) R6 with brand new pilot roads (120/70/17 and 180/55/17)
2) Aiming to sell a ducati that currently has a pretty well knackered/nearly bald set of pirelli rosso somethings, same sizes as above.
3) A spare set of wheels for the R6.
My general thinking was to chuck the pilot roads on the duc to sell, get some 'scrubs' for the R6 in a rather sportier rubber, and sit on the spare set to see how much I use the R6 on the road - potentially have some road biassed rubber on them, or possibly some wets.
Looking around, 180/55 seems to be an unpopular size for track tyres, most seem to be either 180/60, or 190/55. I'm also a bit bewildered by the choice of compounds.
So:
1) Am I being daft/should I just get some sporty/road tyres, or buy something new for the ducati and leave pilot roads on the R6
2) if not 1), what should I be doing for the R6, does the size/profile make a significant difference to handling (upper-novice), assuming they will all fit in the first place.
3) I'm thinking more longevity good / harder compound? Given they should all be a step on from the sport/touring type stuff I'm used to
Sensible advice / rotten eggs appreciated - thanks
In your position I would stick the new-ish Pilot Roads on the Ducati to sell it. So, after various expoits this year, I have arrived at the situation where I have:
1) Bought an old ('99 5EB) R6 with brand new pilot roads (120/70/17 and 180/55/17)
2) Aiming to sell a ducati that currently has a pretty well knackered/nearly bald set of pirelli rosso somethings, same sizes as above.
3) A spare set of wheels for the R6.
My general thinking was to chuck the pilot roads on the duc to sell, get some 'scrubs' for the R6 in a rather sportier rubber, and sit on the spare set to see how much I use the R6 on the road - potentially have some road biassed rubber on them, or possibly some wets.
Looking around, 180/55 seems to be an unpopular size for track tyres, most seem to be either 180/60, or 190/55. I'm also a bit bewildered by the choice of compounds.
So:
1) Am I being daft/should I just get some sporty/road tyres, or buy something new for the ducati and leave pilot roads on the R6
2) if not 1), what should I be doing for the R6, does the size/profile make a significant difference to handling (upper-novice), assuming they will all fit in the first place.
3) I'm thinking more longevity good / harder compound? Given they should all be a step on from the sport/touring type stuff I'm used to
Sensible advice / rotten eggs appreciated - thanks
If your buying new tyres then go with some sticky fully treaded road tyres such as Pirelli Diablo Corsa or Metzeler M7RR - they are quite hard to find as part worns as most people run them til they're dead so if you're buying scrubs then you're looking at Supercorsas etc - less ideal / smaller sweet spot for upper novice type rider and the possible road use you describe. See if you find some wet scrubs for the spare wheels - it does make the difference between enjoying a rainy day compared to cruising around with gritted teeth.
Supersport tyres (5.5" wide wheel rim) always used to be 180/55 but are now moving towards 180/60 for increased footprint and faster steering for the proddie race tyres. Same deal happened a few years back as the Superbike tyres (6" wheels) went from road style 190/50 to more sporty 190/55's.
Fleegle said:
moanthebairns said:
I hope I didn't cause offence in pointing out your parachute jacket within moments of meeting; I thought you could handle it without a flounce, and so you did, admirably. It was your laptimes I had at heart, but the improved track photos without comedy hood are a happy coincidence
Have you tried one of these?
http://www.woodsmotorcycles.com/product/mfns13072-...
I have a similar one and it's brilliant not just for being waterproof but being windproof also keeps you warm. Mine's thicker material than this one and no longer made, so I can't vouch for this particular model though. A showerproof wind resistant running jacket under leathers also works well for warmth without restricting movement.
curlie467 said:
Tim85 said:
Looks like good fun mtb. Definitely looks like you've come on leaps and bounds this year and 17 trackdays is bloody good going!!
If he hadn't improved after 17 he should give up! All because I listened to the t
t at parkit telling me my suspension was spot on. moto_traxport said:
In your position I would stick the new-ish Pilot Roads on the Ducati to sell it.
If your buying new tyres then go with some sticky fully treaded road tyres such as Pirelli Diablo Corsa or Metzeler M7RR - they are quite hard to find as part worns as most people run them til they're dead so if you're buying scrubs then you're looking at Supercorsas etc - less ideal / smaller sweet spot for upper novice type rider and the possible road use you describe. See if you find some wet scrubs for the spare wheels - it does make the difference between enjoying a rainy day compared to cruising around with gritted teeth.
Supersport tyres (5.5" wide wheel rim) always used to be 180/55 but are now moving towards 180/60 for increased footprint and faster steering for the proddie race tyres. Same deal happened a few years back as the Superbike tyres (6" wheels) went from road style 190/50 to more sporty 190/55's.
Thanks, good information. The bit about the sweet spot gets my attention - can you expand? Bigger 'groove'? more warning?If your buying new tyres then go with some sticky fully treaded road tyres such as Pirelli Diablo Corsa or Metzeler M7RR - they are quite hard to find as part worns as most people run them til they're dead so if you're buying scrubs then you're looking at Supercorsas etc - less ideal / smaller sweet spot for upper novice type rider and the possible road use you describe. See if you find some wet scrubs for the spare wheels - it does make the difference between enjoying a rainy day compared to cruising around with gritted teeth.
Supersport tyres (5.5" wide wheel rim) always used to be 180/55 but are now moving towards 180/60 for increased footprint and faster steering for the proddie race tyres. Same deal happened a few years back as the Superbike tyres (6" wheels) went from road style 190/50 to more sporty 190/55's.
Part of the reason the ducati is going is that I have no clue where the grip is; I'd assumed the limiting factor would be me, but I've had a few too many 'moments' of which I had absolutely no warning that I could discern. Me, the bike or the tyres, decided the R6 might be a bit more friendly (and cheaper).
Outgoing tyres on the duc are pirelli diablo rosso II (had to look that up) - they've seen off about 4500 miles and 4 trackdays (1 wet), had them down as a pretty touring/longevity focussed tyre? Was assuming something more like the supercorsa / metzler racetechs would be more suitable and give me a bit more margin, sounds like that's a duff assumption?
Cheers..
mckeann said:
Lovely weather at Anglesey today. Ok yesterday too, bar a few spots of physcological rain at lunchtime.
Curlie just arrived, so I'm going to need to pack up now before I smash it. Someone has already crashed by getting too close to curlies mate John. He is cursed, I'm telling you.
fCurlie just arrived, so I'm going to need to pack up now before I smash it. Someone has already crashed by getting too close to curlies mate John. He is cursed, I'm telling you.
ks sake. 
Plop was cut short after a whopping crash involving 3 bikes, they used all the ambulances and the air ambulance too so red flagged it.
Hope all were OK.
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