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snorky782 said:
graeme4130 said:
Fun day at Silvertstone today on the GP Circuit. My 4th time there now, so starting to remember all the corners 
The forecast for the day was really quite bad, and the girl there said they'd had over 40 no shows, so fast group was probably only around a dozen of us, which made it nice and quiet, but actually a bit lonely at times as you could do 4 or 5 laps and only see one other bike.
The weather was really good, and actually pretty warm until the second session after lunch, when the heavens properly opened. I was knackered, so called it a day at that point rather than faffing about fitting wets and getting the last session in.
Interesting day, and got absolutely annihilated by Scott Redding on the track, who was there doing talks with Bennets, and then jumped on a 1299S for the first session after lunch. He's a nice guy and came and did talks in the garages for each group (Silverstone group you together in garages)
As there were so few in our group, He only made his Q&A with about 8 of us, and then stuck around and chatted with a few people. He seemed a nice lad and genuinely quite humble.
I wasn't expecting him to go out on track, but coming down the wellington straight under the bridge, I started to get hard on the brakes, only to have a bright red 1299S with a number plate come past me on full gas and hit the left/right section faster than I thought was possible. I did try and follow him, but after 3 corners he was well out of sight - The White Pramac leathers were a give away though. Spoke to him in the garage after and he said he just fancied a blast and actually misses track days with his mates where he can turn up and just ride without the whole session either trying to race him or just gawping at him as he lines up in the pit lane.
First time for me on Pirelli slicks, and they seemed to have more grip than I had balls to use them. Not dissimilar to Super Corsa's, but I'm hoping to get more than 2-3 track days out of them, and at £220 delivered, they're a lot cheaper too
Took another 5 seconds off my lap best there to have a fastest lap of 2mins 41
No youtube video of my arse this time though, as forget Gopro
Next stop Donnington on the 28th if anyone else from here is going ?
How did Scott Redding clear off? Last time you were at Silverstone you were c15 seconds a lap quicker than he went on his MotoGP bike last year The forecast for the day was really quite bad, and the girl there said they'd had over 40 no shows, so fast group was probably only around a dozen of us, which made it nice and quiet, but actually a bit lonely at times as you could do 4 or 5 laps and only see one other bike.
The weather was really good, and actually pretty warm until the second session after lunch, when the heavens properly opened. I was knackered, so called it a day at that point rather than faffing about fitting wets and getting the last session in.
Interesting day, and got absolutely annihilated by Scott Redding on the track, who was there doing talks with Bennets, and then jumped on a 1299S for the first session after lunch. He's a nice guy and came and did talks in the garages for each group (Silverstone group you together in garages)
As there were so few in our group, He only made his Q&A with about 8 of us, and then stuck around and chatted with a few people. He seemed a nice lad and genuinely quite humble.
I wasn't expecting him to go out on track, but coming down the wellington straight under the bridge, I started to get hard on the brakes, only to have a bright red 1299S with a number plate come past me on full gas and hit the left/right section faster than I thought was possible. I did try and follow him, but after 3 corners he was well out of sight - The White Pramac leathers were a give away though. Spoke to him in the garage after and he said he just fancied a blast and actually misses track days with his mates where he can turn up and just ride without the whole session either trying to race him or just gawping at him as he lines up in the pit lane.
First time for me on Pirelli slicks, and they seemed to have more grip than I had balls to use them. Not dissimilar to Super Corsa's, but I'm hoping to get more than 2-3 track days out of them, and at £220 delivered, they're a lot cheaper too
Took another 5 seconds off my lap best there to have a fastest lap of 2mins 41
No youtube video of my arse this time though, as forget Gopro
Next stop Donnington on the 28th if anyone else from here is going ?
On a slightly more serious note, if you're honest he would have have been barely visible by the time you exited the first corner and long gone before the second. There is a level that MotoGP riders ride at that we simply do not understand.
The three corners after the wellington straight are in quick succession, so you have a good view of him. He was monstrously fast and gone within a few seconds. The thing that struck me the most besides his corner entry speed was the rate at which he went from being upright on the brakes, to fully tipped into the corner and accelerating hard. I knew those guys were another level, but I was blown away by just how fluid and easy he made it look whilst carrying really silly speed... on a road bike with a number plate
moanthebairns said:
snorky782 said:
graeme4130 said:
Fun day at Silvertstone today on the GP Circuit. My 4th time there now, so starting to remember all the corners
The forecast for the day was really quite bad, and the girl there said they'd had over 40 no shows, so fast group was probably only around a dozen of us, which made it nice and quiet, but actually a bit lonely at times as you could do 4 or 5 laps and only see one other bike.
The weather was really good, and actually pretty warm until the second session after lunch, when the heavens properly opened. I was knackered, so called it a day at that point rather than faffing about fitting wets and getting the last session in.
Interesting day, and got absolutely annihilated by Scott Redding on the track, who was there doing talks with Bennets, and then jumped on a 1299S for the first session after lunch. He's a nice guy and came and did talks in the garages for each group (Silverstone group you together in garages)
As there were so few in our group, He only made his Q&A with about 8 of us, and then stuck around and chatted with a few people. He seemed a nice lad and genuinely quite humble.
I wasn't expecting him to go out on track, but coming down the wellington straight under the bridge, I started to get hard on the brakes, only to have a bright red 1299S with a number plate come past me on full gas and hit the left/right section faster than I thought was possible. I did try and follow him, but after 3 corners he was well out of sight - The White Pramac leathers were a give away though. Spoke to him in the garage after and he said he just fancied a blast and actually misses track days with his mates where he can turn up and just ride without the whole session either trying to race him or just gawping at him as he lines up in the pit lane.
First time for me on Pirelli slicks, and they seemed to have more grip than I had balls to use them. Not dissimilar to Super Corsa's, but I'm hoping to get more than 2-3 track days out of them, and at £220 delivered, they're a lot cheaper too
Took another 5 seconds off my lap best there to have a fastest lap of 2mins 41
No youtube video of my arse this time though, as forget Gopro
Next stop Donnington on the 28th if anyone else from here is going ?
How did Scott Redding clear off? Last time you were at Silverstone you were c15 seconds a lap quicker than he went on his MotoGP bike last year The forecast for the day was really quite bad, and the girl there said they'd had over 40 no shows, so fast group was probably only around a dozen of us, which made it nice and quiet, but actually a bit lonely at times as you could do 4 or 5 laps and only see one other bike.
The weather was really good, and actually pretty warm until the second session after lunch, when the heavens properly opened. I was knackered, so called it a day at that point rather than faffing about fitting wets and getting the last session in.
Interesting day, and got absolutely annihilated by Scott Redding on the track, who was there doing talks with Bennets, and then jumped on a 1299S for the first session after lunch. He's a nice guy and came and did talks in the garages for each group (Silverstone group you together in garages)
As there were so few in our group, He only made his Q&A with about 8 of us, and then stuck around and chatted with a few people. He seemed a nice lad and genuinely quite humble.
I wasn't expecting him to go out on track, but coming down the wellington straight under the bridge, I started to get hard on the brakes, only to have a bright red 1299S with a number plate come past me on full gas and hit the left/right section faster than I thought was possible. I did try and follow him, but after 3 corners he was well out of sight - The White Pramac leathers were a give away though. Spoke to him in the garage after and he said he just fancied a blast and actually misses track days with his mates where he can turn up and just ride without the whole session either trying to race him or just gawping at him as he lines up in the pit lane.
First time for me on Pirelli slicks, and they seemed to have more grip than I had balls to use them. Not dissimilar to Super Corsa's, but I'm hoping to get more than 2-3 track days out of them, and at £220 delivered, they're a lot cheaper too
Took another 5 seconds off my lap best there to have a fastest lap of 2mins 41
No youtube video of my arse this time though, as forget Gopro
Next stop Donnington on the 28th if anyone else from here is going ?
On a slightly more serious note, if you're honest he would have have been barely visible by the time you exited the first corner and long gone before the second. There is a level that MotoGP riders ride at that we simply do not understand.
king wait till you hear how I kept up with the mackenzies, smrz and rispoli to name a few..... I did tell him jokingly, that I'd give him a wave as I went past him on the track today. He laughed as you'd expect
Edited by graeme4130 on Wednesday 15th June 23:18
graeme4130 said:
I'd like to say I passed him then
The three corners after the wellington straight are in quick succession, so you have a good view of him. He was monstrously fast and gone within a few seconds. The thing that struck me the most besides his corner entry speed was the rate at which he went from being upright on the brakes, to fully tipped into the corner and accelerating hard. I knew those guys were another level, but I was blown away by just how fluid and easy he made it look whilst carrying really silly speed... on a road bike with a number plate
I'm only messing about, although if you watch the way they ride you'll see some of the key differences. Where we see a corner and think "Ooooo, I'll hang off the side, brake a lot, lean the bike over and throw my knee at the ground to show how fast I am", they think "Oooo a straight line as far as the eye can see, I'll barely touch the brakes, use the kerbs to the max and keep it pinned"The three corners after the wellington straight are in quick succession, so you have a good view of him. He was monstrously fast and gone within a few seconds. The thing that struck me the most besides his corner entry speed was the rate at which he went from being upright on the brakes, to fully tipped into the corner and accelerating hard. I knew those guys were another level, but I was blown away by just how fluid and easy he made it look whilst carrying really silly speed... on a road bike with a number plate
graeme4130 said:
The only thing I had on him (Apart from good looks and charisma, of course) was that he's been doing a bit of triathlon racing for his training, and I (Was, as I'm not any more) significantly faster than him at that
I did tell him jokingly, that I'd give him a wave as I went past him on the track today. He laughed as you'd expect
I can speak significantly more elegantly than him. What do I win. I did tell him jokingly, that I'd give him a wave as I went past him on the track today. He laughed as you'd expect
Edited by graeme4130 on Wednesday 15th June 23:18
moanthebairns said:
graeme4130 said:
The only thing I had on him (Apart from good looks and charisma, of course) was that he's been doing a bit of triathlon racing for his training, and I (Was, as I'm not any more) significantly faster than him at that
I did tell him jokingly, that I'd give him a wave as I went past him on the track today. He laughed as you'd expect
I can speak significantly more elegantly than him. What do I win. I did tell him jokingly, that I'd give him a wave as I went past him on the track today. He laughed as you'd expect
Edited by graeme4130 on Wednesday 15th June 23:18
snorky782 said:
graeme4130 said:
I'd like to say I passed him then
The three corners after the wellington straight are in quick succession, so you have a good view of him. He was monstrously fast and gone within a few seconds. The thing that struck me the most besides his corner entry speed was the rate at which he went from being upright on the brakes, to fully tipped into the corner and accelerating hard. I knew those guys were another level, but I was blown away by just how fluid and easy he made it look whilst carrying really silly speed... on a road bike with a number plate
I'm only messing about, although if you watch the way they ride you'll see some of the key differences. Where we see a corner and think "Ooooo, I'll hang off the side, brake a lot, lean the bike over and throw my knee at the ground to show how fast I am", they think "Oooo a straight line as far as the eye can see, I'll barely touch the brakes, use the kerbs to the max and keep it pinned"The three corners after the wellington straight are in quick succession, so you have a good view of him. He was monstrously fast and gone within a few seconds. The thing that struck me the most besides his corner entry speed was the rate at which he went from being upright on the brakes, to fully tipped into the corner and accelerating hard. I knew those guys were another level, but I was blown away by just how fluid and easy he made it look whilst carrying really silly speed... on a road bike with a number plate
He was leant right over and well into the corner before his brake light went off. Impressive stuff
moanthebairns said:
graeme4130 said:
The only thing I had on him (Apart from good looks and charisma, of course) was that he's been doing a bit of triathlon racing for his training, and I (Was, as I'm not any more) significantly faster than him at that
I did tell him jokingly, that I'd give him a wave as I went past him on the track today. He laughed as you'd expect
I can speak significantly more elegantly than him. What do I win. I did tell him jokingly, that I'd give him a wave as I went past him on the track today. He laughed as you'd expect
Edited by graeme4130 on Wednesday 15th June 23:18
Sebo said:
graeme4130 said:
Sebo said:
Graeme - can you post a link to the slicks you mentioned please?
Cheers
http://www.oponeo.co.uk/moto-tyre/pirelli-diablo-superbikeCheers
I can't find the link to the front, but this is the rear @£120 delivered. Front was £100
mckeann said:
Those particular slick tyre (the one aimed at trackday riders rather than racers) aren't all that good. They're cheap for a reason. You'd be better buying scrubbed supercorsa's for half the money, or just forking out for proper pirelli slicks if you want.
The bike came with some scrubbed Dunlop Slicks but I fancied some treaded tyres as I feared Brands would be damp so I put some new Diablo Supercorsas on it. TBH, they haven't inspired allot of confidence yet but that's probably as a result of them being new and it being damp.Where's the sweet-spot for wear Vs grip - be it treaded or slicks? Stef, the tyre guy at most NL days swears by continental tyres for being grippy, hard wearing and reasonably priced. Anyone used?
Sebo said:
The bike came with some scrubbed Dunlop Slicks but I fancied some treaded tyres as I feared Brands would be damp so I put some new Diablo Supercorsas on it. TBH, they haven't inspired allot of confidence yet but that's probably as a result of them being new and it being damp.
Where's the sweet-spot for wear Vs grip - be it treaded or slicks? Stef, the tyre guy at most NL days swears by continental tyres for being grippy, hard wearing and reasonably priced. Anyone used?
The Superstock1000 guys were doing 1:28 - 1:32 last year at Brands GP on SupercorsasWhere's the sweet-spot for wear Vs grip - be it treaded or slicks? Stef, the tyre guy at most NL days swears by continental tyres for being grippy, hard wearing and reasonably priced. Anyone used?
I use supercorsa's. Run them at 33 front and 26 rear (hot) and put them on a dry track. You can't expect any track tyre to be very good in the damp.
The trackday slick that Pirelli sell will last for ages but I found it let go without warning and I know lots of other people who hated it. Nobody I know has ever worn one out before they replaced it for something else.
The trackday slick that Pirelli sell will last for ages but I found it let go without warning and I know lots of other people who hated it. Nobody I know has ever worn one out before they replaced it for something else.
I've constantly heard good things about Conti's for a few years now. Not managed to use a set yet.
On the subject of hard Pirelli Superbike Pro slicks with the red lines:
They're black, round & cheap - what's not to like? If it's a bit of the pace then it doesn't matter too much - it's only a flipping trackday. Good for throttle control.
I bought a set (a front and two rears) that I cannot seem to wear out!
Got them cheap on the last day of Brno years ago but didn't use them. Put them on the R1 for the last day of Mugello, then put them on the GSXR that then expired on day 1 at Aragon due to blocked injectors, I robbed them off it prior to flogging the bike to a mate and stuck them back on the R1 to wear out this year in Jerez. Mate blew up the GSXR on day 1 (pattern emerging) and I suggested double-teaming the R1 and he was that grateful he insisted on using his new tyres. I think I'll stick them again on for Cartagena in October. The miles they've done (in the back of trucks mainly) and the amount of times they've been on and off wheels is astonishing. Indestructible!
On the subject of hard Pirelli Superbike Pro slicks with the red lines:
mckeann said:
Nobody I know has ever worn one out before they replaced it for something else.
They're black, round & cheap - what's not to like? If it's a bit of the pace then it doesn't matter too much - it's only a flipping trackday. Good for throttle control.
I bought a set (a front and two rears) that I cannot seem to wear out!
Got them cheap on the last day of Brno years ago but didn't use them. Put them on the R1 for the last day of Mugello, then put them on the GSXR that then expired on day 1 at Aragon due to blocked injectors, I robbed them off it prior to flogging the bike to a mate and stuck them back on the R1 to wear out this year in Jerez. Mate blew up the GSXR on day 1 (pattern emerging) and I suggested double-teaming the R1 and he was that grateful he insisted on using his new tyres. I think I'll stick them again on for Cartagena in October. The miles they've done (in the back of trucks mainly) and the amount of times they've been on and off wheels is astonishing. Indestructible!
Edited by moto_traxport on Friday 17th June 10:40
Haha, I'm not sure mileage in a lorry counts dude 
In all seriousness, if they were just a bit slower I wouldn't care, but I rode them on a friends R6 and it was the closest I've come to a high side without actually falling off, with no warning whatsoever. The rest of the day riding round on my fireblade on SC2's and I didn't have even a little bit of bother.
In all seriousness, if they were just a bit slower I wouldn't care, but I rode them on a friends R6 and it was the closest I've come to a high side without actually falling off, with no warning whatsoever. The rest of the day riding round on my fireblade on SC2's and I didn't have even a little bit of bother.
snorky782 said:
Sebo said:
The bike came with some scrubbed Dunlop Slicks but I fancied some treaded tyres as I feared Brands would be damp so I put some new Diablo Supercorsas on it. TBH, they haven't inspired allot of confidence yet but that's probably as a result of them being new and it being damp.
Where's the sweet-spot for wear Vs grip - be it treaded or slicks? Stef, the tyre guy at most NL days swears by continental tyres for being grippy, hard wearing and reasonably priced. Anyone used?
The Superstock1000 guys were doing 1:28 - 1:32 last year at Brands GP on SupercorsasWhere's the sweet-spot for wear Vs grip - be it treaded or slicks? Stef, the tyre guy at most NL days swears by continental tyres for being grippy, hard wearing and reasonably priced. Anyone used?
mckeann said:
I use supercorsa's. Run them at 33 front and 26 rear (hot) and put them on a dry track. You can't expect any track tyre to be very good in the damp.
The trackday slick that Pirelli sell will last for ages but I found it let go without warning and I know lots of other people who hated it. Nobody I know has ever worn one out before they replaced it for something else.
wow I was a fair bit out then - I was running 27 front, 30 rear (hot).The trackday slick that Pirelli sell will last for ages but I found it let go without warning and I know lots of other people who hated it. Nobody I know has ever worn one out before they replaced it for something else.
I've not heard of running a front as high as that hot but will give it a go on the next dry day. How many days do you get out of a front / rear SC, at somewhere in the UK on a dry day Vs somewhere like Jerez / Almeria etc?
Thanks
Sebo said:
Thanks - I wasn't suggesting that the tyres were crap, more a case that as they were new and it was a damp day, I didn't have allot of confidence. Also that they weren't cheap and if there was something else out there that performed similarly for less cash, I'd be interested
Dunlop D211 or 212s are lasting me twice as long as a SuperCorsa and are cheaper too with similar grip levels at my level. snorky782 said:
Sebo said:
Thanks - I wasn't suggesting that the tyres were crap, more a case that as they were new and it was a damp day, I didn't have allot of confidence. Also that they weren't cheap and if there was something else out there that performed similarly for less cash, I'd be interested
Dunlop D211 or 212s are lasting me twice as long as a SuperCorsa and are cheaper too with similar grip levels at my level. 
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