the bb trackday thread.

[Tim85]

My phone cameras really gone to ste recently. I dunno if it's baby spit or just messed up settings. The videos are clear but pictures look like I'm in fog.

[mckeann]

Fastest lap of 1.49.6

https://vimeo.com/123772440

And a close call with someone dawdling on the back straight

https://vimeo.com/123772438

[LoonR1]

mckeann said:

Fastest lap of 1.49.6

https://vimeo.com/123772440

And a close call with someone dawdling on the back straight

https://vimeo.com/123772438

Kin hell and far kin ell!

Was that guy dawdling or was he riding fast in his mind?

[hebegb]

Great going Neil - glad you had good trip and got the job done !

[mckeann]

the dawdler said he had ran out of brake pads. I'm not really sure why that means he can only do 50mph on the racing line, but it gave me a fair fright

[Yazza54]

what a bellend

[LoonR1]

mckeann said:

the dawdler said he had ran out of brake pads. I'm not really sure why that means he can only do 50mph on the racing line, but it gave me a fair fright

What a tt and anyone who can ride a bike knows you can survive faded pads easy enough with the throttle better than he did.

[mckeann]

the dawdler was actually a very fast kid on a 600 in all the other sessions, not sure what he was thinking there though.

When you come out of that right hander, you are hard on the throttle and the track goes over a crest and drops away, which means the front end is very light, and you need to sweep right, before you can steer to the left. Maybe he thought he was out of the way, i dont know, he didnt seem that bothered.

[LoonR1]

mckeann said:

the dawdler was actually a very fast kid on a 600 in all the other sessions, not sure what he was thinking there though.

When you come out of that right hander, you are hard on the throttle and the track goes over a crest and drops away, which means the front end is very light, and you need to sweep right, before you can steer to the left. Maybe he thought he was out of the way, i dont know, he didnt seem that bothered.

Then there's no excuse at all for what he was doing. He looked like a novice amd his lifesaver after you buzzed him didn't inspire confidence either.

[moanthebairns]

What's the etiquette then.

I had a problem with my brakes on Sunday.

I was short shifting and off line when I could but i was at 2/3 rds pace till I got back to the pits with loads of notice I was coming in and taking a wide line on the last corner clearly indicating I was coming in.

Should I pull over? Or is this right?

[curlie467]

moanthebairns said:

Is anyone doing Anglesey

Looks good tim

I am going to book the Monday. A friend of mine is going down for both days on his Triumph and I think hebegb is there too isn't he?

[mckeann]

moanthebairns said:

What's the etiquette then.

I had a problem with my brakes on Sunday.

I was short shifting and off line when I could but i was at 2/3 rds pace till I got back to the pits with loads of notice I was coming in and taking a wide line on the last corner clearly indicating I was coming in.

Should I pull over? Or is this right?

Offline is the way ahead. Trouble is when there are blind crests that restrict vision (like there and most of KH)

I think he was probably unaware that where he was, was online for a quick thou. On a 600 you don't need to go that far over.

Also, speed differential is the biggy. If he was going faster, then it wouldn't be such an issue. He could easily have been doing 90mph there and still have plenty of room to stop at the end even with just the back brake

[bass gt3]

mckeann said:

moanthebairns said:

What's the etiquette then.

I had a problem with my brakes on Sunday.

I was short shifting and off line when I could but i was at 2/3 rds pace till I got back to the pits with loads of notice I was coming in and taking a wide line on the last corner clearly indicating I was coming in.

Should I pull over? Or is this right?

Offline is the way ahead. Trouble is when there are blind crests that restrict vision (like there and most of KH)

I think he was probably unaware that where he was, was online for a quick thou. On a 600 you don't need to go that far over.

Also, speed differential is the biggy. If he was going faster, then it wouldn't be such an issue. He could easily have been doing 90mph there and still have plenty of room to stop at the end even with just the back brake

Also indicate with the left hand that you have a problem and are cruising back.
Keep a look behind you before corners to make sure anyone coming upon you has seen your indication.
But stay offline as much as possible and maintain your line, DON'T wander around or across the track

[LoonR1]

mckeann said:

Offline is the way ahead. Trouble is when there are blind crests that restrict vision (like there and most of KH)

I think he was probably unaware that where he was, was online for a quick thou. On a 600 you don't need to go that far over.

Also, speed differential is the biggy. If he was going faster, then it wouldn't be such an issue. He could easily have been doing 90mph there and still have plenty of room to stop at the end even with just the back brake

Tang last bit is what I meant about using the throttle to get out of the way. You don't need to trundle along at 50 on a straight as there loads of time to scrub speed even without a front brake

[moanthebairns]

Suppose depends on the track.

Can someone explain this while I'm here.

I went out session one behind the safety car thing and all of a sudden my lever is pulling all the way to my bars.

I come in adjust then out on track it's solid with no feel.

I MucK about with range for a while

Behind the pace car it's solid with no feel once I get a few laps the lever has they play I'm looking for with plenty of bite.

It's race only pads I'm using and it was brand new brake discs with fresh seals that were rebuilt a track day ago.

Is this just a case of the pads need heat in them to work and behind the car I couldn't get the heat into them.

Or should I bleed the system incase there is air or the fluid is off.

[moanthebairns]

bass gt3 said:

mckeann said:

moanthebairns said:

What's the etiquette then.

I had a problem with my brakes on Sunday.

I was short shifting and off line when I could but i was at 2/3 rds pace till I got back to the pits with loads of notice I was coming in and taking a wide line on the last corner clearly indicating I was coming in.

Should I pull over? Or is this right?

Offline is the way ahead. Trouble is when there are blind crests that restrict vision (like there and most of KH)

I think he was probably unaware that where he was, was online for a quick thou. On a 600 you don't need to go that far over.

Also, speed differential is the biggy. If he was going faster, then it wouldn't be such an issue. He could easily have been doing 90mph there and still have plenty of room to stop at the end even with just the back brake

Also indicate with the left hand that you have a problem and are cruising back.
Keep a look behind you before corners to make sure anyone coming upon you has seen your indication.
But stay offline as much as possible and maintain your line, DON'T wander around or across the track

I had the hand up coming in but I'll do that all way round in future.

I'm still doing a decent corner speed as I don't need brakes for that.

[Tim85]

scary. wouldnt want to think about clipping someone at that speed.

What do you guys think about this video.

I know spike edwards is a very fast well respected guy but he seems to have a problem with the lad on the 600 infront.

its obvious the lad has some riding skills that can be admired.

would you be annoyed? does it have a place on a trackday?

personally i think its bloody impressive and it wouldnt effect me anyway as id never see him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeTxMCQBqsA

[Yazza54]

Dunno what the problem is. He's having fun

[LoonR1]

Tim85 said:

scary. wouldnt want to think about clipping someone at that speed.

What do you guys think about this video.

I know spike edwards is a very fast well respected guy but he seems to have a problem with the lad on the 600 infront.

its obvious the lad has some riding skills that can be admired.

would you be annoyed? does it have a place on a trackday?

personally i think its bloody impressive and it wouldnt effect me anyway as id never see him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeTxMCQBqsA

Spikes not flat out, but is pushing on a bit. His problem is around 1 min where the lad locks up right in front of him, when Spike is going to carry a lot more corner speed and has to hit the brakes a bit harder because of it. Nothing to worry about, but like he says locking your rear is only going to kill the tyre.

[nutcase]

mckeann said:

Fastest lap of 1.49.6

https://vimeo.com/123772440

And a close call with someone dawdling on the back straight

https://vimeo.com/123772438

Great riding, very smooth!