Pay to ride into central London

[RemyMartin]

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news--general-...

Seems legit......

Does it bks, pay the same as vans and cars. Well I guess those that have to go there will have a newer bike. Better get my arse to my old dutch pancake house in Holborn soon!

[shielsy]

"The daily toll will be introduced in the Capital on September 7, 2020"

[Fleegle]

I wonder how many 2008 bikes share the same engine as 2006 bikes?

[Fleegle]

To name a few..

Fazer 600
ZX6
CBR600
VFR800

and the list could go on...


One has to ask is it really about emissions?? Or cold hard revenue?

[Deranged Granny]

Bike manufacturers will be happy!

[shielsy]

Triumph Sprint/Speed 1050... Although I have a feeling they added a different cat to the Sprint around 07. Not sure on the Speed.

[moanthebairns]

shielsy said:

Triumph Sprint/Speed 1050... Although I have a feeling they added a different cat to the Sprint around 07. Not sure on the Speed.

STREET, DAYTONA

[S6OOH]

It's ental - the biggest polluters in London are the buses and archaic taxis!

[Andy XRV]

Looks like it's time to part with my 2004 commuter before it's value crashes. Shame because any 2007+ bike is going to be more attractive to Mr Criminal which is why I bought an older bike in the first place.

[Tribal Chestnut]

Many people will take pleasure in riding through with an obscured/dirty plate and breaking yet another daft law/avoiding yet another daft tax, the scoundrels.

[sjtscott]

This one has dismayed me.. quite how you can charge a bike the same price as a car irrespective. But in real terms its going to reduce/exclude quite a number of people even if it is 5 years from now from being able to use powered two wheels to beat the traffic into central london.
In real terms of overall vehicle %s just considering all bikes used in town isn't or can't be that large. And I really can't see the actual saving to the environment/benefit to air quality excluding anything older than July 2007 from being ridden in central given that % of overall vehicle numbers.
This one directly will affect me in 5 years in that my current bike is one year too old and althought I'm in the process of replacing it sadly its replacement is unlikely to be anything meeting the new requirements as I'm going for a cheap and cheerful commuter (still large cc) given how I use a bike currently.

I guess it just means I'll be forced to change my bike before next 5 years is up or leave london or hope the next mayor gets rid of it

Edited by sjtscott on Friday 27th March 15:20

[fergus]

Meanwhile the black cabs and buses will be given years to "phase in" due to pressures from cabbies who mostly don't seem to GAF about any other road user/anything that doesn't directly affect them) and unions....

[Ballon]

Being a cynic I'd say its revenue. Though I'd say there will be a fair bit of capital expenditure needed to put rear facing cameras throughout the congestion zone. If they'd had these before we would have been paying years ago.

Anyway I shall hopefully be retired by then

[Dave Hedgehog]

you can thank the EU for this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2625...

[Pothole]

S6OOH said:

It's ental - the biggest polluters in London are the buses and archaic taxis!

It's mental that you go off half cocked at the bike media's equivalent of the Daily Express.

"TfL Buses

As part of the ULEZ, we are taking extra steps to reduce emissions from our buses and to increase the number of zero emission capable vehicles.

By 2020, all double deck TfL buses operating in central London will be hybrid and all single deck buses will be zero emission (at point of use). This means a substantial number of double deck buses operating in inner London will be hybrid, as will many in outer London
We will progressively increase the number of these buses. From 2020 only buses of this type will be allowed to operate on routes in the ULEZ
Taxis and Private Hire Vehicles (eg minicabs)

Following the consultation feedback, and in light of new funds announced by the Government, we will undertake further engagement with the taxi and private hire trade before finalising plans to change the licensing requirements for these vehicles. ‎The final package of measures is expected to be confirmed in the summer.

In the meantime, the Mayor has confirmed Private Hire Vehicles will need to meet the ULEZ standards."

From here

Visordown is almost as bad as MCN for sensationalising this kind of thing.

[CoolHands]

Pothole said:

By 2020, all double deck TfL buses operating in central London will be hybrid and all single deck buses will be zero emission (at point of use). This means a substantial number of double deck buses operating in inner London will be hybrid, as will many in outer London

Nicely worded. So since central london is actually a small area, (28 km2 for 'Central' london, or 319km2 for 'Inner' london [notice they interchange the terms; very scientific] as opposed to 1,572 km2 for Greater London! lol) the rest of us are going to have to keep breathing the tonnes of smelly dirty st I see being chucked out of buses on my way to work every day for many many years to come.

great

[Tribal Chestnut]

Buses are awful, awful vehicles.

[LoonR1]

I thought all you cockernee types were multi-billionaires who laughed at us impoverished Northerners. Surely you can afford bikes that are newer than 13 years old?

[Tribal Chestnut]

LoonR1 said:

I thought all you cockernee types were multi-billionaires who laughed at us impoverished Northerners. Surely you can afford bikes that are newer than 13 years old?

We are, but then we admire you northern monkeys sooo much we try to emulate your tightness.

[RumpleFugly]

Thankfully historic class tax vehicles will be exempt so my buddies and I will be able to pollute at our leisure on our old nails.

And if the date keeps rolling on, it'll only be bikes from 1979-2007 that are banned, with the gap closing every year...

Seems a bit self defeating!