Static Sag v Rider Sag

Static Sag v Rider Sag

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bass gt3

10,194 posts

233 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Mr OCD said:
Ok fella ... Will do, I must resist fiddling any further lol.

Comp screws 1/2 turn for track?

Sounds like fun ... But like you say it's simple once you've worked the basics out eh? winkbiggrin
Try half a turn but keep an eye on your tell tale. If you've still got the bump stops fitted, it shouldn't go any lower than about 15mm from the bottom of the fork slider.
But resist the urge to make the bike super stiff. Good traction comes from allowing the suspension to work. So a bit of shimmy is ok rather than ultra stable and controlled but with poor traction.

Mr OCD

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6,388 posts

211 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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bass gt3 said:
Try half a turn but keep an eye on your tell tale. If you've still got the bump stops fitted, it shouldn't go any lower than about 15mm from the bottom of the fork slider.
But resist the urge to make the bike super stiff. Good traction comes from allowing the suspension to work. So a bit of shimmy is ok rather than ultra stable and controlled but with poor traction.
Great minds think alike biggrin ...

Agreed, I've learnt the error of my ways making a bike overly stiff ... I'm going to keep it controlled and refined to let the suspension work properly within its designed range.

bass gt3

10,194 posts

233 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Mr OCD said:
bass gt3 said:
Try half a turn but keep an eye on your tell tale. If you've still got the bump stops fitted, it shouldn't go any lower than about 15mm from the bottom of the fork slider.
But resist the urge to make the bike super stiff. Good traction comes from allowing the suspension to work. So a bit of shimmy is ok rather than ultra stable and controlled but with poor traction.
Great minds think alike biggrin ...

Agreed, I've learnt the error of my ways making a bike overly stiff ... I'm going to keep it controlled and refined to let the suspension work properly within its designed range.
Amazing what can be achieved with the standard suspension hey wink


Mr OCD

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Thursday 9th April 2015
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bass gt3 said:
Amazing what can be achieved with the standard suspension hey wink
Indeed ... I'm gonna bugger it all up in a week or so when my new shock turns up!

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bass gt3

10,194 posts

233 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Mr OCD said:
Indeed ... I'm gonna bugger it all up in a week or so when my new shock turns up!

biggrin lol
What are you getting?

Mr OCD

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Thursday 9th April 2015
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bass gt3 said:
What are you getting?
I've got the Showa twin tube shock from the 2012 > blade coming...

It's a good upgrade over the 08-11 shock but obviously still not as good as an aftermarket ohlins, etc. But I am led to believe it uses similar technology to the Ohlins TTX?

Either way it was a bargain buy so couldn't say no... biggrin

bass gt3

10,194 posts

233 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Mr OCD said:
bass gt3 said:
What are you getting?
I've got the Showa twin tube shock from the 2012 > blade coming...

It's a good upgrade over the 08-11 shock but obviously still not as good as an aftermarket ohlins, etc. But I am led to believe it uses similar technology to the Ohlins TTX?

Either way it was a bargain buy so couldn't say no... biggrin
Ah ok. Can't say I'm familiar so won't proffer an opinion smile
Maybe get it checked over, refreshed with good quality (Fuchs) oil before you fit it.

Mr OCD

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Thursday 9th April 2015
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bass gt3 said:
Ah ok. Can't say I'm familiar so won't proffer an opinion smile
Maybe get it checked over, refreshed with good quality (Fuchs) oil before you fit it.
That's the thing I was going to send it off for a rebuild but seeing as the places that I was considering can't even setup suspension properly I've no idea where to send it ... biggrin lol

bass gt3

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233 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Mr OCD said:
That's the thing I was going to send it off for a rebuild but seeing as the places that I was considering can't even setup suspension properly I've no idea where to send it ... biggrin lol
Fair point i suppose biggrin

Mr OCD

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Thursday 9th April 2015
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bass gt3 said:
Fair point i suppose biggrin
My investigations continue ... biggrin

Mr OCD

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Thursday 16th April 2015
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Looks like I've learnt well... Just setup a mates brand new GSXR600 and he is gob smacked how much better the bike is ... He was a nay sayer as well and wouldn't believe it would make any difference!

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bass gt3

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Thursday 16th April 2015
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Mr OCD said:
Looks like I've learnt well... Just setup a mates brand new GSXR600 and he is gob smacked how much better the bike is ... He was a nay sayer as well and wouldn't believe it would make any difference!

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Told you so tongue out
Amazing what you can achieve with a bit of understanding of the basics hey wink
I've just discovered why my RSV4 forks always felt so shyte.. 110mm oil height so bugger all air gap eekeek
So I think it's time for a full strip and check over.


Edited by bass gt3 on Thursday 16th April 23:50

Mr OCD

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Friday 17th April 2015
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bass gt3 said:
Told you so tongue out
Amazing what you can achieve with a bit of understanding of the basics hey wink
I've just discovered why my RSV4 forks always felt so shyte.. 110mm oil height so bugger all air gap eekeek
So I think it's time for a full strip and check over.


Edited by bass gt3 on Thursday 16th April 23:50
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Quite fancy doing a suspension work shop course next to learn how to rebuild forks properly...

Mr OCD

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bass gt3

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Friday 17th April 2015
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Mr OCD said:
Depends on how far you want to go.
To do forks and shocks you're going to need a few quids worth in specialist tools. Many cartridges have different lug patterns so you'll need 4 or 5 tube tools and associated fork specific tools, oil height kit, rear shock spring compressor, rear shock length measuring tool. And this isn't considering serious stuff like shock dyno's and nitrogen pressurising kits....

oldninjaron

44 posts

104 months

Wednesday 26th August 2015
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Found this topic enlightening but I would be interested in whether or not approach to setup should be different with vastly different geometry between bikes so I have opened up a new topic to discuss this.