148mph .... with pillion !
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Why do Police spokespersons always say such stupid things about these incidents?
"After sentencing, Sgt Nick Edwards said the speeds Roberts was driving at were for "racetracks not public roads".
"The levels of harm to which Paul Roberts subjected himself, his pillion passenger, the public and my officer are just beyond comprehension," he said."
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"After sentencing, Sgt Nick Edwards said the speeds Roberts was driving at were for "racetracks not public roads".
"The levels of harm to which Paul Roberts subjected himself, his pillion passenger, the public and my officer are just beyond comprehension," he said."
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Vipers said:
Interesting, how do you know there was no sirens, the vid has no sound. I would like to think the skill of the police far exceed that of the average biker.
You say that, but if something unexpected where to happen they still react as quickly as a normal human. They don't have x-ray vision or the ability to see into the future. Yes, some of them may have advanced training, however anyone can get that.
[just thinking out loud]
The biker didn't [accurately] hit 148 though...the police biker did in order to catch up.
The readout hit 127 briefly, but the police biker was accelerating from about 110 mph and closing the gap (so obviously going faster than the biker).
If I ever get done for speeding, I'd rather it was by an accurate [frikkin'] laser, and not the speed recorded by plod trying to catch up
The biker didn't [accurately] hit 148 though...the police biker did in order to catch up.
The readout hit 127 briefly, but the police biker was accelerating from about 110 mph and closing the gap (so obviously going faster than the biker).
If I ever get done for speeding, I'd rather it was by an accurate [frikkin'] laser, and not the speed recorded by plod trying to catch up
Speed in itself not the main problem as he could have legally ridden that fast in Germany. But big difference is that on the Autobahn all the other drivers/riders expect very fast moving vehicles and generally take that into account (so won't pull out without checking). I expect that most people driving at 80 on a UK motorway are not expecting someone to be approaching them at 150. Hence much greater risk.
Difficult to cast the first stone though as have been silly in the past. Can't be many on here that have had fast bikes that haven't strayed too.
Difficult to cast the first stone though as have been silly in the past. Can't be many on here that have had fast bikes that haven't strayed too.
graphene said:
terry tibbs said:
weaving in and out of traffic is the stupid thing not the actual speed
From the article: "weaving in and out of traffic". This should have said: using the lanes correctly whilst pressing-on.The Police should have issued tickets to all those lane 2/3 hoggers and tailgaters. Then they should have thanked the motorcyclist for bringing it to their attention.
It would have been easier at those speeds to split the lanes and a hell of a lot more fun too!
Pothole said:
I can see where the camera speedo reads 148mph but that's the speed the camera bike had to do to catch up, surely? Where's the video of the measured distance/constant speed to calculate from?
I'm betting that apart from possible wind noise it didn't feel that fast on a ZZR14.
I believe there may be a lot of this ^^^I'm betting that apart from possible wind noise it didn't feel that fast on a ZZR14.
Not interested in legality of it, the bit I find interesting is purely from looking at the video when the biker passes the white van/lorry limited to a max of 65?
Do we all believe that biker passed that van at nearly 90 mph, I am not sure I believe those numbers. It looks like the chase vehicle caught up with the biker faster than he caught up with any other traffic on the road by a LONG way.
Like I said legality is not the interest at all but I don't believe that footage shows that biker doing 148 mph.
Would be interesting to see the whole footage and see how many of those white dashes are done per second etc.
The only bike doing 148MPH was the police bike.
When the speedo reads 148 he's obviously gaining hand over fist on the ZZR.
It's the usual police angle, 'I had to do 160mph to catch up with you!'. Yeah, and what's that got to do with the speed I was going?
That aside, the ZZR rider is a nob.
When the speedo reads 148 he's obviously gaining hand over fist on the ZZR.
It's the usual police angle, 'I had to do 160mph to catch up with you!'. Yeah, and what's that got to do with the speed I was going?
That aside, the ZZR rider is a nob.
WaferThinHam said:
You say that, but if something unexpected where to happen they still react as quickly as a normal human. They don't have x-ray vision or the ability to see into the future.
Yes, some of them may have advanced training, however anyone can get that.
They can in theory, but I very much doubt anyone does. I did a bike safe course a few years ago. The police bikers explained that they tried to teach a basic system of observation and bike control in one day, based on the 5 weeks of rider training they had gone through. I think he said it would cost 4 grand to do the equivalent training. You only have to watch them ride to see they are massively advanced in bike control over the average rider. Yes, some of them may have advanced training, however anyone can get that.
Flipatron said:
The only bike doing 148MPH was the police bike.
When the speedo reads 148 he's obviously gaining hand over fist on the ZZR.
It's the usual police angle, 'I had to do 160mph to catch up with you!'. Yeah, and what's that got to do with the speed I was going?
That aside, the ZZR rider is a nob.
+1.When the speedo reads 148 he's obviously gaining hand over fist on the ZZR.
It's the usual police angle, 'I had to do 160mph to catch up with you!'. Yeah, and what's that got to do with the speed I was going?
That aside, the ZZR rider is a nob.
How do the coppers manage to pass that line off? Granted in this case the copper was having to do way over the limit just to keep up. But what if your speeding just over the limit for a short while??
WaferThinHam said:
Vipers said:
Interesting, how do you know there was no sirens, the vid has no sound. I would like to think the skill of the police far exceed that of the average biker.
You say that, but if something unexpected where to happen they still react as quickly as a normal human. They don't have x-ray vision or the ability to see into the future. Yes, some of them may have advanced training, however anyone can get that.
Yarders91 said:
Flipatron said:
The only bike doing 148MPH was the police bike.
When the speedo reads 148 he's obviously gaining hand over fist on the ZZR.
It's the usual police angle, 'I had to do 160mph to catch up with you!'. Yeah, and what's that got to do with the speed I was going?
That aside, the ZZR rider is a nob.
+1.When the speedo reads 148 he's obviously gaining hand over fist on the ZZR.
It's the usual police angle, 'I had to do 160mph to catch up with you!'. Yeah, and what's that got to do with the speed I was going?
That aside, the ZZR rider is a nob.
How do the coppers manage to pass that line off? Granted in this case the copper was having to do way over the limit just to keep up. But what if your speeding just over the limit for a short while??
The M11 is a nice motorway, good surface, very few junctions and most traffic stays in lane with great visibility. Guy was still a knob but it's not the speed which was bad, the lane changing did for him. I've done similar speed and no kittens died, no birds were hit and I was back at 80ish in a few seconds. The press/courts don't realise how quickly a ZZR1400 or Hayabusa (etc) can go from 80ish to 140ish and back.
Flipatron said:
The only bike doing 148MPH was the police bike.
When the speedo reads 148 he's obviously gaining hand over fist on the ZZR.
It's the usual police angle, 'I had to do 160mph to catch up with you!'. Yeah, and what's that got to do with the speed I was going?
That aside, the ZZR rider is a nob.
Exactly, I had the same thing the one and only time I got caught in the UK. When the speedo reads 148 he's obviously gaining hand over fist on the ZZR.
It's the usual police angle, 'I had to do 160mph to catch up with you!'. Yeah, and what's that got to do with the speed I was going?
That aside, the ZZR rider is a nob.
In court, doing my own defence for speeding, I stated that while I absolutely agreed that I was speeding, that IMO it was far less than the Police stated and that they had hit those speeds (in a plainclothes car) to catch me. The Magistrate asked me what speed I was doing and I told him that it was basically impossible to say as I was paying attention to the road, not the clocks.
He then said that it was true, there was no time to look down, focus, read, return to looking ahead on the road, while being safe. Minimal fine and minimum 3 points despite being on video allegedly at 95 in a 40.
In another unrelated case I had, the Magistrates did a similar thing, apparently giving me an opportunity to deny everything, but I only took part and instead of wildly grabbing all opportunities to deny and minimalist my culpability, I several times said obvious truths that were not 100%in my favour. Both times I strongly believe that they gave me a lot more credibility for my apparent honesty in this respect and got off very lightly.
Plod love it. It can't be that dangerous or they wouldn't play catch up. No one hears sirens at that speed, they are too busy w
king or face fking on Twitter. Plod love it and revel in it. The only crime was getting caught, and I hope we all get off that one. Speed isn't a killer, inattention and carelessness is.
king or face fking on Twitter. Plod love it and revel in it. The only crime was getting caught, and I hope we all get off that one. Speed isn't a killer, inattention and carelessness is.Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff